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Re: DSOX2000 and 3000 series - licence , have anyone tried to hack that scope ?
« Reply #1750 on: November 22, 2017, 05:06:09 pm »
Hi,

Could someone check connection between LAN8700C and SPEAR600-2, please? I'm want to add LAN to 1000x series scope, but it don't have PHY, but it have unmounted connector with MII ethernet pins. I'm not sure about pull up and pull down resistors. I colored expected connections on Dave teardown pictures. Please measure value of pull up or pull down resistor on LAN8700C pins: 3, 9, 10,11, 12, 15, 16, 17,18 and 36 if they exist. Expected resistance between LAN8700C and SPEAR600-2 is around 51ohm.

Schematic look good, because it works. However infiniivisionlauncher.exe in 1000x series is not supporting -l command. Is any other option in 2000/3000/4000/6000x series to enable license?
 
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Re: DSOX2000 and 3000 series - licence , have anyone tried to hack that scope ?
« Reply #1751 on: November 24, 2017, 10:47:24 am »
I'm trying to find a copy of the DSOX2002A v2.35 firmware, but it doesn't appear to be available on the keysight website anymore. Has anybody got a saved copy they can share?
 
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Re: DSOX2000 and 3000 series - licence , have anyone tried to hack that scope ?
« Reply #1752 on: November 24, 2017, 11:46:55 am »
I'm trying to find a copy of the DSOX2002A v2.35 firmware, but it doesn't appear to be available on the keysight website anymore. Has anybody got a saved copy they can share?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/syr4fwujkcdcwu8/2000XSeries.02.35.2013061800.cab?dl=0
 
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Re: DSOX2000 and 3000 series - licence , have anyone tried to hack that scope ?
« Reply #1753 on: November 27, 2017, 02:47:39 am »
If anyone wants a quick and dirty USB to UART converter, just use one of the FTDI USB to serial cables.  Their 3.3V version is PN: TTL-232R-3V3.  It's around $20 at Digikey and others.  It has a type A plug at the USB end and a single in line female 0.1" OC at the other end.  You need to install the FTDI driver on your PC but is handles many (most) FTDI devices.

We use them all the time with Putty.

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Re: DSOX2000 and 3000 series - licence , have anyone tried to hack that scope ?
« Reply #1754 on: November 27, 2017, 03:05:20 am »
If anyone wants a quick and dirty USB to UART converter, just use one of the FTDI USB to serial cables.  Their 3.3V version is PN: TTL-232R-3V3.  It's around $20 at Digikey and others.  It has a type A plug at the USB end and a single in line female 0.1" OC at the other end.  You need to install the FTDI driver on your PC but is handles many (most) FTDI devices.

We use them all the time with Putty.

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SparkFun sells a similar cable for only $17.95.  Available on amazon prime for the same price.

https://www.amazon.com/SparkFun-4446819-FTDI-Cable-5V/dp/B00DJBNDHE/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1511751898&sr=8-4&keywords=ftdi+cable
 
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Re: DSOX2000 and 3000 series - licence , have anyone tried to hack that scope ?
« Reply #1755 on: December 02, 2017, 02:09:40 pm »
DSOXLAN just showed up this morning for $201 at Newark.  It was $402 yesterday !

Someone was watching over me (besides my wife) when I did not click the submit order button  :)
 
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« Reply #1756 on: December 02, 2017, 02:53:20 pm »
DSOXLAN just showed up this morning for $201 at Newark.  It was $402 yesterday !

Someone was watching over me (besides my wife) when I did not click the submit order button  :)

I see a lower price on the Keysight website as well.

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« Reply #1757 on: December 05, 2017, 04:55:08 pm »
a BIG BIG thank you to all who made this possible.


I like to share my knowledge:

I have a MSOX3034A with Firmware 2.42


I used this infiniivision.lnk

98#\secure\infiniivision\infiniivisionlauncher.exe -l all -l bw50 -l SCPIPS -l SGMC -l CABLE -l PERF


along with the .lnk installer from 2.41:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/dsox2000-and-3000-series-licence-have-anyone-tried-to-hack-that-scope/?action=dlattach;attach=309258

and..... It worked and is permanent on every restart. NO telnet :-)



Thanks again to all of you!

