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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #500 on: March 17, 2018, 06:40:48 pm »
Thank you all!
The unit was successful updated from 7.7 to 8.1 and then to 8.5a.
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #501 on: April 06, 2018, 06:02:55 pm »
Hello to all ,
received SSA3021X few days ago, came with 1.2.8.5a . date 3/17/2018  on system files. iv looked over this thread and don't know if iv overlooked something or I have found something.  on unit itself if you go to file system keep hitting back then switch to Dir. and keep hitting open/load until complete file system of unit is shown. was able to copy and past most relevant files needed for hacking to 3032X.  I continued to back up everything as instructions say. but when it came to renaming files I was able to do so on unit GUI , not on putty/telnet.   I noticed that depending on the sequence of opening firmdat0 it was in rw mode, allowing me to change following files structure to include an (x).   even with all this I still synced it through putty . I was able to run side/byside and preform needed changes. is this something new or did I miss something in this thread.

anyways ,much thanks for contributors of this thread. I'm in no way a seasoned shell command user but was able to follow instructions :phew: 
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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #502 on: April 13, 2018, 09:23:42 am »
Hi,
I have the last firmware installed: 1.2.8.5a and I wanted to backup all the MTD partitions prior to play with the unit :-)
As many of you, I suffered the MTD7 read error using the previously posted "DD" procedure.
Well, today I succeded dumping the MTD7 using the nanddump command:

root@am335x-evm:~# nanddump -f /usr/bin/siglent/usr/mass_storage/U-disk0/mtd7 /dev/mtd7
ECC failed: 0
ECC corrected: 1
Number of bad blocks: 0
Number of bbt blocks: 0
Block size 131072, page size 2048, OOB size 64
Dumping data starting at 0x00000000 and ending at 0x02b00000...
ECC: 1 corrected bitflip(s) at offset 0x01fe0000

the file size then is :

root@am335x-evm:~# ls -l /usr/bin/siglent/usr/mass_storage/U-disk0/

-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root      45088768 Apr 13 11:04 mtd7

and this is the list of partitions... just in case....

root@am335x-evm:~# cat /proc/mtd
dev:    size   erasesize  name
mtd0: 00020000 00020000 "SPL"
mtd1: 00020000 00020000 "SPL.backup1"
mtd2: 00020000 00020000 "SPL.backup2"
mtd3: 00020000 00020000 "SPL.backup3"
mtd4: 001e0000 00020000 "U-Boot"
mtd5: 00020000 00020000 "U-Boot Env"
mtd6: 00300000 00020000 "Manufacturedata"
mtd7: 02b00000 00020000 "File System"
mtd8: 00600000 00020000 "kerneldata"
mtd9: 00600000 00020000 "fpgadata"
mtd10: 03200000 00020000 "firmdata0"
mtd11: 03200000 00020000 "firmdata1"
mtd12: 05f80000 00020000 "datafs"



Hope this could help .
Cheers
« Last Edit: April 13, 2018, 09:26:05 am by swanawood »
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #503 on: April 16, 2018, 01:51:48 pm »
Dear all,

I need your help because I'm not an expert of linux.
What is the correct syntax for login to SSA3021X (with PuTTYPortable).
I get no response, but I can check the connection by "*IDN?" - there is a response and also I'm able to reboot over LAN.
I have done the last update to firmware SSA3000X_1.2.8.5a_EN (date 180312) :palm:. Unfortunately I have not the possibility like Bandit327, the Back-key is blocked.

Has somebody an idea, ore must I go over the internal serial-port?
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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #504 on: April 16, 2018, 09:33:48 pm »
Dear all,

I need your help because I'm not an expert of linux.
What is the correct syntax for login to SSA3021X (with PuTTYPortable).
I get no response, but I can check the connection by "*IDN?" - there is a response and also I'm able to reboot over LAN.
I have done the last update to firmware SSA3000X_1.2.8.5a_EN (date 180312) :palm:. Unfortunately I have not the possibility like Bandit327, the Back-key is blocked.

Has somebody an idea, ore must I go over the internal serial-port?

You need use TELNET!
But please if you do not know what you are doing then study before you do anything. When you have root then with mistakes you can mess whole SA.

