Question:Do entry level bench oscilloscopes (i.e. Rigol DS2k/1k series, Tektronix TDS series, etc.) have any sort of isolation on their data interfaces, such that dumping of current to the probe shield goes to Earth rather than the ground reference of the interface?
Background:In specific reference to EEVblog #279
How NOT To Blow Up Your Oscilloscope! and the other (very excellent) advice not to bother with cheap USB oscilloscopes… I had an incident, more than several years ago, involving a Hantek DSO USB oscilloscope, which I now find mildly amusing. Please, giggle along, after you watch #279 again. Yes, go watch it again now.
As the most memorable of all these stories start, I was working with power equipment. To wit, I had taken two legs of three phase mains AC (208V, in the US that’s two 120V lines of 120 degrees) at service amperage and transformed them to a balanced 240V system bonded to ground. Then, I had some isolation transformers in various configurations, some bonded, some floating. These, in turn, were connected to various DC power supplies (on the order of 15V 100+A each). Now, to be clear, I had taken very, very specific safety precautions in how this was setup, with various layers and technologies of breaking and ground faulting. It's not a bad idea for a study, I suppose, if done right; the basic purpose was to measure end DC power quality among various ground noise scenarios. Do not try this at home -- if you do proceed against all rational advice, do so at
someone else's home with
someone else's stuff. Ahem, excuse me, my attorney has advised me not to comment further.
*** (Psst, have good health coverage, and a life policy if you have dependent family) ***Everything was going along just fine... I had started probing, and collecting data… etc., etc. All well and good.
Then the lights flickered. And a very impressive poof of smoke came from... my computer rack! ?!?
Wow! How cool is that?!? (if by “cool,” you mean the destruction of a high-end workstation)
Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! Gaaah!!!
Facepalm! Of course, the power equipment was still humming along -- the safety mechanisms did exactly what they were supposed to do. And on resetting and cycling, every piece of power equipment came back online exactly as it was intended to.
Well… except my high end workstation. Whoops!
I figured I’d save some money on an oscilloscope that was “good enough” to look at basic power quality -- even just using rough analogue TLAR (the official acronym for “that looks about right”). I mean, hey, what’s a cheap little oscilloscope when you can afford to let it blow up, and buy another -- right?
Except when you attach that little USB gizmo to your PC -- when you blow up the oscilloscope, you can blow up the PC motherboard, and several pieces of attached USB equipment. The CPU, RAM, and expansion boards were salvageable... maybe because my motherboard was made to go down with the ship, with folks such as myself in mind as repeat customers.
On diagnosis, I found the originating problem was a combination of an unexpected ground loop and a cable I had miswired. That does happen. And yes,
it was my fault. I am not perfect, nor will I ever claim to be. It
will happen, and you plan for it. (Hopefully, on paying much attention to the material here, it will happen much less frequently -- but it will still happen). And in my case, the intended mechanisms correctly triggered to protect both operator and equipment. But I hadn’t given even the slightest consideration to the USB bus on the oscilloscope -- that is the last thing on your mind when you are wiring up these high power whackadoodle sledgehammer contraptions.
I thought to myself “oh yes, that is good, thank you, thank you!” when Mr. Jones mentioned it in #279. Similar situations are true when your USB bus serves as the oscilloscope earth ground. Thank you sir, thank you very, very much -- you said it... here, here!
(Danist raises his glass and motions for a proper toast)Still, an error which results in a fault through one’s tools is better than one which faults through oneself.
In retrospect (hindsight being more perfect than foresight), some sort of differential probe setup might have been a much better (but more expensive) idea.
But, as remains to my question -- do entry level scopes have isolated data interfaces… lest one dump to ground through the probe shield, is there any mechanism for it to bypass the interface ground in favor of mains Earth?