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TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« on: April 26, 2018, 10:10:38 am »



So what do you think about the new TS 200 ?
 
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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2018, 11:58:30 am »
Tip is too long.
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2018, 12:17:25 pm »
I’ll let you know when I can find it anywhere ......
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2018, 01:57:23 pm »
It isn't listed on Mini's website yet.

http://www.miniware.com.cn/index.html
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2018, 02:17:15 pm »
If they were going to improve the ergonomics, they should have shortened the grip to tip distance among other things. They should have a better power connector, a burn resistant silicone cable and a power supply that looks like a traditional bench station.

Also, the tips should be priced lower. They're more expensive than some of the brand name cartridges tips.
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2018, 02:23:32 pm »
The tip to grip looks ok to me. I take it this is a high output model for soldering lugnuts and the like at the top or radio towers and the bottom of the ocean. looks a little janky to trust for that.

OTOH, this looks like just the thing for the quadcopter and rc toy crowd. This segment of the population defacto likes techie toys and has money to burn.

Every i-Macguyver needs one of these to carry around with their Leatherman Juice and Arduino Nano pants. They need to add a pocket clip and asbestos pocket protector.

Marco Reps has a topic for a new video.

*There is a legit need for this,  but that isnt where they plan to make the their money. They are obviously going for mass appeal and previous TS purchaser, "collect 'em all" strategy.
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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2018, 02:35:33 pm »
If they were going make a new model, they should have added more useful improvements and changes. It's basically the same as the TS100 but with a round grip.
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2018, 02:47:34 pm »
Grip looks improved, the roundness being part of it, and it looks a little bigger. It is still an odd shape to fit in a proper stand. I find it odd this aspect is completely ignored. I suppose the esthetics are more important. Seems like that is part of the success of the original. Looks cool, firmware upgrageable, OLED display. And thusly, the perfect lightsaber is constructed.
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2018, 03:07:30 pm »
It is kind of funny looking. If someone showed me the disassembled parts in the picture, I'd have to guess. "Well I'm not sure, but whatever it is, it's the stereo model."  :-DD

 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2018, 08:36:39 pm »
Not sure I like the look of the, what appears to be a 3.5mm plug, on the back of the element. The existing TS100 copper contacts are good and have high contact pressure.
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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2018, 08:54:16 pm »
Not sure I like the look of the, what appears to be a 3.5mm plug, on the back of the element.

I'd say that is FUD. Weller uses a similar solution in their WXMP handle and it works just fine. Note how this solution has much more meat that sits within the handle than just the connector, presumably for support.
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2018, 03:54:26 am »
The photos posted here are the same on a page in the GitHub firmware thread, scroll down as it’s briefly discussed.

https://github.com/Ralim/ts100/issues/24
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2018, 06:11:04 am »
If they were going to improve the ergonomics, they should have shortened the grip to tip distance among other things. They should have a better power connector, a burn resistant silicone cable and a power supply that looks like a traditional bench station.

Also, the tips should be priced lower. They're more expensive than some of the brand name cartridges tips.

This tip looks even more expensive to produce than the last. Tight tolerances and a lot of material to machine.
There is a reason most manufacturers make the tip as simple as possible.

It does look quite similar to the WXMP tip as mentioned though (~$25/ea).
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2018, 12:00:44 am »


Just to be clear, this is a video by Marco Reps (baltersice). Just thought I'd share it.
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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2018, 12:04:51 am »
I am very excited about it, transitioned to USB-C on all my devices and accessories now. The audio jack is easy and reliable, quick to change. But how much current can it handle?

The iron just needs to get power delivery negotiation right and support 20V (or 5V or 12V, i.e. profile 1-4).
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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2018, 04:04:06 am »
I am very excited about it, transitioned to USB-C on all my devices and accessories now. The audio jack is easy and reliable, quick to change. But how much current can it handle?

The iron just needs to get power delivery negotiation right and support 20V (or 5V or 12V, i.e. profile 1-4).

Very cool, thanks for the video link, I forwarded it to the open source firmware leader, in case he hasn’t seen it.
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2018, 06:37:50 am »
Cool toy!  8)

However, I wish they'd have done a complete bench station first before upgrading the TS100. It really doesn't doesn't do anything more than the TS100 which most have already bought.
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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2018, 07:50:25 am »
Cool toy!  8)

However, I wish they'd have done a complete bench station first before upgrading the TS100. It really doesn't doesn't do anything more than the TS100 which most have already bought.

I don’t believe “bench stations” are this companies goal. The TS100 has been out for awhile now, not sure if they have any other products at all. Portable, affordable, though I have not yet the need to get into anything USB-C, hopefully they thought out the AC Power supplies for it. His video seems to indicate the newer version may have better heat delivery at a lower voltage, though I found it a bit confusing. Nice to have choices, though I’m totally happy with my TS100, made a cable adapter so it runs off of 18.5/20v Dewalt Lithium drill batteries, not capable of running a bench station. :)
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2018, 07:58:29 am »
As I mentioned above, most people who want a portable iron, probably already bought the TS100. Also, the TS80 probably isn't going to be a smash like TS100 because it's not a novelty anymore. If they want to expand their market they should make a bench station.
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2018, 08:09:26 am »
As I mentioned above, most people who want a portable iron, probably already bought the TS100. Also, the TS80 probably isn't going to be a smash like TS100 because it's not a novelty anymore. If they want to expand their market they should make a bench station.

