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Wilkinson combiner coil induction measurement question
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March 21, 2017, 10:37:32 am »
If I plug my desired frequency (137.55kHz yes, kHz, I am inputting 0.13755MHz) into this on line calculator I get a figure for the two coils of 81.82uH each
http://leleivre.com/rf_wilkinson.html
I have two coils prepped with a few excess turns, and can measure with a calibrated Philips LCR meter at 1kHz, or I can try and measure them with an AIM4170 antenna analyzer at 137khz. Is it important to measure and trim them at 137khz or not please? Can I assume the on line calculator is assuming measurement at the operating frequency?
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March 21, 2017, 10:56:26 am »
Try the Skin depth calculator at 1kHz and 137kHz. I think it might have a significant effect on the Q of your coils - i.e. I think you should test at 137kHz.
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Re: Wilkinson combiner coil induction measurement question
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March 21, 2017, 11:25:44 am »
If they're air core, use this:
http://hamwaves.com/antennas/inductance.html
The network Q is quite low, so the Q of the components will have only a small effect (i.e., Q > 10 gives < 10% losses, roughly speaking).
BTW, why use a Wilkinson divider instead of a wideband transformer splitter? No need for tuned components, just one winding (well, and a few taps and such) and a lump of ferrite.
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Thanks for that Andy, I will use the AIM4170 to verify the impedance then, as the calculator cited above gives different turns to the one I used.
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OK, understood, thanks for that. The reasons i am using a combiner are two fold. Someone with similar amps to combine has buikt it and it apparently works well, and I am not qualified to design a good output transformer. plus I don't know where to source a suitably efficient core to handle the combined power as the FT-240-78 material one used in each amp seems as big as I can get in that material (designed for the frequency) and it already runs slightly warm. Specifics on what to try welcome
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