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Softkinetic 3D time-of-flight camera teardown
« on: June 02, 2013, 10:14:22 am »
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Re: Softkinetic 3D time-of-flight camera teardown
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2013, 01:21:20 pm »
Great Video Mike, (as always)

You mentioned and showed an MS Kinect. Did you have a tear down video of that also?
I didn't find one on your YouTube channel.

Re. the Kniect, what do you think about moving the projector and sensor closer together to get higher resolution at a shorter distance?
After post re-calibration of course.

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Re: Softkinetic 3D time-of-flight camera teardown
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2013, 03:32:40 pm »
Great Video Mike, (as always)

You mentioned and showed an MS Kinect. Did you have a tear down video of that also?
I didn't find one on your YouTube channel.
No - I took one apart ages ago & assumed the insides have been well covered by others since
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Re. the Kniect, what do you think about moving the projector and sensor closer together to get higher resolution at a shorter distance?
After post re-calibration of course.
Don't know enough about the optics - I suspect you'd need a different pattern generator. I think people have made some add-on optics to adjust the range.
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Re: Softkinetic 3D time-of-flight camera teardown
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2013, 03:54:18 pm »
Re. the Kniect, what do you think about moving the projector and sensor closer together to get higher resolution at a shorter distance?
After post re-calibration of course.

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Re: Softkinetic 3D time-of-flight camera teardown
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2013, 04:55:29 pm »
Yes, interesting stuff as usual. I noticed one thing that made me jump to pause the video. The one RAM chip I have been looking for for a couple of years is on that back board! the ESMT 12L16161-5 memory chip. Just curious Mike, is there any chance you might have a couple of those in other decommissioned equipment lying around?
 

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Re: Softkinetic 3D time-of-flight camera teardown
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2013, 05:02:55 pm »
Confidence map on this product looks really bad compared to upcoming Kinect 2
http://youtu.be/Hi5kMNfgDS4?t=1m22s

Not only Kinect 2 is supposed to have 720p res, it also has bigger dynamic range (not to mention M$ hiring Stanford grads doing magic in software).
Microsoft actually bought out three big companies doing ToF before 2010 and still couldnt make it work for the original Kinect release date. They spend >1 Billion dollars on this tech :o +3 years polishing it behind closed doors.

Other interesting products doing similar things include
Duo:
http://duo3d.com/
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/codelabs/duo-the-worlds-first-diy-3d-sensor

2x PS3 eyetoy + computing disparity inside computer.

Leap:
https://www.leapmotion.com/

Just a guess: single camera + array of illuminating IR leds. 3D reconstruction from series of pictures illuminated from different angles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photometric_stereo
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Re: Softkinetic 3D time-of-flight camera teardown
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2013, 06:31:31 pm »
Yes, interesting stuff as usual. I noticed one thing that made me jump to pause the video. The one RAM chip I have been looking for for a couple of years is on that back board! the ESMT 12L16161-5 memory chip. Just curious Mike, is there any chance you might have a couple of those in other decommissioned equipment lying around?

It is just a vanilla SDRAM chip. They are standardized per JEDEC. The only criteria you need to worry about is replacing it with one of the same package, the same bus width, and addressing. In this case the dram is 16 bits wide, 512K words and 2 banks.
However the -5 denotes it is rated for 200mhz which is unusual.
If it's clocked at 166 you could use this http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/W9816G6IH-6/W9816G6IH-6-ND/2815940
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Re: Softkinetic 3D time-of-flight camera teardown
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2013, 07:10:07 pm »
Yes, interesting stuff as usual. I noticed one thing that made me jump to pause the video. The one RAM chip I have been looking for for a couple of years is on that back board! the ESMT 12L16161-5 memory chip. Just curious Mike, is there any chance you might have a couple of those in other decommissioned equipment lying around?
no, but I'm sure it's an equivalent of many other SDRAM chips
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