DS1054Z hack still good?

[mikeev]

yes ! Great ! Fantastic !

Using control panel nothing happens.
But without hyphen using CLI it does the job !

Thanks to everyone who helped and the others too !

I'm so happy !

[alsetalokin4017]

(OK good that you got it .. I just posted more instructions but they are not needed now.)

[ebastler]

Hey, glad you got it to work!

It's still strange that entering the license key via the control panel did not work -- but I guess you are not in the mood now to experiment further and risk your options again.   Enjoy your scope!

[mikeev]

Hello,

Yes it is very strange that panel's input is ignored (good or wrong key).

But you're right, I prefer not changing anything, now that it works.

I'll upgrade the firmware if I meet a problem (this is rigol's recommandation).

thanks again.

have a nice day or night..

[forelle]

Hi all,
I bought a Rigol DS1074Z some years ago and 3 days ago i thought i would like to make an uprade.First i put the latest Firmware on it.Then i reboot it and go to this site http://gotroot.ca/rigol/riglol/
I have deleted all characters write down my serial nummber and in Options DSER and press generate.I write down the code in the scope and i allways get as answer : invalid lisence.
I dont understand what mikeev has done that it now works.I am really bad with Pc and english is not my first language.Maybe somebody could explain me.Thanks.

[ebastler]

i allways get as answer : invalid lisence.

I don't think you are experiencing the same problem which mikeev had. In Mike's case, it seems that he did not get any reply when entering a license code (whether a correct or incorrect one) via the scope's control panel.

If you are not so comfortable with computers, I would recommend that you retry entering the code via the control panel (rather than setting up an Ethernet or USB connection to send commands to the scope). Please review this post and try again: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/ds1054z-hack-still-good/msg1235820/#msg1235820

Good luck!

[forelle]

Thanks,i will your recomendations.

[forelle]

Hi ebastler,
i have changed from Google Chrome to Mozilla Firefox and it works ,yeah.Thanks for this simple tip.
Have a nice day.

[ebastler]

i have changed from Google Chrome to Mozilla Firefox and it works ,yeah.

     Glad you could fix it! Have fun with your upgraded scope!

[Zanatos]

Hello,

can someone confirm me that the last rigol DS1054Z's firmware is still hackable?
Is the 00.04.04.03.02 the lastest one, right?

I'm considering to buy this 'oscope.

Thanks!

[Fungus]

can someone confirm me that the last rigol DS1054Z's firmware is still hackable?
Is the 00.04.04.03.02 the lastest one, right?

a) It's not "hacking", it's just entering a license key, as designed.

b) Rigol sells these keys to people. They can't ever stop old ones from working.

[Zanatos]

a) It's not "hacking", it's a license key generator.

b) Rigol sells these keys to people. They can't ever stop old ones from working.

First of all thanks for your fast reply!!

Sorry if my questions are, maybe, trivial but this will be my first oscilloscope and i'm not so expert.
You are saying that, also with new firmwares, they can't prevent the ability to use old keys?

Thanks again for your help!

[Fungus]

a) It's not "hacking", it's a license key generator.

b) Rigol sells these keys to people. They can't ever stop old ones from working.

First of all thanks for your fast reply!!

Sorry if my questions are, maybe, trivial but this will be my first oscilloscope and i'm not so expert.

Sure, I'm just trying to leave an answer in this thread that might stick.

You are saying that, also with new firmwares, they can't prevent the ability to use old keys?

Correct.

OK, it's not technically impossible, if they planned ahead, etc.

But ... hackers would just make a new keygen and it's 10000% more likely that their plan since day one is to allow keygens. It's good for sales. 

[Desserts]

Hi folks - prepare for newbie questions... (sorry)
Just got DS1054z and I'm trying to learn about the upgrade "hack" but don't want to mess it up - so ask first (not my usual style - but I'm learning - slowly...)

Two questions -
First, I see folks listing firmware numbers as 4 or 5 groups of 2-digit numbers.  Mine just says "00.04.04.SP3".  Is this right or am I looking at the wrong thing?  If this is right (or at least usable), it also says I have board 0.1.4.  Big question - does anyone know if the "hack" for choice DSER works with this firmware and board?

