Agilent 54831D modernising

[bigeblis]

So many days have passed, I still did not complete this.
What system should it run under?

[bigeblis]

In winXP and Win10 system, it is reported as follows: unknown secondary compressor ID: XD3_INVALID_INPUT

[bigeblis]

Still did not learn how to get

[Howardlong]

Alternatively you could use your favourite hex editor to make the changes. I only offered the automated test method to save you the effort, I did spend time both testing and verifying the results, I am sorry it didn't work for you.

[bigeblis]

Just do not understand this kind of change, so, in fact, I did not understand those you said ....
Is it possible to provide a modified file?

[bigeblis]

Attached is an xdelta3.0.11 patch file for agscope.exe 5.71.

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xdelta3-3.0.11-x86_64.exe -d -s agScope.exe delta agscopeNew.exe

MD5:

3c8e68f5dc7dd21ba83375cdce706b32 agscope.exe
d59b2f6f5d46ece50e42303951b89688 agscopenew.exe

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Byte offset agscope.exe agscopeNew.exe

0x001AEF1A 0x85 0xE9
0x001AEF1B 0xC0 0xB7
0x001AEF1C 0x0F 0x01
0x001AEF1D 0x84 0x00
0x001AEF1E 0x94 0x00
0x001AEF1F 0x00 0xC3
0x001AEF20 0x00 0xC3
0x001AEF21 0x00 0xC3

0x001AF0D6 0xCC 0x85
0x001AF0D7 0xCC 0xC0
0x001AF0D8 0xCC 0x0F
0x001AF0D9 0xCC 0x84
0x001AF0DA 0xCC 0xD8
0x001AF0DB 0xCC 0xFE
0x001AF0DC 0xCC 0xFF
0x001AF0DD 0xCC 0xFF
0x001AF0DE 0xCC 0xEB
0x001AF0DF 0xCC 0x05

0x001AF0E5 0xCC 0x83
0x001AF0E6 0xCC 0xF8
0x001AF0E7 0xCC 0xF8
0x001AF0E8 0xCC 0x0F
0x001AF0E9 0xCC 0x85
0x001AF0EA 0xCC 0x34
0x001AF0EB 0xCC 0xFE
0x001AF0EC 0xCC 0xFF
0x001AF0ED 0xCC 0xFF
0x001AF0EE 0xCC 0xEB
0x001AF0EF 0xCC 0x13

0x001AF103 0xCC 0xB8
0x001AF104 0xCC 0x01
0x001AF105 0xCC 0x00
0x001AF106 0xCC 0x00
0x001AF107 0xCC 0x00
0x001AF108 0xCC 0xE9
0x001AF109 0xCC 0x16
0x001AF10A 0xCC 0xFE
0x001AF10B 0xCC 0xFF
0x001AF10C 0xCC 0xFF


I am based on your instructions, modify the executable file, MD5 code the same. But the number of options displayed after the instrument is running is still 0? What else do I need to do?

[eurofox]

Somebody has already done an O/S upgrade on one of these:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/%28urgent%29-agilent-54831d-mso-oscilloscope-4a16dig-new-motherboard-windows-7/

A pity he didn't share his experience.

Check here what he changed 

http://www.ebay.pl/itm/Agilent-54831D-MSO-4an-16dig-wUpgraded-Motherboard-cpu-2-3-2GHz-RAM-SSD-ALL-OPTS/291821246325

[Howardlong]

Somebody has already done an O/S upgrade on one of these:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/%28urgent%29-agilent-54831d-mso-oscilloscope-4a16dig-new-motherboard-windows-7/

A pity he didn't share his experience.

Check here what he changed 

http://www.ebay.pl/itm/Agilent-54831D-MSO-4an-16dig-wUpgraded-Motherboard-cpu-2-3-2GHz-RAM-SSD-ALL-OPTS/291821246325

After many hours (days in fact!) of working on this, including a build with exactly the same board and processor he used, I'm yet to be convinced it was a stable build. In particular, there is a point at which, when using the delayed trace, it will become unstable and crash.

Either way, I didn't have an appetite to hack out the chassis to allow for a different IO shield unless I was 100% sure I had a stable build first. My metalwork skills ain't that good either!

This is back to a rainy day project for now, too busy on other stuff, and it was a real time pit.

[bigeblis]

Somebody has already done an O/S upgrade on one of these:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/%28urgent%29-agilent-54831d-mso-oscilloscope-4a16dig-new-motherboard-windows-7/

A pity he didn't share his experience.

Check here what he changed 

http://www.ebay.pl/itm/Agilent-54831D-MSO-4an-16dig-wUpgraded-Motherboard-cpu-2-3-2GHz-RAM-SSD-ALL-OPTS/291821246325

After many hours (days in fact!) of working on this, including a build with exactly the same board and processor he used, I'm yet to be convinced it was a stable build. In particular, there is a point at which, when using the delayed trace, it will become unstable and crash.

Either way, I didn't have an appetite to hack out the chassis to allow for a different IO shield unless I was 100% sure I had a stable build first. My metalwork skills ain't that good either!

This is back to a rainy day project for now, too busy on other stuff, and it was a real time pit.

According to my experience, this program must be specified to run using a single CPU core, using two or more cores to run it, resulting in an irregular crash, and the measurement display stops.

[Wuerstchenhund]

According to my experience, this program must be specified to run using a single CPU core, using two or more cores to run it, resulting in an irregular crash, and the measurement display stops.

I'm not sure that's the problem, as the same scope app (5.71) is used on the DSO8000 Series which runs on a Pentium4 platform, and my DSO8064A has HyperThreading enabled, i.e. Windows sees two CPU cores.

