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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #775 on: September 21, 2018, 03:01:22 am »
Welcome to the forum, Zimphire.

Interesting how much noise was in the meter and how much better performance was after Jack made those cap mods.

Looks like he recently fixed up the AN8009 as well. https://www.jackenhack.com/aneng-an8009-improve-accuracy-response/

I've got a lot of responses from people doing the upgrade on the AN8009 and not getting any significantly better results. I did on my unit, but maybe they've improved later batches.

I did the mod to my 8008 and 8009 and the reading definitely stabilizes much quicker.  I am using Brymen leads and they are quite snug, fitting better than the OEM leads
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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #776 on: November 18, 2018, 07:01:30 am »
The 200mA fuses are for resale

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10A-600uA-fuse-for-RM101-102-multimeter/32811804077.html

its 200mA(109-111) for the aneng 8008 meter
 
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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #777 on: December 30, 2018, 08:22:51 pm »

Not an AN8008 competitor, due to the price and the larger form factor. But it looks somewhat promising -- might even have proper fuses?
Although the 600V CAT IV rating and the claim that it is "FDA certified" do not instill confidence...  ::)
Really?? "it is "FDA certified"!
Now I can give some multimeters to my cows! the heifers will get a kick out of it.  :-DD

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #778 on: December 30, 2018, 08:30:34 pm »
As far as the AN8008 readings around µV are concerned...

I have a Uni-T UT70D (80,000 count) and a Brymen 867s (up to 500,000 count) both can read down to a resolution of 1 µV
Both have trouble at around the 0 mark at either staying on 0 when leads are shorted or reading accurately in the -10 to +10 µV range, no matter the source of the measurement.
I see this quite often, where someone gets frustrated because open leads on the volts setting does not remain at zero and floats up and down.

This is actually a good feature for those doing electrical work. it shows that not only are you getting 0 voltage on a circuit, but that the wiring inside the wall or wherever is not even connected.
 uh, oops. Time to re draw some wire....
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #779 on: December 30, 2018, 08:31:07 pm »
@TheNewLab, with all the excitement about the FDA-certified meter, it looks like you got your quote nesting mixed up...  ;)
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #780 on: January 25, 2019, 08:52:22 am »
One question.
I see there is enough space to fit a 9V battery.
Is it possible to add the 9V battery with a 3.5 or 3.3V stabilizer?
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #781 on: January 25, 2019, 02:56:38 pm »
maybe, if you remove the battery-box.
but why? a pair of AAA's has more mA than a pp3
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #782 on: February 06, 2019, 10:23:46 am »
The idea was to increase battery power.
But i will have some loss on stabiliser too... so maybe you're right.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #783 on: February 14, 2019, 10:19:27 am »
Thank you all for the valuable resources you have provided on the Topic of the AN8008. Due to some problems i had with enabling the Temperature readings on my AN8008 i will share a modified eeprom guide. This is nothing new just has some additional infos and resources in there so even "people with limited knowledge - like me 8)" can attempt this.

I tested this on 2 different AN8008 - the newer one has another digit added to the serial number so i guess they were running out of values and it worked on both of them!

Hardware used was an Arduino Nano for the eeprom read and write. Make sure you know the Pinout of your Arduino and connect accordingly!
SDA to SDA and SCL to SCL and GND to GND.

Hopefully this helpes somebody.
Enjoy!
 
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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #784 on: February 14, 2019, 03:16:07 pm »
Awesome!
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #785 on: February 15, 2019, 01:47:20 am »
Welcome to the forum, 12345. I'm surprised that username wasn't already taken. ;D
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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #786 on: April 18, 2019, 10:55:16 am »
I want to share that I've been able to modify the EEPROM contents of my AN8008 meters (I have two) using the instructions posted by 12345 a couple posts above and the instructions from the Russian thread. I slightly modified them to use the equipment I have on hand.

I used this EEPROM mod to disable the auto off function and the display backlight timeout. I prefer my meters this way.

I have two AN8008 meters.
I got my first unit in 2017 from aliexpres, it has an 8 digit serial.
I got my second unit in 2018 from banggood, it has a 9 digit serial.
The second unit has a slightly different PCB from my first unit - it has exposed solder covered traces going from the 10A input jack to the fuse and from the fuse to the current shunt. The procedure worked equally well for both units.

