Fluke 87V (2017) lacking quality control?

[Osirison]

The resistor on the left is from a different manufacturer.

Yeah you got those brown carbon type resistors, also underneath the fuse.
Also the diode looks different.

[PowerNet]

What is the built month/year ?
firmware version ?
and the board version ? latest is 13 ?

all for the above two meters.

thanks

[Electro Detective]

The internals look OK but it's weird that that plastic around the input jacks is grey. Usually it's red.

(also there's a dirty black mark on it)

Looks like an olive or mushroom stain, 
eating pizza or special flied lice on the job during 'lunch break' at the Tu Hung Lo assembly line ?

[PowerNet]

The internals look OK but it's weird that that plastic around the input jacks is grey. Usually it's red.

(also there's a dirty black mark on it)

Looks like an olive or mushroom stain, 
eating pizza or special flied lice on the job during 'lunch break' at the Tu Hung Lo assembly line ?

or eating fish and chips while barely surviving on centrelink payments ? 

[Electro Detective]

They have Centrerink over there too?   

 

[P90]

They have Centrerink over there too?   

 

It's counterfeit

[Fungus]

Looks like an olive or mushroom stain, 

So... made in the USA then? The Chinese workers certainly won't be eating Pizza.

[BMack]

I don't have any pics of the inside of my 87Vs but my Bussman fuses(Newer labels?) look like Wytnucls' fuses. I also have red plastic on the jack holder. Both have "Made in USA" on the holster. One has "Made in USA" and the other has "Made in USA of U.S. and non U.S. parts" on the back cover.

[Fungus]

Maybe the grey plastic is a quick visual check for the Fluke police to know the country of origin.

eg. There may be a cheaper "China-only" version of the meter that some grey importers are exporting them to the rest of the world.

If that's the case then I'm sure Fluke would like to know where you got this from. I'd email Fluke and show them a picture.

Either way:
a) It doesn't change the fact that this is just bad luck and you should get a replacement.
b) The only difference will be OEM price. There's no way Fluke would compromise their flagship meter by making an inferior version of it. If it were different inside they'd put a different model number on the front.

eg. The Fluke 15B/17B were originally "China-only"models but turned out to be perfectly good meters. 100% Fluke, just not officially sold in the USA.

(has this situation changed? Fluke now lists them on their main web site as well as Fluke Asia).

[czorzella]

It is all a matter of trust!

Fluke built its reputation based on excellent products being manufactured in USA and sold through reliable sources; Nowadays, all this has changed and we have to deal with situation where we don't know if their products that are being made in other locations are still good and if the sources from where we purchase Fluke equipment, are whether reliable or a fake product.

Carlos

[Fungus]

It is all a matter of trust!

Fluke built its reputation based on excellent products being manufactured in USA and sold through reliable sources; Nowadays, all this has changed and we have to deal with situation where we don't know if their products that are being made in other locations are still good and if the sources from where we purchase Fluke equipment, are whether reliable or a fake product.

You know they still put "Made in USA" on the USA made ones, right?

Meanwhile, the non-Xenophobes get a discount price on the exact same meter.

[czorzella]

It is all a matter of trust!

Fluke built its reputation based on excellent products being manufactured in USA and sold through reliable sources; Nowadays, all this has changed and we have to deal with situation where we don't know if their products that are being made in other locations are still good and if the sources from where we purchase Fluke equipment, are whether reliable or a fake product.

You know they still put "Made in USA" on the USA made ones, right?

Meanwhile, the non-Xenophobes get a discount price on the exact same meter.

Most of the people buy online these days; how do I know for sure that I'll receive one that is made in USA?

Carlos

[Osirison]

It is all a matter of trust!

Fluke built its reputation based on excellent products being manufactured in USA and sold through reliable sources; Nowadays, all this has changed and we have to deal with situation where we don't know if their products that are being made in other locations are still good and if the sources from where we purchase Fluke equipment, are whether reliable or a fake product.

You know they still put "Made in USA" on the USA made ones, right?

Meanwhile, the non-Xenophobes get a discount price on the exact same meter.

Most of the people buy online these days; how do I know for sure that I'll receive one that is made in USA?

Carlos

Because they mentioned it on their website you would expect this to be for every 87v multimeter.
"Designed and built in the U.S.A."
http://en-us.fluke.com/products/digital-multimeters/fluke-87v-digital-multimeter.html#overview

[Fungus]

Most of the people buy online these days; how do I know for sure that I'll receive one that is made in USA?

The same way you do everything else in life - you communicate.

Ask, "Can you confirm this is made in USA? I'm only interested in buying a USA-built meter".

You go with the seller that answers promptly and gives a good vibe.

Pay with a method that allows reclaim, reclaim if it arrives and isn't USA-built. Let seller pay return shipping if he wants it back.


(Second: Admit to yourself that you're buying a luxury item that's going to last a long time. A good seller is making a special effort on your behalf so they deserve the extra $20 over the rock-bottom seller. Everybody wins in the long-term).

[P90]

It is all a matter of trust!

Fluke built its reputation based on excellent products being manufactured in USA and sold through reliable sources; Nowadays, all this has changed and we have to deal with situation where we don't know if their products that are being made in other locations are still good and if the sources from where we purchase Fluke equipment, are whether reliable or a fake product.

You know they still put "Made in USA" on the USA made ones, right?

