Help me chose my first oscilloscope

[NEoX]

So guys let you tell me top 3 models of all that you offer there on forum ..I will look up what I can find ..so the scopes are:
-Rigol ds1054z (unlocked)
-Siglent SDS1104X-E
-GW Instek GDS1054B
-? (something else)

[tautech]

So guys let you tell me top 3 models of all that you offer there on forum ..I will look up what I can find ..so the scopes are:
-Rigol ds1054z (unlocked)
-Siglent SDS1104X-E
-GW Instek GDS1054B
-? (something else)

As a budding EE one of your 'required' skills is understanding datasheets !
I strongly suggest this is where you start.
Here's one:
https://www.siglenteu.com/download/5424/

[Gtx21]

The SDA1104X-E trounces the Rigol 1054z,
But at the cost of about $150 more.  (So not Apples to apples)


It has more memory per channel, more wfps per channel, is 100mHz out of box, upgrades to 200 MHz perhaps, and comes with what I believe are better stock probes.

There’s a reason Rigol lowered the price and is throwing in all the licensing options now.

I don’t know much about the GW Instek yet.

[NEoX]

Will look and do some comparation. At the end I will buy something that I can find here in Croatia for good price. But now i know what kind of scopes to look.

[tautech]

Will look and do some comparation. At the end I will buy something that I can find here in Croatia for good price. But now i know what kind of scopes to look.

Do come back with any questions you might have about 'features'.
Your seemed happy to hack a 1054Z so you might be happy to do some tricks on the Siglent too. 

[james_s]

The problem with a question like this is that everyone has their own opinion and you can become paralyzed with indecision. In the end though I think you will probably be happy with any of the suggested scopes. They all have advantages and disadvantages, and they are all much more capable than any of the hobby affordable scopes 10-20 years ago.

[NEoX]

Will look and do some comparation. At the end I will buy something that I can find here in Croatia for good price. But now i know what kind of scopes to look.

Do come back with any questions you might have about 'features'.
Your seemed happy to hack a 1054Z so you might be happy to do some tricks on the Siglent too. 

Im "happy" because Rigol have shop here in Croatia and i can get it easy ..some scopes are high priced here and as student I dont have extra money to spend. If I buy scope forom outside the country tehere are extra taxes to pay

[tautech]

Will look and do some comparation. At the end I will buy something that I can find here in Croatia for good price. But now i know what kind of scopes to look.

Do come back with any questions you might have about 'features'.
Your seemed happy to hack a 1054Z so you might be happy to do some tricks on the Siglent too. 

Im "happy" because Rigol have shop here in Croatia and i can get it easy ..some scopes are high priced here and as student I dont have extra money to spend. If I buy scope forom outside the country tehere are extra taxes to pay

Your local Siglent distributor:

Croatia
Micom Electronics, d.o.o.
 Dobrave 10, 1236 Trzin, Slovenia
 386 (1) 589 62 56
 www.micom-tm.com
 info@micom.si

[NEoX]

Will look and do some comparation. At the end I will buy something that I can find here in Croatia for good price. But now i know what kind of scopes to look.

Do come back with any questions you might have about 'features'.
Your seemed happy to hack a 1054Z so you might be happy to do some tricks on the Siglent too. 

Im "happy" because Rigol have shop here in Croatia and i can get it easy ..some scopes are high priced here and as student I dont have extra money to spend. If I buy scope forom outside the country tehere are extra taxes to pay

Your local Siglent distributor:

Croatia
Micom Electronics, d.o.o.
 Dobrave 10, 1236 Trzin, Slovenia
 386 (1) 589 62 56
 www.micom-tm.com
 info@micom.si

Yes i know. Thank you! ..I asked them for the Siglent SDS1104X-E and price

[Fungus]

The SDA1104X-E trounces the Rigol 1054z,
But at the cost of about $150 more.  (So not Apples to apples)

A minor point that the Siglent fanboys always seem to forget - theirs costs 50% more.

For the Price of Siglent you can have a Rigol and (eg.) a Brymen BM257S.

(or a Rigol, a Hakko soldering iron and a couple of useful Chinese multimeters)

And the difference between the two 'scopes isn't as much as they'd like you to think.

[Fungus]

There’s a reason Rigol lowered the price.

Yep. They were so far ahead of the competition they could sell it at a big markup for three whole years.

[josip]

Im "happy" because Rigol have shop here in Croatia and i can get it easy ..some scopes are high priced here and as student I dont have extra money to spend. If I buy scope forom outside the country tehere are extra taxes to pay

I didn't find any shops localy with fair price, so I bought SDS1202X-E from www.welectron.com.
Free shiping with 19% German VAT and 5% discount for EEVBlog members. No extra taxes to pay (EU).
It was paid with bancomat (not credit) card. Of course, with BB serial number (no compensation issue).