Here's the steps I used to modify my EEPROM:
1) I connected the following 3 points on the PCB together: both points marked JP2 and the VPP point. (This step is only necessary if  you want to write to the EEPROM. EEPROM reads can be performed if you skip this step.)
2) Then I connected my 3.3V arduino pro mini to the P24C02A EEPROM on the AN8008 using a SOIC clip. I only connected both I2C lines (SDA and SCL) and the GND line. I used 4.7k ohm pull up resistors on each of the I2C lines (the lines are pulled up to the voltage on the arduino's 3.3V pin). (The pull up resistors may not be necessary.)
3) Then I turned the meter on by moving the rotary knob on the multimeter to the voltage position. The batteries should be present in the meter from here on out or the procedure won't work.
4) I ran the following code on the connected arduino. This is a basic I2C EEPROM read and write code that can be used to read and write to a breadboarded EEPROM or to the EEPROM on the AN8008. When the code is run as is, it will simply read the EEPROM contents and dump them to the serial output for you to capture. It's recommended to save the contents of the EEPROM before you make any changes.
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/* WIRING: use 3.3V arduino pro mini
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 * 24C02 GND - arduino GND
 * 24C02 SDA - arduino SDA (A4) [this line is pulled to VCC (3.3V) using a 4.7k ohm resisor (10k can also work, or the it can be omitted)]
 * 24C02 SCL - arduino SCL (A5) [this line is pulled to VCC (3.3V) using a 4.7k ohm resisor (10k can also work, or the it can be omitted)]
 *
 * the following 3 points should be bridged together on the an8008 for a successful write: both JP2 points and VPP (reading can be done without this)
*/

#include <Wire.h>

#define PRINTHEXORDEC  // print the EEPROM in human readable format (for viewing in arduino serial monitor)
//#define PRINTBYTESTREAM  // print raw byte data of the EEPROM (for realterm capture)

#define PRINTFORMAT HEX  // put HEX or DEC here
#define PRINTSEPARATOR " "

const int myEEPROM = 0x50;
const int myEEPROMsize = 256;

void setup() {
  // put your setup code here, to run once:
  Wire.begin();
  Serial.begin(9600);
  delay(10);

  //eepwrite(myEEPROM,0xFB,0x00);  // disable an 8008 auto power off function
  //eepwrite(myEEPROM,0xFC,0x00);  // disable an 8008 backlight timeout

  #ifdef PRINTHEXORDEC
  for (int i=0; i<myEEPROMsize; i++) {
    int readbyte = eepread(myEEPROM,i);
    if (PRINTFORMAT == HEX) {
      if (readbyte <= 0xF) {
        Serial.print("0");
      }
    }
    Serial.print(readbyte, PRINTFORMAT);
    if ((i+1) % 16 == 0) {
      Serial.println();
    }
    else {
      Serial.print(PRINTSEPARATOR);
    }
    if ((i+1) % 256 == 0) {
      Serial.println();
    }
  }
  #endif

  #ifdef PRINTBYTESTREAM
  for (int i=0; i<myEEPROMsize; i++) {
    int readbyte = eepread(myEEPROM,i);
    Serial.write(readbyte);
  } 
  #endif
}

void loop() {
  // put your main code here, to run repeatedly:
}

int eepread(int deviceAddr, int dataAddr) {
  Wire.beginTransmission(deviceAddr);
  Wire.write(dataAddr);
  Wire.endTransmission();
  Wire.requestFrom(deviceAddr,1);
  if (Wire.available()) {
    return Wire.read();
  }
  else {
    return -1;
  }
}

int eepwrite(int deviceAddr, int dataAddr, byte data) {
  Wire.beginTransmission(deviceAddr);
  Wire.write(dataAddr);
  Wire.write(data);
  Wire.endTransmission();
  delay(10);
}
5) To disable the meter auto off function and backlight timeout, simply uncomment the following two lines and run the sketch again.
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  //eepwrite(myEEPROM,0xFB,0x00);  // disable an 8008 auto power off function
  //eepwrite(myEEPROM,0xFC,0x00);  // disable an 8008 backlight timeout
 
You can also set the auto power off and display timeout functions to a custom value.
The byte at address 0xFB defines how long will it take for the auto off function to trigger in minutes. 15min was the default. Set this to 0 to completely disable the function.
The byte at address 0xFC defines how long will it take for the display backlight to turn off after you turned it on in seconds. 120 sec was the default. Set this to 0 to completely disable the function.

You can also use the eeprwrite function in the sketch to write to any address on the EEPROM and perform other mods.

I'm attaching two pictures from the process and the original EEPROM contents from both meters (each once in a readable format and once in raw binary).
 
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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #787 on: August 14, 2019, 05:58:38 pm »
I finally picked up one of these last Christmas, and found that the 100uF cap was marked as "low ESR."
They misspelled the word "AVOID" on the battery cover under the tilt stand (AVIOD (sic)).

It came with a coated drawstring bag with a screen print of the meter on it, but I left the bag on top of the meter and left it with accessories in a new pouch for a few months. It seems the coating on the bag dissolved a patterned onto the clear screen where it touched for that time, rendering the display unreadable. I read up on polishing clear plastic, and had to buy some fine sandpaper and a Novus plastic polish kit, but was able to fix it.

Otherwise, it works as expected, and good value for the price. But I am still mainly using my EEVBlog BM235 and old Fluke 8060.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #788 on: August 14, 2019, 08:49:44 pm »
Buying better test leads also makes this DMM alot better..

+1 for this.  I replaced the leads on my Aneng 8009 in my toolbag with Brymen gold plated leads.  Much more accurate for the low resistance measurements I will be using it for.  I threw the OEM leads out.

