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Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« on: October 30, 2014, 01:48:06 PM »
I was wondering if Fluke is working on a new meter that would replace 87V... new design... ??

I have feeling that it would be based on Fluke 28, with different specs...

 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2017, 11:21:45 AM »
2017 and still 87v
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2017, 11:30:20 AM »
Likely internal development continues; replacement for something as iconic as the 87 series will only be incremental. Remember, the 87IV was very poorly received; eventually morphed into the 89IV and gained some acceptance.
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2017, 12:23:39 PM »
I like it beside the display being so dim which is close to being unusable
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2017, 12:39:51 PM »
Hows the Fluke 28II compared to this ? i know its same meter but is it a good idea to have these two metres ?

Im thinking of buying another 87V, I like use of 9v batt and slimline of the 87V.

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2017, 02:42:53 PM »
Hows the Fluke 28II compared to this ? i know its same meter but is it a good idea to have these two metres ?
It is the same meter in terms of most of its functionality and specs, but pcb layout wise, the 28 II is clearly more cleanly laid out. If the same price, I would choose the Fluke 28 II myself.
 
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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2017, 03:10:43 PM »
Funny herein oz the 28 selling for around $800 yet the 87 is $1200
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2017, 03:33:17 PM »
I have the 27II, which is almost identical to 28II (and a few 87Vs).. 27II/28II is a tank. It's really kind of overkill unless you work outdoors or in industrial environment. 87V being smaller is much more pleasant to work with, on your day to day bench type work for instance.
 
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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2017, 03:45:42 PM »
Why do we need a successor? What is lacking in the 87V?
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2017, 03:52:00 PM »
Hows the Fluke 28II compared to this ? i know its same meter but is it a good idea to have these two metres ?

Im thinking of buying another 87V, I like use of 9v batt and slimline of the 87V.

regards,

87V is not a cheap meter, and for that money, maybe you can have some fun with other top of the line meters, maybe a Keysight new U1273?
I certainly enjoy my 2 meters from 2 manufacturers as I don't feel confident with products from a single manufacturer -- if there is any stupidity found in the design, you get both wrong results confirming each other.
And I'm not hesitating having a third meter. Looking forward to Dave's GW121, and if I can save up a bit more, maybe Gossen's 6.5 digit king of handheld DMM.
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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2017, 04:14:30 PM »
Why do we need a successor? What is lacking in the 87V?

Easy: The ability to default to DC mode on current ranges.

(You could have asked the same thing about the 87, the 87II, the 87III, the 87IV but Fluke obviously thought of something to improve...)

« Last Edit: May 17, 2017, 05:50:30 PM by Fungus »
 
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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2017, 04:20:32 PM »
Get a 187/189 then. It has all current modes on the rotary.
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2017, 06:04:54 PM »
Get a 187/189 then. It has all current modes on the rotary.


Its discontinued product according to Fluke.
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2017, 06:53:32 PM »
Get a 187/189 then. It has all current modes on the rotary.


Its discontinued product according to Fluke.

289 can remember AC/DC setup even after reboot. It also offers dual display, so you can use it to display AC and DC components separately.
It also has higher basic accuracy than 87V, 87V is rated 0.05%+1dgt, 289 is rated 0.025%+2dgt if my memory serves me correctly.
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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2017, 07:41:04 PM »
The 289 is literally a battery monster. It runs approximately 20 hours.
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2017, 07:52:15 PM »
The 289 is literally a battery monster. It runs approximately 20 hours.

Nope, you got a badly leaked internal capacitor that eats up the battery power.
 
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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2017, 08:02:19 PM »
You say that like it is a common failure?
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2017, 08:09:11 PM »
You say that like it is a common failure?

For old model of 287 or 289, check this giant thread and read the details -> Fluke 189 with leaking surface mount supercap (also Fluke 287, Fluke 289)

But the latest 28X versions, check the last few posts from that thread, it looks like Fluke modified it and now they're using battery instead of super cap.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2017, 08:10:59 PM by BravoV »
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2017, 08:10:23 PM »
You say that like it is a common failure?

Not every one leaks electricity, but almost all f289 leak some chemical from its super cap.

It is not particularly corrosive and fluke recommend to leave it alone. There is a thread for leaky 289 cap.
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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2017, 08:18:49 PM »
Looks like I'll be staying away from it then.

 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2017, 08:23:04 PM »
Funny herein oz the 28 selling for around $800 yet the 87 is $1200
The $1200 is for the kit, but even by itself, the Fluke 87-V by itself costs around $950-1000.

I got the Fluke 28-II entirely because of the price difference, and I got a more rugged meter in the lot.
The only thing I don't like about the Fluke 28-II is the diode tester that only goes up to 2.0V, but this is not a difficult thing to work around.

It would have been nice if they actually put the bloody manual (there is a "refer to manual" note on the back after all), and an actual magnetic hanger in it, as opposed to just a picture of the hanger.
 
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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2017, 09:36:49 PM »
289 can remember AC/DC setup even after reboot. It also offers dual display, so you can use it to display AC and DC components separately.
It also has higher basic accuracy than 87V, 87V is rated 0.05%+1dgt, 289 is rated 0.025%+2dgt if my memory serves me correctly.

Imo, as I own both, 28x (287 or 289) is not the same league compared to 87V, as 28X will take a while to boot, not long though, like 2 or 3 seconds, while 87V is instantaneously ready to serve once you turned it on.

Also the 28X display, as its graphical LCD, the contrast and the "blackness" (or darkness  ???) of the lcd segments just can not beat 87V.

Feature wise, if you don't need graphical chart, logging and etc, 28X is overkill, and also size wise, holding 28X feel like a big brick, compared to 87V that feels more compact, this photo should be clear enough to show what I mean.

 
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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2017, 09:40:28 PM »
Very nice comparasion.
 

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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2017, 10:51:07 PM »
The 28II was marketed as the 87V 'successor'

http://support.fluke.com/find-sales/Download/Asset/3821028_0000_ENG_A_W.PDF

Functionally identical except for the physical hardening, the 28 is bigger and heavier.
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Re: Fluke 87V successor from Fluke?
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2017, 11:10:06 PM »
I have both meters 87 V and 28 II.
Both good meters but I bet go with 28 II better bet ..MAYBE depends
87 V bit more accurate but 28 II  IP67  rated.......... its a tough call
Battery change out way better with 87 V than 28 II
Easier door/battery removal
Also 28 II much bigger, thicker in hand
Lot like 287 pic'd above.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2017, 11:12:15 PM by tyreman1 »
 


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