 
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Re: DSOX2000 and 3000 series - licence , have anyone tried to hack that scope ?
« Reply #1759 on: December 08, 2017, 05:45:47 pm »
Does anyone know if the 50ohm term in sub GHz models has the same control signal as the 1ghz?  If so, would it suffice for an upgrade, perhaps with degraded return loss ... But I guess in time domain you're gonna get poor pulse response.
 
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Re: DSOX2000 and 3000 series - licence , have anyone tried to hack that scope ?
« Reply #1760 on: December 08, 2017, 06:00:25 pm »
You’re asking if the 2000X model has the trace for the 50 ohm path?

Since all the 3000X models have it, also the 100MHz bandwidth one.
 
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Re: DSOX2000 and 3000 series - licence , have anyone tried to hack that scope ?
« Reply #1761 on: December 08, 2017, 06:16:59 pm »
Not the 2000.  I was wondering if the 3024 or 54 have the rf relay (Teledyne)
 
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« Reply #1762 on: December 08, 2017, 08:43:40 pm »
Not the 2000.  I was wondering if the 3024 or 54 have the rf relay (Teledyne)

For the 3000A series only the 1 GHz model supports the Teledyne attenuator.
For the 3000T series all bandwidth models use the same PCB which have the pads for the Teledyne attenuator but you can't use it with a model under 1 GHz as the attenuation ratios/switch points are different.
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Re: DSOX2000 and 3000 series - licence , have anyone tried to hack that scope ?
« Reply #1763 on: December 09, 2017, 01:10:39 am »
Thanks.  I forgot that the part was an attenuator.  Has anyone tested the response of a 500MHz front end to a 1GHz signal?  It sounds like some wanted to but having a working scope was a higher priority  :)



 
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Re: DSOX2000 and 3000 series - licence , have anyone tried to hack that scope ?
« Reply #1764 on: December 09, 2017, 03:08:04 am »
The signal will be heavily attenuated at 1 GHz. I don't think there is any realistic way to actually mod a 100-500 MHz 3000A to 1 GHz because of the firmware changes.
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« Reply #1765 on: December 11, 2017, 02:55:48 am »
It's only a couple of bits ... in the right places.  Thanks for answering my poorly worded post.  This thread has me thinking in multiple parallel and orthogonal directions  :)  I did go back through the thread and found your comments from last year on the problem with sensing the relays.

I wonder how Tek pulled off using plain old Aromat relays for the TDS784D (1GHz) and lower BW models.  The front ends are in overall Faraday cages and I suppose if they behave consistently, you can model and compensate for their transmission path.  But then again, I've never compared high speed signal faithfulness of an Agilent to the Teks.  I have compared Agilent triggers to Tek triggers but we don't want to go there.  I still have a TDS694C that triggers up to 3GHz with ease.



 
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« Reply #1766 on: December 11, 2017, 06:09:54 am »
It's only a couple of bits ... in the right places.  Thanks for answering my poorly worded post.  This thread has me thinking in multiple parallel and orthogonal directions  :)  I did go back through the thread and found your comments from last year on the problem with sensing the relays.

I wonder how Tek pulled off using plain old Aromat relays for the TDS784D (1GHz) and lower BW models.  The front ends are in overall Faraday cages and I suppose if they behave consistently, you can model and compensate for their transmission path.  But then again, I've never compared high speed signal faithfulness of an Agilent to the Teks.  I have compared Agilent triggers to Tek triggers but we don't want to go there.  I still have a TDS694C that triggers up to 3GHz with ease.

You could change the filters on the 500 MHz model and likely get usable or close to usable 1 GHz bandwidth. The only thing you'd still be missing is the fastest timebase.
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Re: DSOX2000 and 3000 series - licence , have anyone tried to hack that scope ?
« Reply #1767 on: December 12, 2017, 03:19:38 am »
That's pretty much what I was thinking.  Not going to do it though, may pick up a 500MHz unit after I assess my needs, and stick with that as I have faster scopes.

Not to shift gears here but I popped a new DSOXLAN into my new (NOS) 2000a scope.  Prints fine across the LAN but very disturbing to see the LAN "bugs".  The scope had 2.41 "upgrades" applied which worked fine (though "unfinalized" ...)

