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Hantek - Tekway - DSO hack - get 200MHz bw for free
« on: October 24, 2010, 04:01:32 PM »
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The topic is about how to hack another one Chinese DSO (Tekway/Hantek) up to 200MHz bandwidth.

-why Tekway

As my private Tek TDS754D dies some time ago i had to find a replacement.
I ordered few cheap known china DSOs - UNI-T (UT2102CE), Rigol (DS1102E) , Atten (ADS1102CE) and finally Tekway (DST1102B)
and tested them detailed.  Finally decided to take the Tekway DST1102B, it was the best combination of quality/performance/price.

The device itself, compared to Rigol DS1102E, is in my opinion a "bit" better :
- 7" 800 x 480 pix display
- "real" 100Mhz ADCs (yes, exact the same AD9288 but 100MHz rated)
- 2500 wfrms/s (Rigol E 800 wfrms/s)
- Screen refresh 30/40/50 frames/sec (Rigol ?)
- DPO-like functionality (waveform persistent for 0.2sec-> 8.0sec)
- dedicated good known application SOC and Linux OS


EDIT : As few users asked why not UNI-T or ATTEN:
- UNI-T UT2102CE is a piece of crap (i got blind with this cheap LCD, 25k sample memory only)
- ATTEN ADS1102CE nice sample rate but 18k sample memory.

Today i would probably test UT2102CEL or ATTEN ADS1102CML (inistead of C/CE models), but honestly UNI-T did changed display (but still same crap sample memory), but they cheating with resolution. Each "visible" pixel is combination of 4 display pixels, so you have 400x240 and not 800x480 resolution. Additionaly the ADCs used in UNI-T are cheap once from no-name manufacturer.

ATTEN ADS1102CML is for sure better than the one i tested, internaly looks like Rigol E,
but it does have only 480x234 pix resoltion so still no compare to HanTekway.


-what inside Tekway DST1xxxB

4 x AD9288 ADCs (yes, for 1GSs overclocked to 125MHz in 8ns, 4ns and 2ns time base - like Instek GDS1102A)
2 x AD8370 amps (750MHz bw - input stage like Rigol)
2 x LMH6552 amps (1.5GHz bw - input stage like Rigol)
ADCMP562 ECL comparator (for trigger)
Altera Cyclone III FPGA (ADC sampling control and data acquisition)
Altera Max II CPLD (long/short memory management - copy protected)
Samsung S3C2440 (user i/o, UI interface, TFT control)
EEPROM with s/n
some NAND, SRAM and SDRAM memory and of course bunch of other things (no cheap parts which is good)

The Samsung S3C2440 is well known ARM SOC, (just google for mini2440 or friendlyarm).
On OS level there is Linux 2.6.13 running, so many nice hacks/tricks possible - e.g. you can test your hacks of the
Tekway DSO firmware on your mini2440 with 7" screen connected.



- The hack

There are two ways:
- pre-hacked firmware - not working since fw 2.6.x
- via JTAG/UART

pre-hacked firmware
You will have FIRST to update the firmware to 2.05 (http://www.tekwayins.net/pic/dst1kb_2.05.0_cli(100317.0).up)
If you don't know how to use JTAG/UART just use the attached firmware (fw-hack.zip). There are 3 directories inside:
 -Dst1062b (use this if you wish to downgrade to 60MHz)
 -Dst1102b (use this if you wish to downgrade/upgrade to 100MHz)
 -Dst1202b (use this if you wish to upgrade to 200MHz)
copy the specific firmware file *.up to USB stick and upgrade/downgrade your device like with Tekway original firmware.
After reboot the DSO will be already hacked to whatever you choose.



For prehacked firmware check this posting (I did updated all):

http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg24564#msg24564


Hack via JTAG/UART
If you have ARM JTAG or wish to play/do more with the firmware i recommend to make a backup of the original firmware!

Tekway/Hantek is using custom vivi bootloader, so you will have first to replace it by a bootloader which supports USB firmware backup/restore.
I'm working with H-JTAG wiggler and H-Flasher, however you can use whatever tools you like, j-link or arm open ocd are good as well.