I did exactly the same thing. I think the leads cost me more than the meter.  :-DD

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #789 on: August 15, 2019, 05:59:41 pm »
Na, it's not worth gold leads because the rotary switch is crap and always has several ohms resistance.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #790 on: August 25, 2019, 03:12:40 am »
Na, it's not worth gold leads because the rotary switch is crap and always has several ohms resistance.

Yeah, but the gold-plated leads still greatly reduce contact problems with the leads themselves. It's nice to know that when I touch the leads to something and don't get an immediate continuity beep I don't need to go jiggling and moving them a bit to make sure it's really not just a lead contact problem.

I have a couple of sets of "good" leads (gold plated, very pointy, silicone) I almost always use with whichever multimeter I'm using. (These aren't truly great leads by any means, but they're a lot better than what come with almost any <$100 multimeter and they were under $10/set, IIRC.) It's one of the better investments I've ever made.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #791 on: August 25, 2019, 03:47:40 am »
Na, it's not worth gold leads because the rotary switch is crap and always has several ohms resistance.

Yeah, but the gold-plated leads still greatly reduce contact problems with the leads themselves. It's nice to know that when I touch the leads to something and don't get an immediate continuity beep I don't need to go jiggling and moving them a bit to make sure it's really not just a lead contact problem.

I have a couple of sets of "good" leads (gold plated, very pointy, silicone) I almost always use with whichever multimeter I'm using. (These aren't truly great leads by any means, but they're a lot better than what come with almost any <$100 multimeter and they were under $10/set, IIRC.) It's one of the better investments I've ever made.

Totally agree, I find they reduce connection latency substantially.

My aneng is just my go anywhere, take loads of abuse meter, I also have a couple of others, including a BM235 from Dave.

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #792 on: August 25, 2019, 12:10:32 pm »
Na, it's not worth gold leads because the rotary switch is crap and always has several ohms resistance.

Yeah, but the gold-plated leads still greatly reduce contact problems with the leads themselves. It's nice to know that when I touch the leads to something and don't get an immediate continuity beep I don't need to go jiggling and moving them a bit to make sure it's really not just a lead contact problem.

I agree, there was a real difference between the OEM leads and a set of Brymen gold plated leads measuring a 1R1 5% resistor.  With the Brymen leads, it was almost dead on, with the OEM leads, the reading was just over 2R.  I originally purchased it and an 8009 for low resistance measurements for work but ended up getting a Fluke 101, again swapping out the OEM leads with the Brymen.
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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #793 on: August 25, 2019, 04:22:31 pm »
I have trouble taking the AN8008 seriously, it's no good for low ohms use.
It does not have a zero/null feature, so I have to mentally subtract ohms offset in the meter and leads.

What does it matter then, with gold ends verses chrome-plated steel? The rotary switch is copper. The input banana jacks are chrome-plated steel. You end up subtracting ohms of copper, steel, chrome anyhow.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #794 on: August 25, 2019, 04:41:50 pm »
I have trouble taking the AN8008 seriously, it's no good for low ohms use.

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it is only cheapish meter it is not 4-wire milliohmeter
A few years ago you could say that it has fantastic characteristics for beer price
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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #795 on: August 25, 2019, 05:05:53 pm »
Would you add some gold test leads?
AN8008 always has an ohm or two of resistance, you can't even check 100R resistors to 1%.
It's like toy multimeter for measuring resistance.
 

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #796 on: August 25, 2019, 05:17:52 pm »
Would you add some gold test leads?
AN8008 always has an ohm or two of resistance, you can't even check 100R resistors to 1%.
It's like toy multimeter for measuring resistance.

I mainly use it for checking continuity in new PCB designs and other basic tests in my study. For this sort of thing it's prefect.

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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #797 on: August 25, 2019, 07:18:47 pm »
What am I doing wrong? (factory calibration, no modifications except extra cap to smoth dc-dc regulator's ripple as was suggested somewhere)

Those are my daily drivers (along with  K2000), while 121GW sits in the drawer.

PS There is always a lot of bias about cheap equipment.
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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #798 on: August 25, 2019, 08:09:58 pm »
I've cleaned the shit rotary switch a few times, tried various contact cleaners and lubes to prevent oxide from building up but it keeps happening. I don't use this DMM much.
Made in USA multimeters are my daily drivers for obvious reasons.

Update: CAIG DeoxIT F5 which has Polyphenyl Ether (PPE) totally works :) and the switch works without hassles now.
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Re: AN8008 US $19, 9999count, 1uV, 0.01uA, 0.01Ohm, 1pF resolution meter
« Reply #799 on: August 25, 2019, 08:20:29 pm »
I've cleaned the shit rotary switch a few times, tried various contact cleaners and lubes to prevent oxide from building up but it keeps happening. I don't use this DMM much.

Interesting, I wonder if mine has different contacts and/or plating. I don't want to tear mine down yet because it works... I bought my dmms from aliexpress.

PS did you check your shunt with another dmm? Unlikely, but may be something wrong with it?
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