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Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« on: December 21, 2014, 08:17:40 AM »
So I just received the Christmas present for myself, a DS1054Z. Just out of curiosity I tried the riglol hack but it doesn't appear to work. My scope came with board 0.1.1 and firmware 00.04.02.SP3, which is newer than what I see on various scope hack videos on youtube. Has anyone successfully upgraded from 00.04.02.SP3?
 

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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2014, 08:26:09 AM »
Yes, no problem.
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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2014, 09:19:48 AM »
Select DSER. If you select DSFR you will get 500micro volt sensitivity and this has been reported to be buggy and cause problems. DSER gets you everything else.

If that page doesn't generate a good code the first time, close it, clear your cache, and try again. I didn't get a good code the first time round.
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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2014, 09:47:07 AM »
Yes, no problem.
Using http://gotroot.ca/rigol/riglol/ all options?

DSER is the correct option code for the DS1054Z

Another user (lightages?) had to hit generate a few times to get another key, that one worked.
 

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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2014, 06:20:32 PM »
Got it working by unlocking feature by feature. The 500uV res  does indeed seem buggy, going to have to find a way to remove that again. Thanks. :)
 

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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2014, 02:00:17 AM »
Got it working by unlocking feature by feature. The 500uV res  does indeed seem buggy, going to have to find a way to remove that again. Thanks. :)

So using DSER (as compared to the DSFR on the page) didn't work for you? I just ordered mine so I'm trying to get the research done on hacking it as I try to patiently wait.
 

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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2014, 02:56:29 AM »
It probably did work. Pretty sure it's just one of those "curiosity killed the cat" kind of occasions. After being told countless times not to do something, people tend to want to do it just to see what's the big whoop.
 

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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2014, 08:02:03 AM »
works like a charm, thanks people ;)

there was no DSER, so I used DSFR
 

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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2014, 08:22:50 AM »
DSER is not listed, but you can still enter that value and avoid the 500 micro volt problem that has been reported.
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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2015, 06:39:11 AM »
I received mine from Saelig last Monday, and it is also at 00.04.02.SP3/0.1.1.  I figure that I'll resist the urge for a month or so to get through the "infant mortality" phase.  Given that I use scopes with a couple more zeroes on the price in my day job, I'm quite impressed with this little guy.
 

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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2015, 06:59:12 AM »
DSER is not listed, but you can still enter that value and avoid the 500 micro volt problem that has been reported.

Not really a problem just not built into the hardware. The key generator works for many of the Rigol scopes and the actual hardware varies on some. From a manufacturing standpoint you just supply the correct code and you good to go. From a hacking standpoint seems a bit weird. 
 

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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2015, 07:07:23 AM »
Hi

As new DS1054Z owners you should do yourself a favour and update to firmware 00.04.02.SP4 this "fixes" the jitter issues talked so much about
(and is reported to still being hackable)

rigol-ds1000z-ds2000-oscilloscope-jitter-problems
this links to a post from RigolUSA with links to the official sw packages.

Just copy the GEL file to a newly formatted (FAT16) USB stick
 (preferably one you have tested in the scope first)

start the scope, and after you have confirmed that you want to update the firmware,the process starts.

it has been reported to take from 2 to 5 minutes (mine took approximately 2 min.)
when the update is finished the scope informs you to restart.

now jitter and ac trigger problems are "solved"

 

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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2015, 09:59:34 AM »
Hi

As new DS1054Z owners you should do yourself a favour and update to firmware 00.04.02.SP4 this "fixes" the jitter issues talked so much about
(and is reported to still being hackable)

rigol-ds1000z-ds2000-oscilloscope-jitter-problems
this links to a post from RigolUSA with links to the official sw packages.

Just copy the GEL file to a newly formatted (FAT16) USB stick
 (preferably one you have tested in the scope first)

start the scope, and after you have confirmed that you want to update the firmware,the process starts.

it has been reported to take from 2 to 5 minutes (mine took approximately 2 min.)
when the update is finished the scope informs you to restart.

now jitter and ac trigger problems are "solved"

I checked the jitter with a 1Mhz square wave, and it wasn't bad at 5us intervals, it was bad for everything between 1us and 5us, then it cleared up at 10us and beyond.

So I took your advice and flashed to SP4.  Now it's solid for everything as far as I can tell  :phew:.  It sure seems like Rigol were just guessing at their PLL coefficients and finally figured it out.

So now I'm living dangerously and running self-cal.
 

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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2015, 08:56:53 PM »
Just to clarify and confirm:

Received the 1054z today with the SP3 firmware.
Used the keygen with DSER code and unlock was successful on the first go :)
Proceeded with the SP4 update from Rigol via USB
After the update, all parameters remain unlocked.

Happy days!

I've also saved the keygen page in case it goes offline (again) - just send me a PM and I'll host it somewhere else if need be.

Thanks for the help and tips.
 