1. Connect your PC to DSO ARM JTAG port (attached picture)
2. make a copy of your bootloader (first 128k of the NAND memory), if you miss this step i attached my copy (vivi.bin)
3. flash attached supervivi.bin. It is special version which matches the NAND partitions. Don't flash any other versions if you don't know what NAND partitions are good for.
4. connect your PC to the DSO UART0 (attached picture) and run your fav. terminal emulation. Settings are 115200 8n1.
5. restart the DSO while hiting a key in your terminal emulation window - to stop the bootloader.
6. run the supervivi menu (type menu)
7. connect your PC via USB to the DSO and run dnw.exe on your PC. You will need device driver, I’m not attaching them, just google for "dnw.exe usb driver friendlyarm"
8. chose backup "Backup NAND Flash to HOST through USB(upload)" from supervivi menu and "USB Port -> Backup NandFlash to file" from dnw.exe menu.
9. after the backup is ready restore the original bootloader (vivi.bin) - this step is optional but recommended,
the device works good with supervivi.bin however you never know what customized inside the original bootloader.



This seems to be too "high" for most users, use the fw3dump tool to dump fw via USB
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg35683#msg35683

Why do a backup when factory calibration is known?
Here another one reason:
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg62941#msg62941




Once you ready with the backup you can disconnect JTAG / USB from the DSO and reboot it. As soon the Linux started you should be able to terminate the DSO UI application (ctrl+c) in your fav. terminal app to get the linux shell.

After you made a fw backup with the fw3dump tool connect your PC to the DSO UART0 (attached picture)
and run terminal emulation (e.g. putty or hyperterm). Settings are 115200 8n1.
Important - the DSO UART is not RS232, so use something like USB UART converter, just ebay for it, CP2102 or FT232 based
converters are what you looking for.


To hack the device, you will have to do few things in the linux shell (here for DST1102B device, similar for other Tekway/Hantek models)

mv dst1102b dst1202b
vi /sys.inf
vi /tmpdst
vi /logotype
vi /logotype.dis (only for fw 2.6.xx and higher)

and replace all DST1102B by DST1202B
In principle if you only do mv xxxxxx xxxxxxx and reboot twice your DSO, everything else will get updated automatically,
but i think it is better to change manually - just in case somethign will get changed in the future in the firmware.

That's all, after a reboot your DSO will startup as DST1202B and the 200MHz will be enabled.



-Where to get Tekway


in NA afaik only www.electrolab.com
in EU (germany) afaik only www.pinsonne-elektronik.de

or of course ebay/taobao and so on.

There are some rumors about Tekway/Hantek, some ppl mentioned Hantek bought Tekway, some other said "no, Tekway is producing for Hantek".
In principle it didn't really matter, the
fact is Hantek have two new DSO series and they are 100% Tekway inside

If you buy from china:
Hantek DSO5202M = Tekway DST1202B = Protek 3210
Hantek DSO5102M = Tekway DST1102B = Protek 3110
Hantek DSO5062M = Tekway DST1062B

If you buy from Hantek distributor:
Hantek DSO5202B = Tekway DST1202B = Protek 3210
Hantek DSO5102B = Tekway DST1102B = Protek 3110
Hantek DSO5062B = Tekway DST1062B

No clue why Hantek is using different model names for Chinese and international market, but i assume the Chinese versions will have NO English UI.
If you get such device please let me know, there is a way to "enable English" ... but that's a different topic.


There is another Hantek series (N or C), they "100% Tekway inside" too but not the DST1xxxB familiy !

Hantek DSO5102N, DSO5102C = Tekway DST4102B = Protek 3010
Hantek DSO5062N, DSO5062C = Tekway DST4062B = Protek 3006

These devices are only 500MSs, you can of course use the JTAG/UART to hack DST4062B to DST4102B but that's all.
The PCB is a bit different, so you can't just use the attached DST1xxxB firmware to "update" the DSO, so don't try!

ups ... today we know that there are no 500MSs models, they actually 1GSs with different logo,
see here:

http://www.eevblog.com/forum/general-chat/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg93384/#msg93384



The Tekway DST3xxxB familiy is even slower, not recommended anyway (250MSs), so don't buy it :)

For now you can get the Hantek devices on ebay or www.goodluckbuy.com,
i asked some Hantek distributors but they have no stock for now.



-what else?

The Tekway DSO is very hack-friendly. As already mentioned it is using the Samsung S3C2440.

There is for example touch screen connector on the PCB, you will have to buy a touch (the LCD is AT070TN83 V1).
The firmware itself is currently not supporting touch, but it is Linux, so you can develop own GUI to e.g. choose between
DSO and whatever ... lol, don't android. You have to use 2.6.13 just because of the precompiled modules.

Another one possible hack is Ethernet card. There is I/O port, Tekway even already precompiled cs8900 module. All what we need
is the pinout. I already reversed all Address/Data pins, only few control pins still open.