PuTTYtel client you can find here
https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/latest.html
And there you download 32 or 64 bit version (a Telnet-only client)
32-bit: puttytel.exe
64-bit: puttytel.exe

(and for tracking some possible mistakes turn also log on so that it log all your work to log file.)
Also keep care you follow right instructions and not all fake informations here and there.
Remember, if you are not sure what you do then do not. Golden rule: First brain - then muscle.

This is how SSA3000X answer when it see your terminal. If you do not see this kind of terminal screen (coming from SA) when you connect  terminal then you are doing wrong or something is  wrong. (Terminal..what terminal...you have sopme kind of PC, you do not have real terminal (exept if you have), you have Windows PC or Kylin PC or whatever OS PC somehow emulating real terminal)
Connection protocol is Telnet and telnet port is 23 (PuTTYtel default) and IP address is how you set in SA and then also in PuTTY settings correspondingly.


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Read carefully this msg
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hack-of-sigllent-spectrum-analyzer-ssa3021x/msg1251608/#msg1251608
and all what you can find here (including links) and if you find some instructions then adjust some parts of instructions with this message (because something have bit changed after V05 instructions.)

And remember that right use of copypaste is your friend for avoid any typing errors in command lines. Worst case some mistake/error may be fatal.

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #505 on: April 16, 2018, 11:12:47 pm »
Thank you rf-loop  :clap:,
 the important information was port 23.
My mistake was port 5025 (I found at a Siglent information)

Now I get the response and was able to to solve my problems (thanks to gonzo_the_great).

Many thanks for the fast support, rf-loop!  :-+
« Last Edit: April 17, 2018, 12:10:06 am by MF-jockey »
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #506 on: April 22, 2018, 09:27:55 am »
Something happened to my SSA3032X today  :scared:
I got it with TG but.....



Thanks Roger for your help.  :)
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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #507 on: April 25, 2018, 02:43:52 pm »
Something happened to my SSA3032X today  :scared:
I got it with TG but.....



Thanks Roger for your help.  :)
Hi tautech, could you please explain the miracle?
Thanks Karsten


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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #508 on: April 25, 2018, 04:41:40 pm »
I'm jonesing for one of these soooo badly, but I just can't justify it.  While I do work with SDR/wireless technology at work, I don't do much at home as I haven't been a ham since I was a kid.

If anyone outgrows theirs, please let me know! 
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #509 on: April 25, 2018, 07:34:32 pm »
Something happened to my SSA3032X today  :scared:
I got it with TG but.....



Thanks Roger for your help.  :)
Hi tautech, could you please explain the miracle?
Thanks Karsten


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See reply #504 and follow all links.
Read, study and understand........lots !

If you are PuTTY or TELNET illiterate .......then totally forget the hack or get 'trusted' and 'capable' help. < This I stress strongly.
We used LAN cable between W7 laptop and SSA and for the hack,TELNET as my helper (EEVblog member)was very proficient in its use.

 
I only needed the remaining 3 options for my demo SSA3032X and there probably is a neater way to get them without loosing the SN#.  :(
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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #510 on: April 26, 2018, 08:08:49 am »
Hi,

version 1.2.9.1 is out. Is this hack still valid?

/m
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #511 on: April 26, 2018, 08:37:52 am »
Hi,

version 1.2.9.1 is out. Is this hack still valid?

/m
Well, it doesn't affect it.  :)

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #512 on: April 26, 2018, 09:43:26 am »
Hi,

version 1.2.9.1 is out. Is this hack still valid?

/m
Well, it doesn't affect it.  :)

Thanks. Will try it later today ...
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #513 on: April 28, 2018, 02:53:35 pm »
after update to 1.2.9.1 information of last 'Calibration date' is lost .. ?
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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #514 on: April 28, 2018, 10:16:09 pm »
If Siglent was smart it would sell and release all its spectrum analyzers with all  firmware upgrade options. They would sell thousands more units and would certainly make them more money  than selling firmware licenses. Them trying to emulate Keysight with Option 1 to 99999999999 is really not smart  in today's business model.

If they announced this policy tomorrow, they would at least get 1000 more sales tomorrow!

Oh well opportunity lost.
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #515 on: April 28, 2018, 10:41:32 pm »
If Siglent was smart it would sell and release all its spectrum analyzers with all  firmware upgrade options. They would sell thousands more units and would certainly make them more money  than selling firmware licenses. Them trying to emulate Keysight with Option 1 to 99999999999 is really not smart  in today's business model.