Yes, you mentioned that, and I won’t repeat my response.
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2018, 08:52:21 am »
Their LCR Tweezer-Tester is coming soon  ;)
But please,shshshshshshs.... I didn't told you nothing  ;)
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2018, 07:16:14 pm »
Their LCR Tweezer-Tester is coming soon  ;)
But please,shshshshshshs.... I didn't told you nothing  ;)

Now my U1733C is feeling insecure  ;D
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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2018, 10:40:33 pm »
As I mentioned above, most people who want a portable iron, probably already bought the TS100. Also, the TS80 probably isn't going to be a smash like TS100 because it's not a novelty anymore. If they want to expand their market they should make a bench station.

a portable, multi channel with good power delivery (2x 75W) would be great for both standard and micro tips (maybe some quality hot tweezers at an affordable price? :) ), just like the T12 clones with a power brick.

 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2018, 03:02:25 am »
Hey guys !!!
What about this ?!?!?

Gotta have cheap tips. I think that uses expensive Weller tips. Also the iron PCB is like $60+ shipping and I don't believe it comes with an enclosure.

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« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2018, 05:07:50 am »
Gotta have cheap tips. I think that uses expensive Weller tips. Also the iron PCB is like $60+ shipping and I don't believe it comes with an enclosure.

I hope,i wish & i dream that this beauty will come with the same enclosure like in this pic
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2018, 09:23:28 pm »
This looks perfect. Sadly, not USB3.
I guess we will have to 3D-print for now. Also this one runs on 12V, so is more universal, eg. running on car battery.
Also is lower power than TS100 (40W vs 65W). TS100 is only 17W @12V, 40W @19V.
 

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« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2018, 08:38:19 pm »


Not impressed. Limited what you can do with 18W, it seems to rely on the heat capacity of the new tip.
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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2018, 02:05:53 am »
I’m impressed with the length of that dudes NAILS!
 

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I’m impressed with the length of that dudes NAILS!

Did you just assume this person's gender?!
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« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2018, 02:34:16 am »
I’m impressed with the length of that dudes NAILS!

Did you just assume this person's gender?!

NO. I watched the video. When the camera tilts up! If it’s a woman, then I’d be super impressed with her BICEPS!
 

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I’m impressed with the length of that dudes NAILS!

Did you just assume this person's gender?!

NO. I watched the video. When the camera tilts up! If it’s a woman, then I’d be super impressed with her BICEPS!

It's 2018, you never know!
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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2018, 04:03:48 am »
Gotta have cheap tips. I think that uses expensive Weller tips. Also the iron PCB is like $60+ shipping and I don't believe it comes with an enclosure.

I hope,i wish & i dream that this beauty will come with the same enclosure like in this pic

That’s one of the sexiest things I’ve seen in a while, and I do watch Hollywood movies and porn regularly (not ashamed to admit it).
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2018, 04:17:20 am »
It's 2018, you never know!

Could wear a frock and nail varnish like Glassringer, in her videos.
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2018, 08:23:06 pm »


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I think you can't stand so much style, you jealous :-DD
Many Asian people have long nails but not in every finger, i think that's to help them on their work to facilitate something or to protect. If you see some chinesse videos you will notice that :)
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2018, 01:31:33 pm »
Uhhmm  ;)
Some very intersting details are emerged from the deep of sea.
 
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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2018, 02:09:38 pm »


Not impressed. Limited what you can do with 18W, it seems to rely on the heat capacity of the new tip.

That'a actually quite impressive considering it's a 18W iron.
My JBC Nano (14W) doesn't work at all (with a 12 gauge tinned ultra soft silicone wire) at 350C set temperature, SAC305 solder.
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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2018, 02:14:12 pm »
FYI, I have a TS80 on order.
Hadn't heard about the TS200.
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2018, 11:14:11 pm »
FYI, I have a TS80 on order.
Hadn't heard about the TS200.

It's the same. It appears to have been renamed.

https://youtu.be/83STpUXHilk?t=4m40s
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2018, 08:56:02 am »
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Many Asian people have long nails but not in every finger, i think that's to help them on their work to facilitate something or to protect. If you see some chinesse videos you will notice that :)
i don't know if this is true or not, but I've heard Rossman say something about this work not being for people with no fingernails. Me, I keep a brass tube on my bench with the end shaped like a fingernail.

I see the long pinky nail on Vietnamese men, in particular. I figured it is more for style. Or for snorting something.

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WHY THESE DIRTY AND SMELLY NAILS

Really? I am struck by how clean they are. Do you think long nails on a woman are dirty and smelly? And yet God knows what they look like under the paint.

This makes me wonder; we evolved nails for a reason. I'm picturing early man waiting for his nails to grow out to finish making a tool, lol. 
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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2018, 01:32:46 pm »
Nails are good tools! Setting jumpers, dipswitches and removing boogers from all the flux smoke.  :box:
 

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Re: TS 200 Soldering Iron (Type-C)
« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2018, 10:56:48 am »


Quite capable considering the sub-20W it draws. I wonder what could be achieved if they had made this with USB-PD support.
 


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