FLIR E4 Teardown Q/A and newbie questions

[Tinkerer]

I performed the hack on mine. If the IP you are putting into filezilla does not work, you need to go to network connections and check the IP assigned. In fact, just do that first. I tried using a specified IP and of course that didnt work for me. Finally I decided to check directly what ip it had been assigned and walla, it worked.
Another thing which wasnt apparent at first, you need to pop the battery in and out after you are done to get the hack to work.

[godfrey]

Thank you everyone who contributed to making this possible.

I installed everything on another computer and followed this video.

Everything worked flawlessly.  It has more options than my E60!  Resolution is significantly improved (obviously) and the menu hacks are phenomenal.


Thank you, thank you, thank you!


Cheers guys!


Phil

[Iphone_hack]

Thank you everyone who contributed to making this possible.

I installed everything on another computer and followed this video.

Everything worked flawlessly.  It has more options than my E60!  Resolution is significantly improved (obviously) and the menu hacks are phenomenal.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!


Cheers guys!


Phil

Hi guys
surprise i got my E4 today from my supply store, it took only 1 week!
my new E4 came with 1.22 and 1.1L

so i tried using the TIConfig tool but did not work. could not connect to the device.
so i use the same video that  godfrey use.
but i counter problem after i replace the hacked conf.cfc file my MXS was not working.
put the original file back the mxs came back
so i tried again from scratch, same thing mxs was not working.
then reading the youtube video comments, i had to use with the cfc_generator
after creating the file so much easier with the generator - first try
bingo!!!!! it was so much easier than typing the command prompt

i had to use filezilla to back up
can anyone tell me if i copy the FlashBFS and FlashFS folders to my computer is all i need for back up original files?
i only hack the resolution - i havent done the menu yet,
as i think it is easy to go back to original resolution in case i need to send for warranty (copy 1 file only).
Regarding menu hack, if after doing the hack is possible to go back to original?
is it just copy the original folder back - FlashBFS ?

also here i attached the before and after - big difference i love it
but can anyone tell me if it is my machine that have this problem?
hand pictures before and after same thing, thermal image fingers do not match the MSX fingers, seems higher location.
it was like that before the hack looking at the before picture.

thanks

PS: for anyone having problem connecting with filezilla try using 192.168.1.2
i connected mine with that number

[Tinkerer]

as i think it is easy to go back to original resolution in case i need to send for warranty

Does this actually void the warranty? You are changing a file, not opening it up.

[Iphone_hack]

as i think it is easy to go back to original resolution in case i need to send for warranty

Does this actually void the warranty? You are changing a file, not opening it up.

well changing the resolution (resolution hack) i dont think it will void the warranty
i am just changing 1 file
and if i need to get the warranty
i think can always put the original file back! so it will go back to the original resolution
as for the menu hack, that is what i am worry, i dont know who many files is changed and how to get it back to original. that is why i havent done it yet waiting for anyone having this information

[godfrey]

hand pictures before and after same thing, thermal image fingers do not match the MSX fingers, seems higher location.
it was like that before the hack looking at the before picture.

I'm not sure if the settings were changed through the hack, but you might be able to compensate it's overlay through the distance menu?  Not sure, honestly.  I never really even used that feature on my E60 and the parallax is even more out on that one due to the distance between the two imagers.

[scientist]

Absolute beginners should not be attempting to hack expensive military technology. If you're incapable of using a terminal you don't need a thermal camera.   

[godfrey]

Absolute beginners should not be attempting to heck expensive military technology. If you're incapable of using a terminal you don't need a thermal camera.

I can agree with that -- but I'm one of those types that assumes everyone else understands it just as easily as I do…and then get frustrated when I have to explain it over 9000 times.

I'm really impressed with the hack on the E4.  It saddens me that I spent what I did on my E60 before the hack was discovered.

[Iphone_hack]

hand pictures before and after same thing, thermal image fingers do not match the MSX fingers, seems higher location.
it was like that before the hack looking at the before picture.

I'm not sure if the settings were changed through the hack, but you might be able to compensate it's overlay through the distance menu?  Not sure, honestly.  I never really even used that feature on my E60 and the parallax is even more out on that one due to the distance between the two imagers.

Correct!

Thanks for the tip
But I found the setting after playing around with it for a while

[scientist]

it's really up to you.

[Fraser]

Posting removed at the request of a forum member 

[Bruiz668]

I need help. where do I get the tools1 and the addmenu-beta3 files in the video? thanks brian

[godfrey]

I need help. where do I get the tools1 and the addmenu-beta3 files in the video? thanks brian

I've uploaded the copy of tools1 and the beta3 that I have…you should find it below.

