EEVBLOG videos had better add english subtitle

[aykut54]

Hi everyone:)

This site is usefull for us. I want something so as to EEVBLOG for future and for you:)


Dear Dave,

how if add EEVBLOG videos english subtitle?


thanks  in advance,

yours sincerely,

[T4P]

I can hear his voice clearly .
If he were to add subtitles , it would just flash by too fast .
Aussies speak fast .

[saturation]

Youtube has a close caption feature, if the video maker don't make their own it can use speech-to-text to make a best effort to print it out.  Its good enough; just take some of the translation phonetically since it gets confused with technical jargon and some accents.

[TheWelly888]

I need subtitles for watching TV since I'm hard of hearing but I have no problem following Dave - only when some of his guests don't have a microphone on them.

I once tried to subtitle a clip lasting about 5 minutes of continual talking, it took me 2 hours to transcribe and put the phrases in the right places and I gave up before I got to the end! Thumbs up to those who create TV subtitles!

[Psi]

Yeah, adding subtitles is a massive undertaking.

I just don't see it being a good use of his time.

[caroper]

Youtube has a close caption feature, if the video maker don't make their own it can use speech-to-text to make a best effort to print it out.  Its good enough; just take some of the translation phonetically since it gets confused with technical jargon and some accents.

An American based codec translating an Australian accent into English should be hilarious

[EEVblog]

Yeah, adding subtitles is a massive undertaking.
I just don't see it being a good use of his time.

Yes, it is a massive undertaking, so it's not going to happen I'm afraid.
Same thing with other language subtitles.

Dave.

[Uncle Vernon]

Aussies speak fast .

You've never been to Western Queensland then!

[T4P]

Aussies speak fast .

You've never been to Western Queensland then!

Not THAT fast , i have never slowed down on catching any speed of speaking english .

[vk6zgo]

Aussies speak fast .

You've never been to Western Queensland then!

They speak both Softly & Slooowly there!

[TheWelly888]

An American based codec translating an Australian accent into English should be hilarious

Did that once - it looked like a very bad news night!

[SeanB]

American english is strange. Only country where the news networks use subtitles on news clips, even if the original is in English, but non US speaker.

Wonder how they would deal with the Babel that is South Africa. 11 official languages.........

[Write_to_Smokegenerator]

I don't have a problem with the English from an Australian, American or British
But I personally think subtitles are very bad for non native speakers, because every time you just automatically read the subtitle.
I know that feeling really well, when I first started viewing English video's with subtitles I couldn't concentrate on the content I simply concentrate on the text.
Also the amount of work for subtitles is just not worth it.

cheers.

[caroper]

Wonder how they would deal with the Babel that is South Africa. 11 official languages.........

Ja well no fine

[saturation]

Its required by US law; otherwise deaf people can't watch TV.  Its not just news, its everything broadcasted in the US including foreign news spoken in English such as Deustsch Welt, NHK from Japan.

American english is strange. Only country where the news networks use subtitles on news clips, even if the original is in English, but non US speaker.

Wonder how they would deal with the Babel that is South Africa. 11 official languages.........

[TheWelly888]

To my surprise when I watched the Mailbag video no 443 I found that someone called "Sen" has subtitled that clip! I couldn't find that name on this forum and a YouTube search came up with at least 4 million results!

Well done to that guy "sen" for creating the closed captions for that particular clip.

[sen]

I'm not a guy, but I'm glad someone found them useful!
I'm working on captioning them all from this point on, if you look at the last bunch they're now captioned (437, 439, 441-445).
I can't promise captions will always be up right after the video goes up, depends how long it is and how much free time I have at any given time. Takes me about 3-4x the length of the video to get it all captioned and reviewed and edited.

[TheWelly888]

Sorry, sen, for making the wrong assumption about you being a guy!  It's a big undertaking for you to subtitle them all - may I suggest focusing on the tutorial clips first?

Like I mentioned earlier in this thread, I don't actually need subtitles for Dave's videos as he speaks very clearly and also takes the trouble to get the audio right. But I couldn't share EEVblog with my deaf friends who may not hear Dave clearly despite having optimally adjusted hearing aids or cochlear implants ( they don't restore hearing ) as it would just frustrate them. In fact before I got my cochlear implant I would never have bothered with EEVblog at all. But after I started using my implant, I discovered EEVblog and found it extremely useful for helping me learn to hear with my implant ( called "auditory training" or "auditory habilitation" ) as it covers electronics, a subject that I am very interested in which is a good incentive to keep going with auditory training.