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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2015, 11:21:12 PM »

I've also saved the keygen page in case it goes offline (again) - just send me a PM and I'll host it somewhere else if need be.


Kind of you Ant, might need that when I (finally) get a 1054z!
 

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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2015, 06:36:47 AM »
After a 2 months wait I finally got my DS1054Z today.

The original page for the Firmware upgrade has been removed
but I did find it in Google Cache.

I tried the Google Cache page and entered my Serial Number
and DSFR Option and hit Generate. Also tried the DSER option.

Only gives me ERROR: INVALID PRIVATE KEY LENGTH!

Does anyone have a clue..... :-//

BTW the DSER option does not show on the Google Cache page.

The scope has version 00.04.02.SP4 with the jitter problem solved.

 
« Last Edit: April 02, 2015, 06:46:33 AM by lasersbee »
 

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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2015, 06:43:31 AM »
Go to:
http://gotroot.ca/rigol/riglol/

Use the code DSER, NOT DSFR. DSFR enables the 500uV range that does not work and causes problems.

I had to reload the page a couple of times as the first time I tried it the code dd not work.
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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2015, 06:52:48 AM »
Go to:
http://gotroot.ca/rigol/riglol/

Use the code DSER, NOT DSFR. DSFR enables the 500uV range that does not work and causes problems.

I had to reload the page a couple of times as the first time I tried it the code dd not work.

It can take quite a few reloads to get another be but DSER is the correct code. The firmware is used across a few models and not all have the same hardware. It's possible to enable features for non existing hardware and that is what causes the problem.
 

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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2015, 08:16:16 AM »
Go to:
http://gotroot.ca/rigol/riglol/

Use the code DSER, NOT DSFR. DSFR enables the 500uV range that does not work and causes problems.

I had to reload the page a couple of times as the first time I tried it the code dd not work.

It can take quite a few reloads to get another be but DSER is the correct code. The firmware is used across a few models and not all have the same hardware. It's possible to enable features for non existing hardware and that is what causes the problem.

Thank you gentlemen... will give it a try tomorrow morning when I'm back in the shop. :)
« Last Edit: April 02, 2015, 08:18:41 AM by lasersbee »
 

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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2015, 01:18:30 PM »
Only gives me ERROR: INVALID PRIVATE KEY LENGTH!

Leave the private key blank and make sure the serial number is entered correctly. The private key is derived from the serial.

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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2015, 01:11:29 AM »
Got it installed. Now I have a DS1104Z..
Thanks to all that posted.

BTW... I was not able to access the generator link above on my recently install
upgrade copy of Firefox. I tried it on an older copy install on another computer
and it worked just fine to generate a key.

 I then tried it on a latest copy of Chrome and it also worked fine.
The latest upgrade of FF still does not go to the page without this error.... :wtf:

Not Found
The requested URL /rigol/riglol/ was not found on this server. 
 

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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2015, 05:44:46 AM »
Got it installed. Now I have a DS1104Z..
Thanks to all that posted.

BTW... I was not able to access the generator link above on my recently install
upgrade copy of Firefox. I tried it on an older copy install on another computer
and it worked just fine to generate a key.

 I then tried it on a latest copy of Chrome and it also worked fine.
The latest upgrade of FF still does not go to the page without this error.... :wtf:

Not Found
The requested URL /rigol/riglol/ was not found on this server. 

Your FF is probably trying to use https, not http.
 

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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2015, 12:17:31 AM »
Got it installed. Now I have a DS1104Z..
Thanks to all that posted.

BTW... I was not able to access the generator link above on my recently install
upgrade copy of Firefox. I tried it on an older copy install on another computer
and it worked just fine to generate a key.

 I then tried it on a latest copy of Chrome and it also worked fine.
The latest upgrade of FF still does not go to the page without this error.... :wtf:

Not Found
The requested URL /rigol/riglol/ was not found on this server. 

Your FF is probably trying to use https, not http.
Yeah that is exactly what is happening. Forcing the HTTPS to HTTP has
no effect in FF.
Chrome was using the HTTP as I copied it to the URL bar and it works.

I just did a test and added the "S" to the HTTP and tried it in Chrome.
That gave me the same error. Then removing the "S" and trying it again
the damn HTTP gets replaced by HTTPS in Chrome now every time and
can no longer access the page.

I can however still get to it using Explorer.

WARNING !!! Don't force the "S" onto HTTP if your browser accepts HTTP
URLs.

I've cleared my cookies and browser histories but still get redirected to
HTTPS. There must be a way to force a browser to accept HTTP... |O

 
« Last Edit: April 04, 2015, 12:20:20 AM by lasersbee »
 

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Re: Is DS1054Z with firmware 00.04.02.SP3 hackable?
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2015, 03:33:10 AM »
I suspect it's more a case of undoing whatever you did to force it to use HTTPS..
 


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