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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #125 on: February 09, 2017, 05:07:52 pm »
I was going to suggest people could possibly buy these at bulk discount and resell them for a profit. The original boxes really help a lot in re-sale. Are they essentially new old stock?
 

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #126 on: February 09, 2017, 05:44:47 pm »
I like the size. Bigger that my Brymen 257 (except thickness) but smaller than my Fluke 87V and much smaller than my Fluke 27.

For a bench meter I'm liking the lack of rubber bumper guard. The case has that grippy orange rubberized plastic in just the right places to keep if from slipping out of your hands or off the bench.  I give it a big  :-+ for ergonomics.

I would not take it outdoors or up on a roof for solar panel work. The Fluke's are for that.

The sticker "skins" came with mine but none of them really do it for me.

Are they essentially new old stock?

Yes, I think so. At least that's what mine looks like.
 

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #127 on: February 09, 2017, 07:41:32 pm »
Did anyone else get a set of stick on skins with theit metet? I dare you to post a pic of your meter in use in public if you did! I have a 1 year old daughter who has decided my multimeters are great toys as there's lots of buttons to press that go Beep, I don't think she would leave it alone if I stuck the ladybird one on.

Yep! Weird skins... Ladybug on a meter? Maybe the 'Merican flag one, but still... pretty weird.
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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #128 on: February 09, 2017, 07:44:57 pm »
I was going to suggest people could possibly buy these at bulk discount and resell them for a profit. The original boxes really help a lot in re-sale. Are they essentially new old stock?

Yes, NOS. Mine was from late 2015. Others are from 2013.

I think you would have to buy a bunch of them to get much of a discount, though. I got mine from right around $200 with Make Offer; that was for one. Anyone getting a significantly better offer for a lot of them?
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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #129 on: February 09, 2017, 09:13:30 pm »
Just a note for new U1252B owners, watch out for the DC jack to banana connectors, from the AC/DC adaptor that is shrink wrapped, its cheap stuff and mine is rusted inside at the soldering points.  :--

Better cut/peel off the shrink wrap and inspect yours.
 

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #130 on: February 09, 2017, 10:24:32 pm »
I was going to suggest people could possibly buy these at bulk discount and resell them for a profit. The original boxes really help a lot in re-sale. Are they essentially new old stock?
With a deep enough discount that might be OK but the numbers aren't that great if you have to pay import to get them to the UK or (maybe) Aus

He's selling at $225 at present for one. Let's say he accepts $200 - with postage and import duties (added by ebay so I assume he's using the Global Shipping Programme) and the poor UKP exchange rates that will be about £240.

You can buy one new, with warranty, from RS or Farnell for £476.40 which limits your ebay resale price - lets say you can make £380 so that's £140 "profit" - less about £60 ebay+paypal fees, less a tenner to post it out so maybe £70 gross. You have to take the hit on any returns at that and if it were me the Government would want £28 in income tax (yes, I do declare my ebay sales).

Oh, and you need to either buy up the whole stock or wait until he has sold all of his because if you look at recently completed sales it's clear non-one else is managing to sell any U1252B's on ebay at the moment.

I'm not saying I wouldn't do it but I'd need to be thinking of at least 30-40 units for it to be worthwhile.
 

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #131 on: February 09, 2017, 10:31:02 pm »
Yes, NOS. Mine was from late 2015. Others are from 2013.

I think you would have to buy a bunch of them to get much of a discount, though. I got mine from right around $200 with Make Offer; that was for one. Anyone getting a significantly better offer for a lot of them?

If someone bought all this guys stock and they suddenly vanished at that price I recon you could resell them for $300+ with a decent ad and photos spruiking them.
 

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #132 on: February 09, 2017, 10:34:15 pm »
I'm not saying I wouldn't do it but I'd need to be thinking of at least 30-40 units for it to be worthwhile.

I was talking about US people mostly. Overseas adds too much extra expense.
 

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #133 on: February 09, 2017, 10:40:03 pm »
I'm not saying I wouldn't do it but I'd need to be thinking of at least 30-40 units for it to be worthwhile.

I was talking about US people mostly. Overseas adds too much extra expense.
Yeah, the numbers would stack up better in the 'States but selling at $300 you'd still hand about $45 to ebay and paypal plus your own shipping on top of that so I'd want to be a fair bit less than $200 on the purchase price.

It really makes me wonder what he paid for them, given that it appears to be worth it for him to sell at $225.
 

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #134 on: February 09, 2017, 10:53:51 pm »
It really makes me wonder what he paid for them, given that it appears to be worth it for him to sell at $225.

Reminds me of the 50+ Fluke meters I bought from RS Components and resold on ebay for 5 times what I payed for them  ;D
Someone at RS goofed the website price and I ordered a bulk lot before they figured it out. I actually ordered more but they cancelled the 2nd order.
 

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #135 on: February 09, 2017, 11:36:31 pm »
Well I just lowered his supply by one :)
 

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #136 on: February 10, 2017, 12:17:02 am »
I would not take it outdoors or up on a roof for solar panel work. The Fluke's are for that.

Why not? I was troubleshooting a large 3 phase inverter driven air conditioning unit with mine the other day. I must say I am liking the dual display it's the first meter I've owned with it and it is quite handy.
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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #137 on: February 10, 2017, 12:28:28 am »
Well I just lowered his supply by one :)
Likewise but I'm going to stick at one.

I hope that you made an offer - I tried $185 which was halfway between $200 which he accepts routinely and $170 which was the highest that I could find that he has previously declined but no luck. I went with his $200 counteroffer.

The justification for another meter is marginal TBH but the price is too good to pass.
 

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #138 on: February 10, 2017, 01:27:41 am »
Please, can someone confirm that the battery charger can be used in Europe (230V, 50Hz)?