[DaveWB]

I need help. where do I get the tools1 and the addmenu-beta3 files in the video? thanks brian

All the links are in the description of the video

[Iphone_hack]

Does anyone know if I order another E4 tomorrow is going to be 1.22?
Worry if they upgraded the fw

[KMIN]

IPhone_hack, I was I was just chatting with Tequipment and they were confirming me twice that all their E4 have the newest firmware 1.22 which cannot be hacked!
Did you ask your seller about that?
I was going to place an order but got confused.

[Fraser]

There does seem to be some odd information coming from Tequipment, such as the FW 1.22.2 that they said was coming in, yet never appeared. Personally I would order from a company that confirms FW 1.22.0

[KMIN]

So, I was chatting with another person in Tequipment, who confirmed me the fw is 1.22.0.
No changes in past weeks.
Maybe the first guy didn't  argee hacking...

[joe-c]

Maybe the first guy didn't  argee hacking...

Maybe the first guy with some E8's in stock, which sold to late and with too much price drop.

[Iphone_hack]

IPhone_hack, I was I was just chatting with Tequipment and they were confirming me twice that all their E4 have the newest firmware 1.22 which cannot be hacked!
Did you ask your seller about that?
I was going to place an order but got confused.

I ordered another one today, my local store don't stock them, they are coming from Ontario.
So he can't tell what firmware.
But I order my first E4 on May 1st, got it in 1 week. Calibration date for the E4 was April 28 1.1L 1.22 and I was able to upgrade the resolution. I didn't upgrade the menu as I thought it is only 1 file that was replace so in case that I need warranty I just replace the original file back.
If doing the menu upgrade, it seems in order to go back to original condition is more complicated.
I am a little worry on what firmware it will be for the new E4.

[Iphone_hack]

Hi
when I connect my E4 to my laptop using flir tools, I see the live streaming is grey out.
I searched on the net that the flir tools+ can live stream the E4 with laptop.
is there any other way to live stream to laptop? or only flir tools+ (need to pay for that version right?)

thanks

[PLUMMER]

Thanks in a huge way, from a plumber that's always wanted a TIC.  I've read quite a bit if the original 336 page thread , so I apologize if I missed it.

Currently reading every post and thread on the E4, can I do the mods with a Mac?

Possibly someone in MI that's doing these for members? I'm willing to cover professional services. I just don't like online purchases of this type and price range. In person kinda old schooler.
Flir doesn't seem to have a dealer locator. Been searching for days and calling supply houses. Even my graingers are out.

Again a huge thanks for the knowledge sharing here.

Editing post as I go so as to not ask the all repetitive ?'s if possible.

[Iphone_hack]

Hi guys
How often does E4 needs to be calibrated by flir?
If hacked, can it still be calibrated?

Thanks

[Fraser]

The E4 is entry level kit. To be honest its calibration is not that important to my usage, but I would not be thinking of calibrating it anyway. It is not temperature stabilised and aging is not normally a big issue for the modern microbolometer's. If exact calibration is a concern to an owner, they really should be looking at a more up market camera.

With regard to FLIR's view of an upgraded camera...... they are unlikely to want anything to do with it. I have no proof, but I suspect they will refuse to calibrate such a camera as it is working outside of their original specification,n and you would be 'rubbing their nose in it' somewhat by sending such a camera to them ! If you were unlucky they would install new firmware which is a normal element of FLIR calibration.

In short.... the E4 is spec'd at +-2% or +-2 Degreec C (whichever is greater). That is a spec at 30 Degrees C. It has been proven to produce errors greater than this at other scene temperatures. Super accurate it is not. Suggest you forget calibration on an upgraded camera unless you want to do it yourself as some have done to improve the units accuracy Ex Factory.

Aurora

[Iphone_hack]

The E4 is entry level kit. To be honest its calibration is not that important to my usage, but I would not be thinking of calibrating it anyway. It is not temperature stabilised and aging is not normally a big issue for the modern microbolometer's. If exact calibration is a concern to an owner, they really should be looking at a more up market camera.

With regard to FLIR's view of an upgraded camera...... they are unlikely to want anything to do with it. I have no proof, but I suspect they will refuse to calibrate such a camera as it is working outside of their original specification,n and you would be 'rubbing their nose in it' somewhat by sending such a camera to them ! If you were unlucky they would install new firmware which is a normal element of FLIR calibration.

In short.... the E4 is spec'd at +-2% or +-2 Degreec C (whichever is greater). That is a spec at 30 Degrees C. It has been proven to produce errors greater than this at other scene temperatures. Super accurate it is not. Suggest you forget calibration on an upgraded camera unless you want to do it yourself as some have done to improve the units accuracy Ex Factory.

Aurora

Thanks for a very informed reply
I was thinking the same way
But just of curiosity
How many guys here decided to buy an E4 for work because of the hack
Example building inspector, heating/cooling contractor, or maintainance contractor ?
I guess it is common sense To double check or confirm any problem findings with another tool
But will you be worry if end up in court, even the device is ok but it is hacked