If they announced this policy tomorrow, they would at least get 1000 more sales tomorrow!

Oh well opportunity lost.
You can test what options you really need after purchase as all are active for a trial period.
Presently TG that was previously $237 is now free and that move by Siglent alone reflects the popularity of these models.
And the current lead times.............. :(
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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #516 on: April 29, 2018, 09:00:43 am »
hello.

I update from 1.2.8.5a  to 1.2.9.1  and lost the Calibration date to.??  Bugs?   Never tried to hack the SSA3021.
Get it few days ago incl TG .

Someone tried to only activate the the options on this last firmware? It was delivered with TG
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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #517 on: April 29, 2018, 09:41:33 am »
hello.

I update from 1.2.8.5a  to 1.2.9.1  and lost the service info to.??  Bugs?   Never tried to hack the SSA3021.
Get it few days ago.
Welcome to the forum.

I'll send an email to Siglent about this update after I apply it to a new unit I have in stock. I have ~18hrs until they are at work.

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Someone tried to only activate the the options on this last firmware? It was delivered with TG
They all come with TG free now.
In my invoices from Siglent TG option is listed separately and at $0.00.  :)
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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #518 on: May 05, 2018, 12:49:02 pm »
Was ist los.?  After the last upgrade 1.2.9.1  it was very quiet. Was going on? What happens?

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #519 on: May 05, 2018, 12:56:45 pm »
Was ist los.?  After the last upgrade 1.2.9.1  it was very quiet. Was going on? What happens?

Per O
I got no reply from Siglent and when I installed 9.1 into a new 3021X before sale I saw no changes so I presume it just affects hacked units but I'm not entirely sure. Needs more feedback from others.
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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #520 on: May 05, 2018, 03:40:43 pm »
Thanks.   I get a feedback from the seller here in Norway, today. He told siglent new FW had make a change in the UI . I make a png of the page, and hi told me the same happens on 2 hiof new equipments.  Nor more.  I thinl it is no importent fault anyway.  A another thing. Some times I could not shut down the analyzer, and get to move the 220v connector.  Nobody of this happens with the FW 1.2.8.5a originally installed.  Maybe I want to cansel the bay. I am tired of all data bugs around me. They do not doing things right. My car to, must upgrade against bygs in the FW. have a nice weekend all.
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #521 on: May 05, 2018, 09:06:12 pm »
If Siglent was smart it would sell and release all its spectrum analyzers with all  firmware upgrade options. They would sell thousands more units and would certainly make them more money  than selling firmware licenses. Them trying to emulate Keysight with Option 1 to 99999999999 is really not smart  in today's business model.

If they announced this policy tomorrow, they would at least get 1000 more sales tomorrow!

Oh well opportunity lost.

Then they would charge more $$ and people would complain that they were paying extra for features they don't want/use.  So they would most likely sell fewer units.
A base $$ price plus $$ options allows people to start with a basic SA that they might not otherwise afford.  They can then expand capability without buying a new SA.   Base plus options is a smart model.  The automotive industry has been doing it for decades.
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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #522 on: May 11, 2018, 02:13:24 pm »
Hello everyone im new and new to Sigllent spectrum analyzers just got a ssa3021x and was looking for hacks to open it up.
i been getting lost in the posts on how to do it my unit is new and made in 4/2018
any help/info would be nice
thanks everyone
 

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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #523 on: May 11, 2018, 09:00:52 pm »
Hello everyone im new and new to Sigllent spectrum analyzers just got a ssa3021x and was looking for hacks to open it up.
i been getting lost in the posts on how to do it my unit is new and made in 4/2018
any help/info would be nice
thanks everyone
Welcome to the forum.

See reply #509 and follow links but before you venture down that path I strongly recommend you use most of the free trial time available and become familiar and confident with the UI. TELNET or PuTTY it doesn't matter BUT you really need to know what you're doing ! I didn't and enlisted trusted and highly competent assistance.
One trick that can be overlooked is removing the power entirely as the last step. 
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Re: Hack of Sigllent spectrum analyzer ssa3021X?
« Reply #524 on: May 11, 2018, 10:26:49 pm »
ok thank you
 


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