As for those who do not like or want subtitles, Youtube allows them to be turned off! My hearing father found foreign language TV programmes with English subtitles hard to follow at first as he had to watch the action and read the subs at the same time but he has become accustomed to it now that we are both fans of "Wallander","The Killing" and "Spiral"!

[ddavidebor]

Why subtitles?

I think dave has the most understandable (this word exist?) english i've ever hear.

[TheWelly888]

Why subtitles?

I think dave has the most understandable (this word exist?) english i've ever hear.

Deaf people need subtitles to watch TV and videos even if Dave speaks very clearly. You and I might not need subtitles right now but recently my implant processor broke down and I had to wait 4 days before I got a replacement processor - meanwhile I could not watch any EEVblog video at all!

[sen]

Sorry, sen, for making the wrong assumption about you being a guy!  It's a big undertaking for you to subtitle them all - may I suggest focusing on the tutorial clips first?

Well, I said I was going to caption them all from this point on. I may caption some of the "back catalog" of them, but there's probably >100 hours of content there, and at 3-4x the length of the video in captioning time, that's ~350h, more than a month of 8 hour days!
Given that there are a couple hours a week of new content, it's probably all I can do to keep up with existing ones. But your suggestion to focus on tutorials seems a good one, if/when I have time to do older ones.

Like I mentioned earlier in this thread, I don't actually need subtitles for Dave's videos as he speaks very clearly and also takes the trouble to get the audio right. But I couldn't share EEVblog with my deaf friends who may not hear Dave clearly despite having optimally adjusted hearing aids or cochlear implants ( they don't restore hearing ) as it would just frustrate them. In fact before I got my cochlear implant I would never have bothered with EEVblog at all. But after I started using my implant, I discovered EEVblog and found it extremely useful for helping me learn to hear with my implant ( called "auditory training" or "auditory habilitation" ) as it covers electronics, a subject that I am very interested in which is a good incentive to keep going with auditory training.

Aha, okay. I'm hard of hearing myself, which was my initial reason for wishing they were captioned! In a quiet room with my hearing aids and the software I use that plays short clips over and over again until I've got that little bit captioned, it's doable for me. The hardest part so far has been aussie expressions, as we don't use them here in Canada! Much googling for those to figure out what the heck Dave is saying

[alm]

As long as there are not too many, people might be willing to help if you would post links to the exact time the expression occurs (right click -> copy video URL at current time). You could try posting a few before spending lots of time trying to figure it out, and see what kind of response you get. This seems like something that a native aussie without any hearing issues could solve in a few seconds per clip.

[EEVblog]

I think dave has the most understandable (this word exist?) english i've ever hear.

WOW! this certainly is a red letter day!
I probably have more people turned off (and hate mail/comments) by my voice than any other Youtuber.

[mzzj]

I think dave has the most understandable (this word exist?) english i've ever hear.

WOW! this certainly is a red letter day!
I probably have more people turned off (and hate mail/comments) by my voice than any other Youtuber.

ha!
I usually dont have problem understanding Dave's aussie english but Dave's voice can get annoying after watching many episodes non-stop 

Subtitles  would be nice also if I don't want watch videos with headphones on my head.

[sen]

As long as there are not too many, people might be willing to help if you would post links to the exact time the expression occurs (right click -> copy video URL at current time). You could try posting a few before spending lots of time trying to figure it out, and see what kind of response you get. This seems like something that a native aussie without any hearing issues could solve in a few seconds per clip.

It's not a big deal, only takes me a minute or so to get them on google usually, I just hadn't realized how many expressions there are that are different until doing this!

[IanB]

I think dave has the most understandable (this word exist?) english i've ever hear.

Yes, that word exists and it also means what you think it means 

[ddavidebor]

I think dave has the most understandable (this word exist?) english i've ever hear.

WOW! this certainly is a red letter day!
I probably have more people turned off (and hate mail/comments) by my voice than any other Youtuber.

If people don't like you voice why you're so successfull?

Your voice in one of the thing that makes you funny!

[c4757p]

I must be one of the few with no comment at all about Dave's voice. It just seems... normal.

[BravoV]

Since English is not my native, I found out the sub-title enhances the video's quality, great work you've done Sen, thank you. 

[EEVblog]

I must be one of the few with no comment at all about Dave's voice. It just seems... normal.