Meanwhile, the non-Xenophobes get a discount price on the exact same meter.

  China also puts "Made in USA" "Made in Japan" etc. on a lot of things... it's hard to tell these days if a product is genuine...
Just look at some counterfeit Hakko stations as an example...

[Electro Detective]

'TRUST' left the building a few years ago, and never returned

Taken by aliens is one theory 

devoured by psychopath neanderthal investors is another 

OP should get a refund and get a real deal MADE IN USA labelled Fluke 87V that's actually MADE IN USA (aka North America?)

not some offshore place called 'USA' for the duration of a production run

OP has work to get on with,
and better things to do than tolerate getting flukked around by a once reputable company
that's grabbed the cash,

hoping no one will notice the half baked product. 

[Electro Detective]

Fair enough, so then is it possible Fluke themselves are behind the shoddy 'save a buck, yellow meter addicts will still buy it'     87V 

-MADE IN BEST GUESS COUNTRY-   

that isn't even switched on for a basic function check at the end of the assembly line...   

OP Osirison should send them the labour bill for time wasted doing it for them !    

[Fungus]

OP should get a refund and get a real deal MADE IN USA labelled Fluke 87V that's actually MADE IN USA (aka North America?)

not some offshore place called 'USA' for the duration of a production run

OP has work to get on with,
and better things to do than tolerate getting flukked around by a once reputable company
that's grabbed the cash,

hoping no one will notice the half baked product. 

Haters gonna hate (and this one's not even American!)

Are you sure all the parts inside the "Made in USA" meter were made in the USA? Did they make the PCB and chipset in the USA? How about the resistors and safety-MOVs? Were they made in the USA? 

(...and where was your PC & Phone made? Did you demand they were made in the USA, too?)

[Electro Detective]

LOL, you're MISSING the point somehow 

My PC, phone, and toilet seat are made in some overseas factory, assembly line or back burbs sweat shoppe,

that I am fully aware of and accept (aka take it or leave it),

but at least they have enough integrity and pride (remember that stuff?) to not FALSELY stamp their wares as -MADE IN USA-

and charge -MADE IN USA- prices on top, regardless of whether the components were made, be it China, Mexico, or Mars.

I'm a long time fan of certain Fluke products 

but I won't be deceived by any company's BS when they drift south as they have done in OPs case


"Haters gonna hate (and this one's not even American!)"

Hater of BS and product deception?            GUILTY   as   **** !    Aussie Style 

[Fungus]

but at least they have enough integrity and pride (remember that stuff?) to not FALSELY stamp their wares as -MADE IN USA-

Aaaaand ... who's doing that, exactly?

The meter in question in this thread is clearly not stamped "Made in USA".



Compare with:

Hater of BS and product deception?            GUILTY   as   **** !    Aussie Style 

Deception?

It actually says "Made in USA of US and non US parts" on the back. Show me another manufacturer who even does that.

[Electro Detective]

I don't see "Made in USA of US and non US parts" on the back of OPs meter 

who paid TOP DOLLAR for a half assed meter no one checked at the finishing line to confirm ALL functions WORKING

before shipping it out from WHO REALLY KNOWS WHERE 

If that's not deception, then there must be a new word for it not in the dictionary yet

[tooki]

Oh my god. Everyone is flipping their lid here, but do we have anything even distantly approaching proof that Fluke is now manufacturing the 87V in China? All I can see here is a declaration of origin on a reseller invoice, but given how often resellers make egregious mistakes in their metadata, I hardly take this as gospel!

Given that Fluke is still advertising the 87V as designed and manufactured in USA, and thus opening them up to massive liability if that were untrue, I'm tending to think that something less sinister is going on here.

In any case, we shouldn't be inventing rumors and then treating them as undisputed fact.

How about the OP contact Fluke with their serial number and ask??

[Fungus]

I don't see "Made in USA of US and non US parts" on the back of OPs meter 

Ummm... that's what's been observed, yes. Well done.

who paid TOP DOLLAR for a half assed meter no one checked at the finishing line to confirm ALL functions WORKING

Who received a faulty meter (which happens occasionally no matter what the quality control...)

before shipping it out from WHO REALLY KNOWS WHERE

Not you, that's for sure.

In any case, we shouldn't be inventing rumors and then treating them as undisputed fact.

How about the OP contact Fluke with their serial number and ask??

Oh, look! Somebody with a brain!!

[Electro Detective]

Oh my god. Everyone is flipping their lid here, but do we have anything even distantly approaching proof that Fluke is now manufacturing the 87V in China? All I can see here is a declaration of origin on a reseller invoice, but given how often resellers make egregious mistakes in their metadata, I hardly take this as gospel!

Given that Fluke is still advertising the 87V as designed and manufactured in USA, and thus opening them up to massive liability if that were untrue, I'm tending to think that something less sinister is going on here.

In any case, we shouldn't be inventing rumors and then treating them as undisputed fact.

How about the OP contact Fluke with their serial number and ask??

Who is going to sue Fluke if they have been Flukking around anyway?

They will buy out the plaintiffs legal firm with small change in their HQ piggy bank, before the plaintiffs parents and uncles sell their houses too,

to finance their 'case'  at a kangaroo court... located thousands of miles away from Australia 

[Fungus]

Which part of "Fluke is a reputation-driven company" are you failing to understand?