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Offline Shock

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Fluke Fluff
« on: May 17, 2018, 11:54:30 am »
Finally got my two "ultimate" (LOL) bench meters, so it's time to move up in the world.

After some prolonged Ebay trawling, (in US dollars) came to $120 for both combined. Total savings of approx $890 and shipping buying them new here. I did trade another Fluke as part of the deal which saved $30 or so.

A lot of rubbing former owners grime off the Fluke 87V restored it. The Fluke 117 ended up being as best as I can tell, brand new.

The deals I passed on were two Fluke 87Vs at around $160 each, two dirt cheap Fluke 117s one which was practically free but the seller scared me off.

The golden missed deal of the century, a sub $100 Fluke 289 that had a poor listing (owner replaced it with some cheap meter because the Fluke 289 was too fancy). A couple of years ago I hesitated and missed out on another "buy it now" expensive Fluke.

So now in true EEVblog fashion I will say all Chinese brand meters are junk and you're wasting your money. Joking, but after seriously sampling the secondhand Fluke market and buying over a dozen Flukes under $30 each (20 and 70 series) and some slightly more expensive 110 series it redefines wasting $100 on a Chinese brand when there's plenty of secondhand deals around.


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Re: Fluke Fluff
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2018, 12:22:38 pm »
After some prolonged Ebay trawling, (in US dollars) came to $120 for both combined.
That is an excellent deal.

When the Canadian dollar was par with the US dollar and USPS shipping rates were reasonable, I would buy broken Fluke meters for under $20 USD.  Sometimes I would get a good deal on a working meter for under $100 like a Fluke 87V or 18x.

But those days are long gone and I haven't look on ebay in nearly 3 or 4 years now.
 

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Re: Fluke Fluff
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2018, 12:53:59 pm »
That is an excellent deal.

When the Canadian dollar was par with the US dollar and USPS shipping rates were reasonable, I would buy broken Fluke meters for under $20 USD.  Sometimes I would get a good deal on a working meter for under $100 like a Fluke 87V or 18x.

But those days are long gone and I haven't look on ebay in nearly 3 or 4 years now.

I did exactly the same. When the US exchange rate returned to normal and shipping prices went up it made things a little sad.  I have a bit of a workaround in place for shipping now (I do my own) which makes it a little less expensive.

The Fluke 117 is really just because it has LoZ and Voltalert which is a bit extravagant. I've got two Uni-T 71Ds for logging and my shelf queens are two Keithley 179s. Plus I'm keeping spare sets of Fluke 27/FMs for voltage/current monitoring.

I'm not really compelled to have a billion features on a handheld DMM nor digits but may just upgrade the Keithleys next. Sort of a work in progress like everyones bench I guess.

I feel a purge coming though, as I'm expanding to critical mass. It's like keeping children from a former marriage, you know you love them but they are occupying all the rooms.

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Re: Fluke Fluff
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2018, 08:37:17 pm »

Those two Flukes as a tag team should cover just about any task you can dump on them,
from electronics to electricals, vehicle analytics and audio, without breaking a sweat

The other meters will soon collect dust after you've gotten familiar with what this dynamic duo can do, and rarely question the digits displayed

FWIW, the Continuity/buzzer and Min Max modes on these are killa, the AutoHOLD on the 87V is addictive...

and speaking from experience you will need a 289 to complete the Trilogy... when the wallet recovers  :phew:


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Re: Fluke Fluff
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2018, 10:14:59 pm »
FWIW, the Continuity/buzzer and Min Max modes on these are killa, the AutoHOLD on the 87V is addictive...
and speaking from experience you will need a 289 to complete the Trilogy... when the wallet recovers  :phew:

Thanks I'll do some comparisons. I've only played with the Fluke 87V a little so far and need to sit down with it. I was quite impressed with the DC mV range, forget what I was doing at the time, watching a circuit discharge or something exciting like that hahah.

Yeah I want, I've been coveting the Fluke 287 BravoV and the Fluke 289 Shahriar has as I keep seeing images of them.

Something I do have though now is a Fluke 98B Series II Scopemeter in the repair pile. It's a bit of an oddball scope but the price was a giveaway. I'm hoping it's a supply problem, my preliminary testing seemed to indicate it's having issues drawing startup current.

Here is a photo another user posted of his in mint condition. I did get most of the case candy with my Fluke 98B but it will need some TLC to get it this sparkly.



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Re: Fluke Fluff
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2018, 10:24:10 pm »
There are definitely bargains out there on the flukes. I’ve bought a 289, 381, 233, 1587FC (new in box), 724 and then a 725(new in box but 6 years old). All up it’s cost around 2 grand.