Next, after I enter the generated key string (assuming it works), is there a way to "undo" the feature upgrades and return to the basic features the scope came with? 
Also. if I enter a key string for a particular set of features (i.e., DSER), can I try a different set of features (i.e., DSFR) by just entering a different key string?  (Or do I first have to clear out everything and go back to the basic features it came with?)

I know this is a mess, but thank you in advance for your patience in wading through it.

[MarkF]

- The latest firmware version is 00.04.04.03.02 or 00.04.04.SP3.
      To see the full system info:
         - In the trigger area on the front panel, press MENU > MENU > FORCE > MENU     <<< press this sequence quickly
         - In the menu area, press UTILITY > SYSTEM > SYSTEM INFO

- DSER is all options. No need to try anything else.  DO NOT USE the DSFR option!

- To remove all options you must send the SCPI command :SYSTem:OPTion:UNINSTall via the USB or Network port. 
   You can also add options by sending the SCPI command :SYSTem:OPTion:INSTall ‘license key’

[Fungus]

Hi folks - prepare for newbie questions... (sorry)
Just got DS1054z and I'm trying to learn about the upgrade "hack" but don't want to mess it up - so ask first (not my usual style - but I'm learning - slowly...)

Two questions -
First, I see folks listing firmware numbers as 4 or 5 groups of 2-digit numbers.  Mine just says "00.04.04.SP3".  Is this right or am I looking at the wrong thing?  If this is right (or at least usable), it also says I have board 0.1.4.  Big question - does anyone know if the "hack" for choice DSER works with this firmware and board?

Yes.

Next, after I enter the generated key string (assuming it works), is there a way to "undo" the feature upgrades and return to the basic features the scope came with? 

Yes.

Also. if I enter a key string for a particular set of features (i.e., DSER), can I try a different set of features (i.e., DSFR) by just entering a different key string?  (Or do I first have to clear out everything and go back to the basic features it came with?)

DSER is the only one worth doing, DSFR is a bad idea, so... 

[MattSR]

Why is DSFR a bad thing?

[MarkF]

Why is DSFR a bad thing?

Short answer.  The hardware and calibration function do NOT support that vertical scale.

[Fungus]

Why is DSFR a bad thing?

Because the hardware doesn't support 500uV/div and you'll keep selecting it by accident every time you turn the knob in that direction.

DSER doesn't enable it.

[MattSR]

...you'll keep selecting it by accident every time you turn the knob in that direction....

DSER doesn't enable it.

That sounds like good enough reason! 

[Desserts]

Hi folks,
Thanks for the replies and explanations.   I appreciate the help.

I'm from the analog era (think: 545's and CA plugins) and my embedded biases on how things "should" work tend to make the learning curve a circle.  But I'll get there...
As soon as I'm comfortable with it's way of doing things, I'll do the upgrades.

Thanks again.
Frank

[mathsquid]

When I look at the http://gotroot.ca/rigol/riglol/ site, I don't see DSER as an option. Does entering it anyway work, or should I use a different site?

DS1000z device options:
DSAB - Advanced Triggers
DSAC - Decoders
DSAE - 24M Memory
DSAJ - Recorder
DSBA - 500uV Vertical
DSEA - 100MHz
DSFR - all options

[MarkF]

When I look at the http://gotroot.ca/rigol/riglol/ site, I don't see DSER as an option. Does entering it anyway work, or should I use a different site?

I echoed the bit assignments for each option in another thread, https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-rigol-ds1054z-oscilloscope/msg752721/#msg752721, if you really want to know the details.  Just use DSER for all options.

[Fungus]

When I look at the http://gotroot.ca/rigol/riglol/ site, I don't see DSER as an option.

Must resist urge to type something like: "We've created a global conspiracy and multiple threads on EEVBLOG telling people to use a bad code that makes their oscilloscope explode, and now you expect us to confess and change our story...?"

[Tomer]

Just about to purchase the scope
Can anyone help me and confirm that the hack is still working ?

Thank you
Tom