Thank you
 

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #139 on: February 10, 2017, 02:15:41 am »
Please, can someone confirm that the battery charger can be used in Europe (230V, 50Hz)?

Thank you

Yes, the changer is 100v to 240v
 

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #140 on: February 10, 2017, 02:19:25 am »
Please, can someone confirm that the battery charger can be used in Europe (230V, 50Hz)?

Hi Natman
I'm using one in Australia (240V, 50Hz) no problems the charger has an IEC socket in it so you just need a local power cord, failing that you can just stick a 9V dry cell battery in it  :)
 

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #141 on: February 10, 2017, 03:48:53 am »
Mine had a cal. date of 31-mar-2015. I got it for 200$
Don't like the probes, they look cheap and are not very sharp, prefer the ones from my U1231A
Anyone know if they plan to make a new U1252C model ?
 

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #142 on: February 10, 2017, 04:19:42 am »
Same  $200
 

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #143 on: February 10, 2017, 10:14:55 am »
I would not take it outdoors or up on a roof for solar panel work. The Fluke's are for that.

Why not? I was troubleshooting a large 3 phase inverter driven air conditioning unit with mine the other day. I must say I am liking the dual display it's the first meter I've owned with it and it is quite handy.

You're right of course - it will work just fine outdoors. It's just that it does not seem to me that it would hold up to the same kind of physical abuse as my Flukes.  The face and dial have no protection from the abuse my clumsy hands are capable of dishing out. It's too precious to risk breaking it or scratching up - especially when it's high resolution is unneeded for my outside uses.    On the other hand, I'm confident my Fluke 27 could be dropped from my roof or be lost in a snow bank until spring and still work like new.
 

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #144 on: February 10, 2017, 10:59:13 am »
Anyone know if they plan to make a new U1252C model ?

That entire line of meters was designed by Escort. Agilent/Keysight bought out Escort and have been slowly discontinuing all their products.
Almost certain they won't release a follow-up based on that design.
 

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #145 on: February 10, 2017, 02:28:07 pm »
I was going to suggest people could possibly buy these at bulk discount and resell them for a profit. The original boxes really help a lot in re-sale. Are they essentially new old stock?

I'll share.  He wants $150 for 10 plus $50 shipping.  I can't see how to make a profit on that number.  If one fails you would lose, unless you negotiated rights of return on the failed units. I was thinking buy ten sell nine. I would do it if I had 9 friends (that need a meter, I'm not that lonely but I don't use facebook).  So I would think he got them for less than $100.  Also, I would bet he bought out someone's inventory opposed to direct from Keysight.
 

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #146 on: February 10, 2017, 04:13:53 pm »
That number would work if you could hold out until the original seller ran out of inventory.    No telling how long that might be though.    Everyone else is selling new units for close to 400.

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #147 on: February 11, 2017, 03:04:36 am »
Anyone know if they plan to make a new U1252C model ?

That entire line of meters was designed by Escort. Agilent/Keysight bought out Escort and have been slowly discontinuing all their products.
Almost certain they won't release a follow-up based on that design.

I know, but I was thinking of a new design as they did with the U1242.
Would like to see a U1252C in the same form factor as the U1242C. The U1280 style is way to big and bulky.
Btw. is the switch on the U1242C as crappy as on the U1280 series?
 

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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #148 on: February 11, 2017, 04:01:55 am »
Not to change the subject but after having purchased two of these meters it just reaffirms in my mind how far off track HP/Agilent/Keysight have strayed. Other than some performance specifications I don't see how Keysight thinks this meter competes with the 87-V, its obvious rival. Depending on where you quire it (outside of eBay obviously) they are $30-$100 more expensive than the 87-V. I my mind the U1252B falls short on build quality, battery life, orange color scheme (subjective), including stickers, sorry "skins" with a professional piece of test equipment (also subjective). Who are they targeting this thing at? Then there is the intended Keysight soft case, U1174A. The meter barley fits in this thing. Now I understand Fluke is exclusively a meter company where Keysight makes damn near everything test. I also think is is possible Keysight may not necessarily want to supplant Fluke but wants to have product in the space. That would make sense until you consider how you position your product in terms of price. If you are more expensive then the established brand you better be better in nearly every respect, or at least comparable. If not you end up sitting on a lot of product and short selling on eBay.

Now before everyone jumps down my throat I did buy two of these meters. At $200 each you honestly can't beat them but when I was seriously looking to replace my 30+ year old 87 I looked at the 87-V, U1252B and U1253B. I didn't pull the trigger on any of them due to cost but I did walk away thinking these Agilent(at the time) meters did not compare with the Fluke. When all of these meters are $450+ the equation is very different.
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Re: Bunch of keysight U1252B meters around
« Reply #149 on: February 11, 2017, 06:47:43 am »
I agree that $450 is too much for one of these. But I also think it is too much for the Fluke 87V  ( I paid $200 for mine in a NOS eBay deal).

I have both and comparing the two - they just seem like very different beasts.

While the Fluke 87V is a great electronics bench meter is is also a larger,  time tested, very rugged meter that can stand up to a lot of physical abuse and keep going -  meaning it is at home away from the bench as well.

I'm loving my new Agilent U1252b.  The extra resolution and other features missing on the Fluke means it is even more useful as an electronics bench meter IMHO.  Battery life is shorter but the recharge option is nice.  Subjectively, the backlight is nicer and I like the orange color.  The smaller form factor feels less clunky in my hand and on the bench , but it also seems more fragile to me. 

I'm sure my Fluke 87 will still be used and accurate in 30 years. I'm not so sure that will be the case with the Agilent.

Just different meters - each fill an niche for me.
 


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