Every time one of my videos gets posted on some other major blog, Hack-a-day, reddit, etc and people see me for the first time, there are always a flood of comments (half of them is common) about how horrible my voice, how they can't stand it, blah, blah, blah. Usually from Americans 

[saturation]

I wouldn't pay them any mind.  You wouldn't be the success you are now had you been different.  I don't think any EE videos from the USA come close to what you've accomplished.  Its brought to light some potential stars, but none are as prolific and international as eevblog.

If there is a need for subtitles, its more for non-English speakers.

I must be one of the few with no comment at all about Dave's voice. It just seems... normal.

Every time one of my videos gets posted on some other major blog, Hack-a-day, reddit, etc and people see me for the first time, there are always a flood of comments (half of them is common) about how horrible my voice, how they can't stand it, blah, blah, blah. Usually from Americans 

[Excavatoree]

Every time one of my videos gets posted on some other major blog, Hack-a-day, reddit, etc and people see me for the first time, there are always a flood of comments (half of them is common) about how horrible my voice, how they can't stand it, blah, blah, blah. Usually from Americans 

From the first EEVBLOG video I watched, I honestly never thought about Dave's voice one way or the other.  When I read the first negative comment, I thought "What?"  Of course, I wonder if having many foreign professors, and now many foreign co-workers had any effect?  Also, my favorite music radio program comes from Australia, so I was a bit used to it already.

I personally am glad everyone doesn't sound the same - even in the US.   Heck, I'm from the Southeastern US, and we get subtitled all the time - for US audiences. 

[hammy]

If there is a need for subtitles, its more for non-English speakers.

Dave is in 99% very good to understand. Sometimes, at the flea market or with a guest in his lab, I wish there is a subtitle for them.
But Dave's voice is ok. No need for a surgical intervention. 

But the amp hour 135 with mike was not possible for me to hear. Mike's fast english mumble was impossible to understand for me. A transcription would be, in this case, great!

[SeanB]

Dave has a good voice, and good clear delivery. The audio he delivers is also good, equal to many radio presenters. I think he has been listening to TWIRT a lot for tips on broadcasting, even if the actual presenters have poor audio a lot ( rather ironic on a show dedicated to quality audio) and choppy connections. A lot of US TV I have had the misfortune to see has subtitles, in English ( or the US version) and subtitles the English speakers ( especially if they are British ( ok you might need that for the Geordies and the Scots) or any other English speaking country) but ironically the Spanish is not subtitled........

[c4757p]

A lot of US TV I have had the misfortune to see has subtitles, in English ( or the US version) and subtitles the English speakers ( especially if they are British ( ok you might need that for the Geordies and the Scots) or any other English speaking country) but ironically the Spanish is not subtitled........

Many in the US don't travel much. Sad as it is, it's not completely uncommon for somebody in one state to have some difficulty understanding someone a few states over, just because they're not accustomed to hearing anything but their own local dialect. Not entirely sure why Spanish would not be subtitled, though - in my experience it usually is.

[Ferroto]

the problem isn't Dave talking too fast it's Americans who talk too damn slow.

[c4757p]

True, but we have to talk slowly so you Canadians will understand us.

[Monkeh]

But the amp hour 135 with mike was not possible for me to hear. Mike's fast english mumble was impossible to understand for me. A transcription would be, in this case, great!

Honestly, he's easy to understand, but his mic is.. bad. Really, really bad.

[vk6zgo]

Aussies speak fast .

You've never been to Western Queensland then!

Or country NSW!

[Stonent]

Wonder how they would deal with the Babel that is South Africa. 11 official languages.........

Ja well no fine

The first time I heard a white South African english speaker, I was like "What the...? Is he English? Austalian? I can't place the accent!"

There's a youtube channel, I forget the name, with a white South African that does videos on electronics and Arduino stuff, I'm just fascinated by the accent.

[Ed.Kloonk]

Aussies speak fast .

You've never been to Western Queensland then!

Or country NSW!

When I visit my family, I return to the city sounding like I'm running at 33rpm apparently.

[retiredcaps]

There's a youtube channel, I forget the name, with a white South African that does videos on electronics and Arduino stuff, I'm just fascinated by the accent.

Martin?

https://www.youtube.com/user/mjlorton/videos

[digsys]

On a driving tour of USA, a while back, I went off the beaten path in the deep south. Stopped at a Petrol station / Supermarket to
fill up / load up. I couldn't understand a single word from the owner / cashiers, so I yelled out "can anyone here understand me?".
An Irish couple came forward. They had heavy accents, but at least I could work out the gist. So for the next several minutes, it was a
3 way SouthernUSA_English <> Irish_English <> Aussie_English translation chain. Everyone else was peeing themselves laughing, and
had no idea what the other 2/3 of the conversation was. I still chuckle over it.