All the JTAG ports on the PCB have standard pinout. UART port have TTL level, you will have to use RS232 or USB converter.

I have made tons of PCB pictures, just in case something broken. let me know if you need them.


-final note

The 200MHz hacked device is working since months without any issues.
I posted a small notice in another forum some time ago so there are already other ppl using the hack.
I can't guarantee that your device will not get damaged if you use the pre-hacked firmware, i tested it on two DSOs multiple times
with no issues. After all these "tests" i decided to make it public.

If you have any questions, pls let me know before you damage something.

happy hacking

tinman

:OTHER UPDATES:

Firmware backup tool (for Tekway DST1xxxB, Hantek DSO5xxxB, Voltcraft DSO 3062C and DSO1062D, some PCE models)
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg35683#msg35683

200Mhz not enough ? Take a look here, and with proper active probes get 250Mhz (or up to 400Mhz with some attenutation)
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg45275#msg45275
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg45649#msg45649

You don't like the hot PSU ? Check here how to reduce the heat and reduce riple/noice for ADC supply
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg42363#msg42363

You need russian menu ? Look here
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg39434#msg39434

You wish to have Ethernet (10mbit) adapter for your Hantek/Tekway? Look here
(only for models produced before 1st April 2011 - green main PCB, not blue!)

http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg40447#msg40447

You bought Tekway from China and need English fron panel sticker?
ask "Pioneer Huang" from Aliexpress

If you wish to buy Tekway a bit cheaper from China - with English fron panel sticker, look this shop
http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/707178

If you wish to see what inside firmware or build your own look here how to crypt/decrypt
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg23984#msg23984

You destroyed factory calibration or you wish to run it after hardware modifications ?
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg50043#msg50043

and here

http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg62991#msg62991

If you need to repair or learn how your DSO works, look here for full schematics (hw 1.0.2 / hw 1.0.3)
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg56754#msg56754[/url]

you looking for latest firmware versions for your Hantek/Tekway, look here
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/general-chat/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg128527/#msg128527

you think a pimped up firmware is good for you, look here
ehm, always the latest will be pimped up if possible ... so link removed.
However some older fw versions are still available in the thread. I will create later
website wit all historical versions .. just in case someone need it.

you wish to downgrade your firmware to 2.06.3 110531.1 for whatever reason? Look here
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg63001#msg63001

you wish to know (once again and more detailed) how the firmware update process works internaly? Look here
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg70890#msg70890

you wish to restore your firmware backup (made with the backup tools from this thread), look here
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg75015#msg75015

you wish to learn how to remote control DSO with own software or even hack over hidden USB/LAN protocol, look here
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg79128#msg79128

you wish to use USB LAN stick, look here for hack and DSO device drivers
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg83370#msg83370

you wish to populate missing parts around RJ45 jack to use it as UART? check this
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/general-chat/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg95759/#msg95759

your DSO crashed and now after power up is not responding to any key? Check this
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/general-chat/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg93999/#msg93999


how to hack licensing informations in EEPROM to enable features
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/general-chat/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg108309/#msg108309

if you bought Hantek handheld DST1xxxxB/BV/S and wish to know more about them look here
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg86367#msg86367


Firmware backup tool for Hantek Handheld DST1xxxxB/BV/S models
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.msg86825#msg86825


Firmware backup tool for Hantek DSO5xxxxBM/BMV models
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/general-chat/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg111917/#msg111917



if you bought Voltcraft 500MSs 60MHz DSO3062C you luck girl/guy! these scopes are in reality 1GSs and can be
of course hacked to 200MHz bandwidth as well!!! Look here for funny story:
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/general-chat/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg93384/#msg93384



if you wish to change the bootlogo or icons in the status bar and don't know how to convert these
"ico" files to soething known, then look here:

http://www.eevblog.com/forum/general-chat/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg101338/#msg101338
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/general-chat/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg101352/#msg101352


If you wish to develop own Capture/remote control software, LabView or MATLab drivers look here for details
how to control these DSOs :

http://www.mikrocontroller.net/articles/Hantek_Protokoll

an english verion here:

http://elinux.org/Das_Oszi_Protocol

If you wish to access your DSO over LAN (etc WLAN USB Adapter, integrated LAN, integrated WLAN) and you don't want to wait
the next 5 years before Hantek/Tekway implements LAN into firmware then check this:

http://www.eevblog.com/forum/general-chat/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg147256/#msg147256


The GPL sources (for all kind of models based on DSO2.0 platfrom) are here:
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/general-chat/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg110134/#msg110134


