Author Topic: REVIEW - Rigol DS2072 - First Impressions of the DS2000 series from Rigol  (Read 1091607 times)

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Offline drieg

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Can someone with 2072 and new software test this setup file..

This setup file gives a DS2072 a   2 nSec   timebase..

What's the matter, Wim - afraid you won't be able to downgrade?  ;)  That's the main question - and I haven't tried it yet; still hoping Drieg will answer the question before I take the risk  ;D  I suspect, because of the problems with the update procedure - that it's still possible to downgrade back to 05.

So far, I've seen two versions of DS2 bootloader and none of them was checking the firmware version, so if you use bootloader update method with HELP button, you should be able to downgrade. The bootloader remains unchanged after this FW uprade...

For the FW update itself - please use the bootloader method with HELP button described here.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2013, 03:30:50 pm by drieg »
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Maybe they disabled their RTC...  :palm:

You mean the clock for trial options?

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Oh, they have a different calendar.

Huh? How do you mean?

Doh! ...finally got the joke  :-[   ;D
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Updated (per marmad):  :scared:  :scared:

You should now have email fairymail  ;D
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the dance worked, thanks

Can someone with 2072 and new software test this setup file..

This setup file gives a DS2072 a   2 nSec   timebase..

It doesn't work on the new firmware. "File version doesn't support!".   

I guess kind of like  "All your bases are belong to us!"  >:D
 

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Re: Rigol Firmware update IS NOT RELEASED to the USA yet
« Reply #704 on: April 12, 2013, 03:26:03 pm »
Rick contacted Rigol N/A and the word is: Not released to the US yet 'It's coming around the World' and it may take up to 30 days before we see it. 

Well, I hate to break it to Rigol NA, but somehow it went from Australia to the EU to NA in 1 day.  ;D  I'm afraid all of us current owners (early adopters that we were) had been waiting too long already for this to wait anymore than a single day. If there had been a way to make it upgrade all of our DSOs simultaneously - we would have figured it out.  ;)
 

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Can someone with 2072 and new software test this setup file..

This setup file gives a DS2072 a   2 nSec   timebase..

It doesn't work on the new firmware. "File version doesn't support!".   

Well, honestly, it was being posted here exactly what was happening with the setup files (along with the files themselves) - what do you think? But still, if they have just altered the file system a bit, you might be able to do the same thing again.
 

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Firmware fairy has been here too!

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the dance worked, thanks

Can someone with 2072 and new software test this setup file..

This setup file gives a DS2072 a   2 nSec   timebase..

It doesn't work on the new firmware. "File version doesn't support!".   

I guess kind of like  "All your bases are belong to us!"  >:D

So then also your former setups, if ever used wont work anymore.
They changed the layout.

Did you use any setup files before, or other saved files, that wont work..??
 

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So then also your former setups, if ever used wont work anymore.
They changed the layout.

Did you use any setup files before, or other saved files, that wont work..??

Yes, they've changed the file structure for setup files. I tried loading a few different ones but it doesn't work. But, Wim, why don't you just upgrade and check it out? I'm sure you can downgrade after - when I insert FW 05 on a USB stick, the message on the screen says something like "Older firmware detected - Proceed to downgrade?"
 

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Saved picture looks like this now:
 

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So then also your former setups, if ever used wont work anymore.
They changed the layout.

Did you use any setup files before, or other saved files, that wont work..??

the 2ns one worked on the old fw. sorry I did not save any other setups.  If you have an old setup from 2072 I'd give it a try.
 

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Saved picture looks like this now:

Wow, I hadn't noticed that - and I even captured an image to crop the System Info box for the initial bug post. That seems kind of a weird change to me - I'll have to edit the code in RUU to clip that off the top.

Why would I want my serial number attached to an image I'm going to presumably show others? Stupid.
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Why would I want my serial number attached to an image I'm going to presumably show others? Stupid.

They could have put that info into Exif header like all the digital cameras do...
 

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Here is a new bug. I noticed that rise time and fall time are the same on the earlier picture. Here is picture saved with RUU. It is on track auto mode. It is still not possible to save on track manual mode either with this firmware.
 

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Well, they wrote back fast -

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Hi,
To answer your question, we are planning to add that later but not yet. I'd say that today we only post and notify customers of important updates. Smaller updates we supply on a request basis. At any time you can call/email in and get the latest from us as long as there is an appropriate new version.

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I installed back the old firmware. This rise time bug is so bad that I am waiting next update.  :( :-//
 

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Well, what's the problem with the rise time bug? I don't understand it...
OK, it is an auto measurement fail.  :--
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Well, what's the problem with the rise time bug? I don't understand it...

mine does not have this problem.  also it stopped printing S/N and time on top of the pictures

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I foolishly did a self-cal on my new Rigol DS2072.  I had thought that version .05 of the software (as shipped) fixed the losing the trial options bug, sadly reading back through this thread I discovered the bug is still there. 

Has a workaround been discovered to reenable the trials?  I think I still had over 2000 minutes left on them.  I have an email into Tequipment.net to see if they can be of any assistance.  Or am I just SOL?

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also it stopped printing S/N and time on top of the pictures

What caused it to stop - or - how many saves did you do before it stopped?
 

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I intalled back the new firmware. In the picture is antisymmetric ramp wave. Rise time and fall time are both 160 ns!  |O |O :-//
 

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I intalled back the new firmware. In the picture is antisymmetric ramp wave. Rise time and fall time are both 160 ns!  |O |O :-//

Yes, I confirmed the bug. I think the Rise time is actually just the Fall time repeated. In fact, if you chose either Rising Edge or Falling Edge with Auto cursor - it goes to the same edge.

It seems like it might be an easy bug to fix (pointer problem, etc) - I wonder if we can get Rigol to do it quickly?
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I closed the scope and started it again and now it works correctly!!!!  :-+ :-+ :-+
 

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I intalled back the new firmware. In the picture is antisymmetric ramp wave. Rise time and fall time are both 160 ns!  |O |O :-//

very strange, the only difference is that yours is 2202.  I've tried again and it shows different raise/fall.  Where does it place the markers if you switch to fall mode?

BTW, can you please post your 2ns setup file, I'll see if it works here with raise/fall times  ;) ;)



What caused it to stop - or - how many saves did you do before it stopped?

Didn't do anything. just powered off/on and no more header.  gremlins...
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I closed the scope and started it again and now it works correctly!!!!  :-+ :-+ :-+

That's no solution. I've had my DSO on and off several times since changing firmwares - and it's having the bug right now.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2013, 10:47:46 pm by marmad »
 


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