Each meter has its specific use and application in my line of work. Most of them can’t be matched easily with cheapies. A mate has a Fluke 28 ex (got it for a similar price to the standard 28 on eBay) and that’s a solid meter.
 

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Re: Fluke Fluff
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2018, 12:27:12 am »
There are definitely bargains out there on the flukes. I’ve bought a 289, 381, 233, 1587FC (new in box), 724 and then a 725(new in box but 6 years old). All up it’s cost around 2 grand.

Each meter has its specific use and application in my line of work. Most of them can’t be matched easily with cheapies. A mate has a Fluke 28 ex (got it for a similar price to the standard 28 on eBay) and that’s a solid meter.

Nice set of meters, I'll have to pretend for now my Fluke 27/FMs are like your mates Fluke 28 II Ex ;). My whole workshop is probably the same price as that meter alone.

You reminded me with your clamp meter, I have a Fluke 322 for repair with a display issue that needs scoping and a few Fluke Y8100 Current Probes to restore which might be useful for something.

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Re: Fluke Fluff
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2018, 08:11:21 am »

Fluke Y8100 Current Probe is well worth having for just about any DC and AC and AC+DC current task up to 1 khz with a multimeter or oscilloscope  :clap:

I have one calibrated and stored away for those jobs a general purpose clamp meter just won't do

Owners + Cal Manual: http://assets.fluke.com/manuals/Y8100___imeng0200.pdf


BIG TIP: Remove the batteries after each use, especially the jizz prone batteries made today, regardless of price and feelgood brand rep (bunnies and drummer boy marketing BS etc)

...you have been warned   :scared:

 

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Re: Fluke Fluff
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2018, 08:27:47 am »

...A mate has a Fluke 28 EX (got it for a similar price to the standard 28 on eBay) and that’s a solid meter.



There is a recall on these meters   :-DMM

If your mate's is affected, they'll fix or replace it free afaik.  Check the serial number at the websites below.

http://www.productsafety.gov.au/recall/fluke-corporation-fluke-28iiex

http://www.fluke.com/fluke/auen/support/Safety/28-II-EX-Recall.htm


btw, I'm the bloke who emails Ebayers about it whenever I spot them, and so far about 60 to 70% were affected
Needless to say I get a big thank you [gratitude junkie alert!  8) ] and said replaced items get re-listed and sold without unaware issues, so it's a win win for everyone   :clap: :clap:
and one less headache and worry for Fluke having suss meters handballed around   :phew:   



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Re: Fluke Fluff
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2018, 02:24:25 pm »
Ok it appears I have another new old multimeter (I know right?), needs a little TLC but is operational.
Wondering if it's even worth messing with. Anyone know which model in the 80s series this is?



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Re: Fluke Fluff
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2018, 04:01:18 pm »
FWIW, the Continuity/buzzer and Min Max modes on these are killa, the AutoHOLD on the 87V is addictive...

You're right, I tested the continuity on the Fluke 87V and it's very quick to beep.
The Fluke 117 seems fast as well but the bar display seems slightly quicker on the 87V.

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Re: Fluke Fluff
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2018, 06:19:56 pm »
FWIW, the Continuity/buzzer and Min Max modes on these are killa, the AutoHOLD on the 87V is addictive...

You're right, I tested the continuity on the Fluke 87V and it's very quick to beep.
The Fluke 117 seems fast as well but the bar display seems slightly quicker on the 87V.

Clean the sockets, plugs, probe tips on both meters and enjoy real deal speed    8)
The Fluke 189 is the quickest I've come across (it has a bird chirp instead of beep)  but the 87V is like only a hair behind in the race  :clap:
If you want to get some serious troubleshoot trace work done quickly, look no further than what you have 

The meter above looks like an 83, 85 or 87, the first series, hard to tell which of the three   :-//
It should have top notch performance too, and IIRC a bit more responsive than the 117
and if it gives you any grief, loads of posts here about fixing them

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Re: Fluke Fluff
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2018, 08:03:18 pm »
Clean the sockets, plugs, probe tips on both meters and enjoy real deal speed    8)
The Fluke 189 is the quickest I've come across (it has a bird chirp instead of beep)  but the 87V is like only a hair behind in the race  :clap:
If you want to get some serious troubleshoot trace work done quickly, look no further than what you have 

I gave the Fluke 87V the clean from hell when I got it, the sockets were clogged. The Fluke 117 is immaculate I think it's probably been only used half a dozen times.

They are both very fast, probe tip cleaning makes a huge difference, it's a pity the bananas are harder. They could benefit from a comparative accuracy/calibration check though. I might line up a few and see who is the odd one out.