[Kremmen]

A few summers ago we driving around the Highlands in Scotland on a holiday trip. Being a native Finnish speaker i have learned the "Oxford English" in school - works OK in England but not so much up there. What happened we encountered a log rig on a narrow road in the middle of nowhere near Ullapool and being the smaller party had to duck to avoid being run over. Result, a puncture from the rough road curb. Had that fixed in Inverness in a garage where the young bloke doing the job was trying to start a conversation with me. He could understand what i was saying but the return channel was just noise. Didn't understand a single word which was kind of bewildering. Now i have managed even the Welsh dialect which is far from Queen's English, but this was just impossible. My money was good however, so everything ended OK.

[jpb]

I must be one of the few with no comment at all about Dave's voice. It just seems... normal.

Every time one of my videos gets posted on some other major blog, Hack-a-day, reddit, etc and people see me for the first time, there are always a flood of comments (half of them is common) about how horrible my voice, how they can't stand it, blah, blah, blah. Usually from Americans 

The Americans had a bit of a craze on Australian accents when Crocodile Dundee came out. I remember visiting America at the time with my very British accent and being mistaken for an Australian simply because my accent wasn't American. Paul Hogan has a lot to answer for!

[Stonent]

I must be one of the few with no comment at all about Dave's voice. It just seems... normal.

Every time one of my videos gets posted on some other major blog, Hack-a-day, reddit, etc and people see me for the first time, there are always a flood of comments (half of them is common) about how horrible my voice, how they can't stand it, blah, blah, blah. Usually from Americans 

The Americans had a bit of a craze on Australian accents when Crocodile Dundee came out. I remember visiting America at the time with my very British accent and being mistaken for an Australian simply because my accent wasn't American. Paul Hogan has a lot to answer for!

That and the Fosters commercials "Fust-tas! Ahhstralian for bee-ah!" and Outback Steakhouse with their "Bloomin' Onion"

I guess many of us never realized that actual people lived there, who knew the Kangaroos and Koalas would make room!

My "mum" still has her vintage 80s nightshirt with Garfield the Cat wearing a safari style outfit and captions "G'day Mate!"

[victor]

I think his english is pretty clear, I just can't stand videos of Indians speaking english. Also australian english is more alike the american accent than british.

[TMM]

A few summers ago we driving around the Highlands in Scotland on a holiday trip. Being a native Finnish speaker i have learned the "Oxford English" in school - works OK in England but not so much up there. What happened we encountered a log rig on a narrow road in the middle of nowhere near Ullapool and being the smaller party had to duck to avoid being run over. Result, a puncture from the rough road curb. Had that fixed in Inverness in a garage where the young bloke doing the job was trying to start a conversation with me. He could understand what i was saying but the return channel was just noise. Didn't understand a single word which was kind of bewildering. Now i have managed even the Welsh dialect which is far from Queen's English, but this was just impossible. My money was good however, so everything ended OK.

If it's any consolation, often i have no idea what the Scottish are going on about either lol.

Dave is very easy to understand. Quirky/enthusiastic yes, but that is never a bad thing. I still laugh every time he says 'dickhead' or 'retarded'.

[Stonent]

I think Monty Python had some excellent observations on what some cultures looked like to others.

What some English look like to non-english. (Well it's more so about banter but still applies I think)



Oh and there's this one

What Australians look like to Germans. (3m25s) (I can't get the time to start correctly, just select the correct time to start)

Monty Python's Fliegender Zirkus - German Episode

And of course, this excellent sketch on what the Americans think the Germans are like and what the Germans think the Americans are like.



And what the Australians look like to the English:

[victor]

[TheWelly888]

Stumbled on this site (http://www.amara.org/en/) via this Reddit thread (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1seh9h/i_donate_my_time_subtitling_popular_youtube/)

It appears Amara is designed to make it easier for people to add subtitles to YT (and others) videos. Right now I have not had a go yet.

[Icchan]

Yeah, adding subtitles is a massive undertaking.
I just don't see it being a good use of his time.

Yes, it is a massive undertaking, so it's not going to happen I'm afraid.
Same thing with other language subtitles.

Dave.

Hmm... crowd source it! It's quite possible to make the subtitles with many contributors and such... then just put them on the videos. You could even get many different languages to boot