There is also a good tool written based on the "SDK" to communicate
(Remote control, show live waveforms, make screenshots, export data, change hidden function
and so on) on these DSOs. Supported OS - Linux, Windows and MacOSX !!!

http://peter.dreisiebner.at/dso-usb-tool


BELOW ATTACHED BUG LIST(S), I WILL UPDATE IT FROM TIME TO TIME
« Last Edit: February 21, 2013, 12:07:28 PM by tinhead »
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Re: Another one china DSO hack - 200MHz
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2010, 04:03:32 PM »
attached bootloader; uart picture

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ups, i'm over 20000 characters in the post above, so let's continue here with the thread shortcuts

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A nice compare between Hantek Handheld DSO1202B (they im principle equal to the bench models in this thread)
and 600MHz LeCroy WaveRunner Xi - look here

http://www.biasedlogic.com/index.php/hantek-dso1062b-dso1102b-dso1202b-vs-5gss-lecroy-waverunner/


If you wish to know what hw 555583E8 or 555583E9 in the hardware revision means check this
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg170862/#msg170862


deep hack - you wish to disable the automatic 20MHz lowpass filter
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg172547/#msg172547


firmware backup tool for Tekway / Hantek / Voltcraft MSO models
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg185074/#msg185074


If you wish to connect to the UART, check this picture



you own one of following DSOs/MSOs/Handhelds and wish to change the boot logo?
- Hantek Handheld DSO1062B/BV, DSO1102B/BV, DSO1202B/BV
- Hantek Handheld DSO1062S, DSO1102S, DSO1152S
- Tekway MSO MST1062B, MST1102B, MST1202B
- Hantek MSO MSO5062D, MSO5102D, MSO5202D
- Voltcraft MSO MSO5062D, MSO5102D, MSO5202D
- Hantek DSO DSO5062BV/BMV, DSO5102BV/BMV, DSO5202BV/BMV

http://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg200040/#msg200040


You got error 0xfb during firmare update? Check this
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg206840/#msg206840

If you need to repair or learn how your Tekway / Hantek/ Voltcraft DSO works, look here for full schematics (hw 1005 / hw 1007)http://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hantek-tekway-dso-hack-get-200mhz-bw-for-free/msg214613/#msg214613
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Re: Another one china DSO hack - 200MHz
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2010, 06:48:11 PM »
Nifty, you would think the other vendors have learned a thing or two after the rigol incident.

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Re: Another one china DSO hack - 200MHz
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2010, 08:44:46 PM »
Thanks - that's really interesting.

As far as I know, both the GW-Instek and Rigol scopes deal with all of the display logic in the FPGA, so have quite limited ability. The UI on these scopes looks a lot more fancy.

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Re: Another one china DSO hack - 200MHz
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2010, 09:48:54 PM »
Awesome job, tinman and welcome the eevblog, what a great way to start.

Don't know much about tekway, but now its worth looking in to.



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Re: Another one china DSO hack - 200MHz
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2010, 10:11:27 PM »
I have a sneaking suspicion letting the hack info continue and not be suppressed is actually good for business. 

Consider:

If sales of the Rigol 1052E double, it would compensate for each single lost sale of the 1102E

But If the 1102E is really just a factory hacked 1052E, then the manufacturing cost to make either scopes is equal, so they are not losing any sales at all, just making more.  The excess inventory of 1102E can always have their case stickers changed and firmware reburned to downgrade them into 1052E.  So the only cost to make an 1102E over a 1052E is labor to do the firmware and casing decal changes.

If the owner bricks his scope and asks for factory repair, the unit is not under warranty, and now not only did they make a sale on a scope, they can charge for repair

Rigol now has a bigger reputation, free publicity, more people own it, know its electronics intimately and thus have a better appreciation of its capabilities, and will consider buying their other products now too

So, its a win win.

If you look at the trends in electronics, there is a market of makers and hackers so manufacturers are addressing their wants.  Hakko's new iron, the FX888, Agilent's DMM skins, Hakko 936 skins etc., certainly isn't directed towards professional electronics.







Which prompted Fluke to make this ad:

http://register.fluke.com/globalforms/goyellow/index.html





Nifty, you would think the other vendors have learned a thing or two after the rigol incident.
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Re: Another one china DSO hack - 200MHz
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2010, 11:10:42 PM »
I have a sneaking suspicion letting the hack info continue and not be suppressed is actually good for business. 