The meter above looks like an 83, 85 or 87, the first series, hard to tell which of the three   :-//
It should have top notch performance too, and IIRC a bit more responsive than the 117
and if it gives you any grief, loads of posts here about fixing them

Couldn't tell from photos so I tore it down, with the cover off I can faintly see it's a Fluke 87. So apparently I have two now. Random, as I wasn't really trying for a second but pulled the trigger on the price (rather than the model). I think you're right it looks like the first series and I can see photos with Fluke 87s with blue buttons.

Is there any other way to tell the model without reading the label on this series?

While it was apart I checked the fuses, it seems to zero out ok. Another filthy one, I am not in love with it at all.

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Re: Fluke Fluff
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2018, 08:07:40 pm »
Next aim ... Fluke 189 ... duck&cover&run ....  :scared:
 

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Re: Fluke Fluff
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2018, 08:12:05 pm »
Next aim ... Fluke 189 ... duck&cover&run ....  :scared:

Whats better Fluke 180 series or 280 series, and which model?

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Re: Fluke Fluff
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2018, 08:21:06 pm »
Whats better Fluke 180 series or 280 series, and which model?

Well, for me as I own 287 (similar to 289) and 189, word better is subjective as 28X series is more for logging meter with high accuracy, graphic display for log view & deep memory, while 189 ... subjectively of course, to me is the most versatile daily use grab meter as it boots really fast (hate 28X boot time) and with a really sharp & contrast LCD display compared to 28X, also feature wise is really good too especially for electronics instead of electrician work like 87X does. And 18X models use 4 AA cells.  :-+

The 28X models are the successor of 18X which is discontinued.

Used Fluke 189 which I scored while ago.



Size comparisons between this popular Fluke models => 87V 189 287.

BBB .. the Beauty, the Beast and the Brick.  :-DD
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Re: Fluke Fluff
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2018, 01:41:03 am »
BBB .. the Beauty, the Beast and the Brick.  :-DD

That's not a brick, this is a brick!
Might be too extravagant in the immediate future. I wouldn't know where to put all the numbers on those big displays.


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Re: Fluke Fluff
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2018, 05:34:49 am »
I've had my Fluke 87V/117 pair for going on 4 years now.  They compliment each other nicely.

I got the 117 when my old Craftsman died.  I knew nothing about meters or electronics in general at the time except that Fluke was supposed to be good.  Then I saw Dave's review of the 117 (the first EEVBlog video I ever watched) and heard him say that my shiny new meter was useless for electronics.

"Well shit, what does this crazy Australian think is a good electronics meter?"

I eventually found his 87V review, bought one, and subsequently fell into the electronics hobbyist rabbit hole from which I've yet to emerge.

Thanks a lot, Dave.    ;)
 

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Re: Fluke Fluff
« Reply #18 on: Yesterday at 03:52:24 am »
there was an eBay guide to flukes.  one of eBay regulars wrote it. if I recall right, series 1 and series 2 have the lightning bolt, series 3 is when they started listing cat rating. find that guide, very useful.
 

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Re: Fluke Fluff
« Reply #19 on: Yesterday at 10:51:46 am »
Next aim ... Fluke 189 ... duck&cover&run ....  :scared:

Whats better Fluke 180 series or 280 series, and which model?


189 and 289 have all the bells and whistles, including a 100khz AC bandwidth  :clap: 
but plagued with the internal supercRapacitor fail fiasco that's been posted here (not a total deal breaker btw, just a HASSLE you don't need from a flagship $Fluke$)

289 needs the latest/last firmware update to sort some light issues with the exposed top plastic communication thingie IIRC,
after that good to go. Some leads can be annoying tight in the 289 sockets  :horse: 
so select a pair that slot in and out without having to text/msg and call in favors from The Hulk :rant:   

187 and 287 have a feature or two less you may or may not need, and I think/believe/assume  no  internal supercRapacitor to deal with

For on board graph based visual logging without drama, the 289 is hard to beat for what it is,
the 189 has a more basic logging system too, simple but gets the job done,
both meters can dump/view their logging onto a computer which I haven't played with yet     


BTW The 18x/28x are meters you do not want to get wet or drop hard**, loan or advertise  :-DMM :-DMM  on a job site, unless your insurance covers that   >:D


**get a 28-11 for that :-+


Lastly, the 180/280 meters require more juice and take AA batteries, and you can take it to the bank they WILL leak if not checked

This is where the 87 meters shine, with a 'less likely to leak' 9 volt battery, in it's own compartment 


If you're happy with the 87 meters, think hard before blowing cash on the uppity models, unless you have a use for their features and 100khz AC bandwidth

The 87V and 87-1 series do a respectable 14 khz anyway, gently rolling off to 20khz (depending on voltage and frequency etc)   



 


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