Attempts to change LAN settings each resulted in a "may take time to apply" message, and were never applied.

Reading the entire thread answered all questions.
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« Reply #1768 on: December 12, 2017, 04:13:32 am »
Interesting, ran the 2.41 uninstall cab and the LAN settings all work correctly.  The random information is gone.

What's up with that ?

Reading the entire thread answered all questions.
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Re: DSOX2000 and 3000 series - licence , have anyone tried to hack that scope ?
« Reply #1769 on: December 12, 2017, 12:16:14 pm »
LAN bugs is "normal" for this option of start scope. You need to patch infiniivisioncore.dll for kill this bug. As 2000 and 3000a series use same firmware, as I remember, you can use some receipt described in this topic for fix it. I wrote one some times ago for last 3000a FW.
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Re: DSOX2000 and 3000 series - licence , have anyone tried to hack that scope ?
« Reply #1770 on: December 12, 2017, 02:06:36 pm »
Thank you.  I've found prior references as you mention.
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« Reply #1771 on: December 16, 2017, 09:03:45 am »
On my system I have a WinCE Cab Manager 3 which I installed three years ago and used only one time then. Of course it has expired three years minus 30 days ago. Uninstall and Reinstall does not make a difference - it recognizes (even after deleting registry entries etc.) a preceding installation and will not work.

OCP Software, the creator of the WinCE Cab Manager does not exist anymore. So I dare to ask: does anybody have an idea how/where I can get a working version (probably this means hacked) of the WinCE Cab Manager 3?

If you have one, please copy to my dropbox here: https://www.dropbox.com/request/gXBLFQiV4J4YANQiyLZp
Thank you!

Edit: I received misc. versions/cracks now. No need to send more. A big 'Thank you' to Ricardo, Safar, Marsh, Mark and Andy! For anybody who had the same problem and who need the software only for a short time and not frequently: You may install the trial on a virtual Windows machine. If you need it for longer, you just set up a new virtual machine after 30 days.
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Re: DSOX2000 and 3000 series - licence , have anyone tried to hack that scope ?
« Reply #1772 on: December 17, 2017, 08:16:04 pm »
On my system I have a WinCE Cab Manager 3 which I installed three years ago and used only one time then. Of course it has expired three years minus 30 days ago. Uninstall and Reinstall does not make a difference - it recognizes (even after deleting registry entries etc.) a preceding installation and will not work.

OCP Software, the creator of the WinCE Cab Manager does not exist anymore. So I dare to ask: does anybody have an idea how/where I can get a working version (probably this means hacked) of the WinCE Cab Manager 3?

If you have one, please copy to my dropbox here: https://www.dropbox.com/request/gXBLFQiV4J4YANQiyLZp
Thank you!
Hi,

What purpose for? If you want compress/decompress, assemble/disassemble cab contains then I can advice GUI tools for this.

But if you want cab manager (Russian forum):
https://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=10659&st=320#entry2677275
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Re: DSOX2000 and 3000 series - licence , have anyone tried to hack that scope ?
« Reply #1773 on: December 18, 2017, 08:55:06 am »
I found this 4pdu.ru website of course, but all links are broken (I only get 404 notes, no matter which link I click on). Also the shown serials (and the ones somebody placed on the dropbox - thank you anyway) are not working with my 3.0.0.22
Anyway - I now installed my trial version in a virtual XP machine. So I have 30 days and if I need it again later I just set up a new virtual machine.
 
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Update to my previous post:

New version of the mod available for the 3000T Series - Tested on 3000XSeriesT.7.10.2017042905.ksx!
After a couple of PM's from Pinkus (thank you for the sparring!), I have modified the application to read the commands from a textfile for easy modification.
Futhermore the application will check for existing infiniivision.lnk and infiniiVisionLauncher.exe in the \Secure\Startup folder and delete if any, as to avoid a bootloop situation after a system update.
(I will advise to remove the mod prior to updating just to be safe, but anyway)

Also if no command.txt is found, a new will be created with a default option of "-l all".
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Feedback is greatly appreciated!

As always - Use it at your own risk!
REMOVED ATTACHMENT FOR REVISION OF README
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