[NEoX]

I just can't decide now what to buy ..the siglent sds1104x-e (498€) or rigol ds1054z (444€) .. Just thinking is it worth to spend 54€ more for siglent or not ..mby I can spend that 54€ for other electronic gear and projects ..I want to hear you guys with more experience. Is it worth?

[DC1MC]

Wait untill the wek-end, you may have a nice surprise.

 Cheers,
 DC1MC

[Fungus]

Wait untill the wek-end, you may have a nice surprise.

New low-cost Rigol model?   

I just can't decide now what to buy ..the siglent sds1104x-e (498€) or rigol ds1054z (444€) .. Just thinking is it worth to spend 54€ more for siglent or not ..mby I can spend that 54€ for other electronic gear and projects ..I want to hear you guys with more experience. Is it worth?

A DS1054Z shouldn't cost 444€.

Batronix will send you one for 403 Euros: https://www.batronix.com/shop/oscilloscopes/Rigol-DS1054Z.html

That's with shipping included and you won't pay any taxes because it's within Europe.

If you want to get yours from the local Rigol office then give them a call to explain the situation or go down there and show them that page. I'm sure they'll come up with a special deal so you can buy one from them instead.

Or...let's wait until the weekend. 

[SaKhan]

If the pointed prices are correct, the Siglent is a no brainer to me. It's almost double the scope - 2x the bandwith (with the hack), 2x ADC, features, etc.

[NEoX]

Wait untill the wek-end, you may have a nice surprise.

 Cheers,
 DC1MC

Nice, confuse me more and more..Now thinking is it worth to buy any of this  hahah

[NEoX]

If the pointed prices are correct, the Siglent is a no brainer to me. It's almost double the scope - 2x the bandwith (with the hack), 2x ADC, features, etc.

The prices are what i can get here local.

[rsjsouza]

As I mentioned before, the current drawbacks of the Rigol tied to the rather small price difference between a newer device with a potentially longer lifespam (think of firmware updates, etc) certainly make me believe the Siglent is the best choice here. I tend to rationalize my expensive purchases this way: how much does it actually cost during the equipment's lifespam?

If the price difference seems critical now, think about in a year, where the difference will be about 15 cents per day.

A nice and very long review from a resident expert.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1104x-e-in-depth-review/

[DC1MC]

Wait untill the wek-end, you may have a nice surprise.

 Cheers,
 DC1MC

Nice, confuse me more and more..Now thinking is it worth to buy any of this  hahah

Well I have a Rigol MSO 1074Z that I may put it up for sale this WE for a very accptable price. That's it about the surprise.
And don't hurry with the scope, they will not go away or get more expensive, au contraire.

 Cheers,
 DC1MC

[NEoX]

Wait untill the wek-end, you may have a nice surprise.

 Cheers,
 DC1MC

Nice, confuse me more and more..Now thinking is it worth to buy any of this  hahah

Well I have a Rigol MSO 1074Z that I may put it up for sale this WE for a very accptable price. That's it about the surprise.
And don't hurry with the scope, they will not go away or get more expensive, au contraire.

 Cheers,
 DC1MC

Sorry m8 but I want to buy new oscilloscope from the shop. Yes, no rush.. Sure.. I want to think twice before buy

[Fungus]

It's almost double the scope - 2x the bandwith (with the hack), 2x ADC, features, etc.

The Siglent hack is a lot more difficult (and warranty-voiding) than just pushing a few buttons.

[tautech]

It's almost double the scope - 2x the bandwith (with the hack), 2x ADC, features, etc.

The Siglent hack is a lot more difficult (and warranty-voiding) than just pushing a few buttons.

Right, so you now care how equipment is hacked ? 

[james_s]

Well that would be something I'd take into consideration. Not saying it would be the definitive factor but it's a legitimate thing to mention.

I don't understand why people get so worked out about something like this though, an oscilloscope is just a tool, any of the suggested models ought to meet the OP's needs, why does it need a passionate debate? It's just really not that important, there is not that big of a difference and you will never have to use their scope anyway.

[ttelectronic]

Well that would be something I'd take into consideration. Not saying it would be the definitive factor but it's a legitimate thing to mention.

I don't understand why people get so worked out about something like this though, an oscilloscope is just a tool, any of the suggested models ought to meet the OP's needs, why does it need a passionate debate? It's just really not that important, there is not that big of a difference and you will never have to use their scope anyway.

Agree. For me it was a simple factor, money. Would have been a couple hundred bucks more for the sds1104 x-e, that is why the Rigol won out.