Author Topic: Troll the NATO with some Homemade Jaffs? (Read 2997 times)

Lord of nothing · « **on:** October 08, 2018, 12:13:07 am »

Here its legal to lett Balloons fly with a Payload <500gram.
So what would happen if I build some Radar Collector and or some Jaffs and let them fly?
How does it would look on the Primary Radar?

Doogs · « **Reply #1 on:** October 08, 2018, 12:21:17 am »

Seems you would be messing more with commercial traffic rather than anything military as I'm pretty sure they would recognize anything like that as unworthy of their interest. It would also be pretty irresponsible and juvenile.

Lord of nothing · « **Reply #2 on:** October 08, 2018, 12:24:51 am »

Its not illegal to lett a balloon fly who fit into the max Wight.

And a passive Radar Reflector is who the name say just passive and dont transmit anything so it dont fall under many laws. We have there many Boarders like SK, CZ/ SI, IT where I can be on the right side of the boarder.

Lord of nothing · « **Reply #3 on:** October 08, 2018, 12:55:16 am »

Mr. Chinese you Talking about some illegal activitis just for that you can end in Jail.

Airplanes do not need GPS the can use other ways to navigate to.
And I dont talk about transmit anything. With that there are easy way to troll the NATO.
Do you like the NATO?

tsman · « **Reply #4 on:** October 08, 2018, 01:18:52 am »

Are you really planning to be an asshole with the only reason being "its not illegal"?

If you do end up causing havoc then expect there to be new laws banning whatever it is you did. The people that legitimately want to release a balloon for good reasons will love you.

Lord of nothing · « **Reply #5 on:** October 08, 2018, 01:29:40 am »

does i mention before? I dont like the NATO. And my Country arent in the NATO and when the Balloon Cross the Boarder its not an problem of your Military anymore. $:=\$

Lord of nothing · « **Reply #6 on:** October 08, 2018, 01:53:23 am »

You country joke with Mr Trum every time around.

station240 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 08, 2018, 02:09:01 am »

What the hell are Jaffs anyway ?
I assume sort form of fine material that reflects radar signals.

Lord of nothing · « **Reply #8 on:** October 08, 2018, 02:13:32 am »

oh the get spelled with ch... -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaff_(countermeasure)

xrunner · « **Reply #9 on:** October 08, 2018, 02:14:01 am »

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Internet troll

"In Internet slang, a troll (/troʊl, trɒl/) is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion,[3] whether for the troll's amusement or a specific gain."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Lord of nothing · « **Reply #10 on:** October 08, 2018, 02:17:30 am »

I would not be necessary if the Terrorist who sitt in the White House would commit suicide.

Monkeh · « **Reply #11 on:** October 08, 2018, 02:36:41 am »

What are you, 12?

coppercone2 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 08, 2018, 02:39:16 am »

are you retarded?

coppercone2 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 08, 2018, 02:42:23 am »

p.s. cia might kill your ass

Lord of nothing · « **Reply #14 on:** October 08, 2018, 02:53:12 am »

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are you retarded?

nope i hate the nato just like many cats water.

CatalinaWOW · « **Reply #15 on:** October 08, 2018, 03:09:41 am »

I suspect that your proposed trolling methods would be hardly noticed by your intended target. No doppler. Very localized. And other reasons. So unlikely to accomplish anything like your goals, even if all you want is to let someone know you are unhappy. The most likely outcome (but highly unlikely fortunately) is that one of your balloons would be run into by some poor commercial or private airplane with something between negligible and tragic consequences.

The German farmer who used a potato cannon to attack incoming flights at an airbase in Germany was much more effective. But what he learned, and what you would learn if you accomplished anything in your trolling endeavor, is that once you annoy a large powerful organization, that organization has many resources to return the favor, amplified greatly.

If you are fine with that, proceed. Otherwise, pay very close attention to what Blueskull said.

coppercone2 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 08, 2018, 03:13:56 am »

whats wrong with nato? wanna buy your own military (yea right, хотите понять русский??)

balloons were used offensively in WW2. The military will not take kindly to it nor will it be considered clever.

hamster_nz · « **Reply #17 on:** October 08, 2018, 03:25:57 am »

I don't think it would really matter, and might even provide a limited amount of useful science to somebody who was watching it. Weather balloons are regularly release, carrying radar reflectors, to measure weather conditions. See https://www.instructables.com/id/Lightweight-Radar-Reflector/ if you want to build your own...

On radar it would appear pretty uninteresting - it will not be moving fast, and would have no rotating parts (unlike a helicopter's blades), so would be identified as "mostly harmless", and at best maybe a hazard to aircraft navigation.

There is far worse things that a government can do than start legal proceedings against you for your lawful-but-annoying activities - they can start a tax audit!

See http://www.interestingprojects.com/cruisemissile/ and https://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/12/10/diy_5k_cruise_project_shut/ for another's cautionary tale.

Alex Eisenhut · « **Reply #18 on:** October 08, 2018, 03:45:40 am »

Quote from: station240 on October 08, 2018, 02:09:01 am

What the hell are Jaffs anyway ?

I thought he wanted to make some MAD fold-ins to protest NATO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Fold-in

Simon · « **Reply #19 on:** October 08, 2018, 06:13:18 am »

OK show's over and someone won't even be lord of his account if we get any more of this!


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