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Offline jujunTopic starter

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TEM mode coaxial ceramic resonators, how to use them ?
« on: May 30, 2018, 12:37:24 pm »
Hello,

I juste discovered that TEM mode coaxial ceramic resonators exists, and I didnt find a lot of information on them.

Where can I find information on them ?
Did you already used them in a design ?

Thank your for your help :)

J

 

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Re: TEM mode coaxial ceramic resonators, how to use them ?
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2018, 07:06:15 am »
Arent these just bits of coax cut to size (to be crude, ofcourse they will be optimized to give reliable frequency behavior etc), which you can then use as a classic transmission-line stub/short/etc?

Pretty much the same as your classic "Voodoo RF black magic" microstrip filters, just with better shielding.
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Re: TEM mode coaxial ceramic resonators, how to use them ?
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2018, 09:02:30 am »
I think I've seen these in (older?) mobile phones as duplex filters. Here's a bit information: http://www.exxelia.com/uploads/PDF/epsilon-90-1-4-v1.pdf
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Re: TEM mode coaxial ceramic resonators, how to use them ?
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2018, 01:44:51 pm »
Thank you :)

So I can see it like an industrial version of a coax stub.

A kind of SMD coax stub :D
 

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Re: TEM mode coaxial ceramic resonators, how to use them ?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2018, 01:48:47 pm »
The advantage over a typical microstrip or coax cable stub is that the ceramic has a much higher dielectric constant for the insulation between conductors. This lets one make it much physically smaller for a given resonant frequency.

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Re: TEM mode coaxial ceramic resonators, how to use them ?
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2018, 02:32:08 pm »
https://www.minicircuits.com/WebStore/dashboard.html?model=CBP-1034C%2B

i used that one in the past. Really low insertion loss in the pass band, but what the datasheet doesn't show are the higher harmonic modes that start to appear above 2 or so GHz.

I've seen such resonators with loosely coupled varactors in VCOs of old Nokia mobile phones in the 70cm band. I guess they were trying to achieve superb phase noise far out from the carrier.
 
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