Consider:

If sales of the Rigol 1052E double, it would compensate for each single lost sale of the 1102E

But If the 1102E is really just a factory hacked 1052E, then the manufacturing cost to make either scopes is equal, so they are not losing any sales at all, just making more.  The excess inventory of 1102E can always have their case stickers changed and firmware reburned to downgrade them into 1052E.  So the only cost to make an 1102E over a 1052E is labor to do the firmware and casing decal changes.

If the owner bricks his scope and asks for factory repair, the unit is not under warranty, and now not only did they make a sale on a scope, they can charge for repair

Rigol now has a bigger reputation, free publicity, more people own it, know its electronics intimately and thus have a better appreciation of its capabilities, and will consider buying their other products now too

So, its a win win.

If you look at the trends in electronics, there is a market of makers and hackers so manufacturers are addressing their wants.  Hakko's new iron, the FX888, Agilent's DMM skins, Hakko 936 skins etc., certainly isn't directed towards professional electronics.

Nifty, you would think the other vendors have learned a thing or two after the rigol incident.

Well, that certainly reminds me of the conspiracy theory that Microsoft was loose on copy protection in the early years to ensure that they get the market share in first.

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Re: Another one china DSO hack - 200MHz
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2010, 12:08:38 AM »
Hi tinman,

Can you post some more pictures please?

Looks like I'll be picking one of these up in China next month ;o)

Thanks.

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Re: Another one china DSO hack - 200MHz
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2010, 12:28:34 AM »
cant find it in ebay, just the 200MHz version. maybe they are pulling all 100MHz back to upgrade to 2.04.SP1 FW? ??? just speculation, not related to anyone who is still live or dead.

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Re: Another one china DSO hack - 200MHz
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2010, 12:42:51 AM »
They're listed on www.taobao.com

Be warned, checking prices on taobao.com will leave you feeling sick every time!

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Re: Another one china DSO hack - 200MHz
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2010, 01:00:56 AM »
cant find it in ebay, just the 200MHz version. maybe they are pulling all 100MHz back to upgrade to 2.04.SP1 FW? ??? just speculation, not related to anyone who is still live or dead.

a month ago electrolab.com had some 100MHz versions. It can have something to do with the rumoured Hantek/Tekway deal,
but it can be just whatever. The distributor in Germany have still enough in stock, and of course taobao is full of sellers anyway.


Nifty, you would think the other vendors have learned a thing or two after the rigol incident.

Well, there are many competitors on low cost DSO market. That why probably every company have to reduce the costs.
You can hack almost all low cost DSOs, the question for me was only "which SOC/µC inside, which OS".

With Samsung S3C2440 and Linux 2.6.13 was easy thing, much easier than with TI DSP or pure FPGA based DSOs.
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Re: Another one china DSO hack - 200MHz
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2010, 01:15:54 AM »
maybe they are pulling all 100MHz back to upgrade to 2.04.SP1 FW? ???

i don't think that they will every try. By design the DSO is using these few config files, as this is Linux these can be always changed.
Of course Tekway/Hantek can try to disable UART port, JTAG can't be disabled. But even if, you will be still able to make backup
of the firmware via JTAG, to "patch" it on your mini2440 board and to restore it back to DSO.

The only chance is to change the PCB (the low pass filter around AD8370), which costs more money.
EDIT: Actually there are some differences between model,  however a hacked 60Mhz DSO can be still good up to 180MHz (-3db)
which is i think good value.
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Re: Another one china DSO hack - 200MHz
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2010, 01:24:41 AM »
Any idea if Tekway makes Hantek's handheld oscilloscopes too?

Do you know if the Hantek DSO-1060 could be modified to be
a DSO-1200?  This would change a 60Mhz scope into a 200Mhz scope.

Great information, I bet there's going to be tons of discussion
about this topic!

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Re: Another one china DSO hack - 200MHz
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2010, 01:27:59 AM »
Hi tinman,

Can you post some more pictures please?

Looks like I'll be picking one of these up in China next month ;o)

Thanks.

sure, some PCB pics attached. As you can see the PCB is very nice routed, these guys did good job

For the outside pics check the tekway/hantek websites.

Btw, the DSO is fanless, which is good.
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Re: Another one china DSO hack - 200MHz
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2010, 01:33:29 AM »
Any idea if Tekway makes Hantek's handheld oscilloscopes too?

Do you know if the Hantek DSO-1060 could be modified to be
a DSO-1200?  This would change a 60Mhz scope into a 200Mhz scope.

Great information, I bet there's going to be tons of discussion
about this topic!

Scott


the other Hantek DSOs are made by Hantek itself (or others), but definitely not by Tekway.

Tekway started to made DSOs 3years ago and they never had handheld based devices.
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