[Mrt12]

Hi all,
anything new on this? I wonder whether somebody has a tip for upgrading the options on the scopes running Win98? My unit has no agscope.exe, but a Ag5483x.exe. I think this patch won't work here.

[Howardlong]

Hi all,
anything new on this? I wonder whether somebody has a tip for upgrading the options on the scopes running Win98? My unit has no agscope.exe, but a Ag5483x.exe. I think this patch won't work here.

I spent far too many hours and days on this already, so although it was close, I didn’t want to commit to physically hacking the scope to accept a new motherboard: the I/O panel is not a clip in shield, its various cutouts are machined into the chassis.

For me the biggest problem is boot time, it takes a couple of minutes to start up even with an SSD and maxed out motherboard. I did get it to get to the app from cold boot in a few seconds with a new mobo and processor, but it wasn’t reliable in delayed sweep.

I believe that a Win98 unit may well need an upgraded motherboard. The one in mine is a Motorola VP22.

[Jwalling]

I believe that a Win98 unit may well need an upgraded motherboard. The one in mine is a Motorola VP22.

AFAIK, the 54830 series of scopes (except for the 54835A which was the previous generation) shipped with Pentium III based motherboards, so they all should be capable of running XP if there's enough memory installed.

[PnpNpn]

Hi guys,

Tell me please.I appeal to you for advice.
How to properly install Windows XP 32bit, On devices  Agilent 5483xx and 5485xx ?
For devices Agilent 5483xx and 5485xx, Need only English version of Windows XP 32bit ?
At the moment I have a problem with installing drivers for Agilent 5485xx.

Thank all in advance.

[nctnico]

You can't install Windows XP because the drivers are incompatible. There is no way around that.

[Converter]

You can't install Windows XP because the drivers are incompatible. There is no way around that.

He has deal with Agilent 54854, which, like 54830/54831, is suitable for working with Windows XP.

[PnpNpn]

hi,

Can anyone have the right files to the device  Agilent 5485?? ?
image disc Oscilloscope Recovery ?

[Tony_G]

I have the recovery files for a bunc of these scopes located here:

https://1drv.ms/f/s!Amqar8_XQ9Uzj6YhN1xHdM8tQdKMOA

These images cover these models (read the InfiniiumUpgradeRecovery.pdf first):

Quick links
For models 54810A, 54815A, 54820A, 54825A, 54835A, 54845A, 54846A
For models 54845B and 54846B
For models 54830B, 54830D, 54831B, 54831D, 54832B, 54832D, 54833A, 54833D
For models 54853A, 54854A, and 54855A

I only used them for the 54845A so that is the only model I can speak for unfortunately.

As for getting the drivers, you may be able to use WinXP drivers on WIn98 and vice versa - I posted on that in another thread:

You can't use Win98 drivers on XP because the driver model is completely different.

That isn't completely correct.

Windows Driver Model (WDM) was introduced in Win98. The previous driver model was VxD and it is also supported in Win98. That said, the driver in the WinXP image may be based on WDM and may be able to be used on Win98 - WinXP introduced new WDM features so a WinXP WDM driver may not work on Win98/Win2K but a Win98/Win2K WDM driver will work on WinXP.

Of course the driver could also be based on Windows Driver Foundation and thus be basically XP and up (ignoring UMDF & KMDF distinctions).

So there is a chance that the driver from the XP image will work on the Win98 one.

Hope this helps.

TonyG

[PnpNpn]

Thanks  Tony_G for the help, What disk image do you recommend to use?
Watch attachments,in your archive was not found, disk image files, for the series 5485x.

regards, PnpNpn

I have the recovery files for a bunc of these scopes located here:

https://1drv.ms/f/s!Amqar8_XQ9Uzj6YhN1xHdM8tQdKMOA

These images cover these models (read the InfiniiumUpgradeRecovery.pdf first):

[Tony_G]

What is the exact model number of the scope you have?

TonyG

[PnpNpn]

My scope  Agilent 54854A DSO.

regards, PnpNpn

[Tony_G]

I would start with the 3.5 recovery image then the 4.3 upgrade and finally the 4.5 upgrade. You could start 4.3 recovery but you'll need to build a boot ISO for it as it is expecting LS-120 disks.

The 3.5 ISO is "54845A\548xx\Upg_Rec\3_5\3_5-rec.iso"

TonyG

[PnpNpn]

My opinions, although I do not have experience with work scope.
series scope 5483xx, more new than series 5484xx. Series scope 5483xx,
about  were issued  At the same time  with a series 5485xx. Maybe I'm wrong..
But judging on embedded motherboards,  they are using improved  series scope 5483xx, 5485xx.

That's what I noticed:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/agilent-54831d-modernising/msg1067089/#msg1067089

regards,  PnpNpn

I would start with the 3.5 recovery image then the 4.3 upgrade and finally the 4.5 upgrade. You could start 4.3 recovery but you'll need to build a boot ISO for it as it is expecting LS-120 disks.

The 3.5 ISO is "54845A\548xx\Upg_Rec\3_5\3_5-rec.iso"

[Tony_G]

I'm not disagreeing as I don't really know - I had a early model 54845A and I started there. I also just grabbed the entire directory because Keysight will delete the FTP folders after 7 days or so.

That said, the PDF doesn't make a difference between those scopes - I'd just try it and see what happens - The process will take a couple of hours.

TonyG

[croma641]

Hi,

big problem here. I've got an Agilent 54831b with faulty motherboard.

In order to test the oscilloscope, I need a working Windows Xp image of an 831b or 832b (not  W98,
I must use an Intel motherboard that supports only Xp).

Can anyone (PAID) provide such image ?



thanks in advance !