Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware

[pastra]

Ok!
Thanks for both the link and the heads-up!

[Robuster]

Do not update your scoop it will break your scoop if the bootversion is lower than 0.0.13
I had to send back my scoop for a repair. Scoop freezes or reboots at random.
Firmware was down graded by rigol.

[madires]

So Rigol retracted the 4.04.01.01 silently without telling customers about the problem? I've got the 4.04.01.01 running on a DS1054Z with boot version 0.0.1.2. Luckily I haven't seen any issues yet.

[Stupid Beard]

So Rigol retracted the 4.04.01.01 silently without telling customers about the problem? I've got the 4.04.01.01 running on a DS1054Z with boot version 0.0.1.2. Luckily I haven't seen any issues yet.

Same here. Hopefully it remains ok. Has anyone got a link to the original post(s) on the issue? I looked the other day but couldn't find it.

[Fungus]

Same here. Hopefully it remains ok. Has anyone got a link to the original post(s) on the issue? I looked the other day but couldn't find it.

Somebody found something that looked like the old jitter problem.

Not something to lose any sleep over.

Removing it while they investigate is a good sign. I means Rigol is taking their firmware very seriously.

[Stupid Beard]

Same here. Hopefully it remains ok. Has anyone got a link to the original post(s) on the issue? I looked the other day but couldn't find it.

Somebody found something that looked like the old jitter problem.

Not something to lose any sleep over.

Removing it while they investigate is a good sign. I means Rigol is taking their firmware very seriously.

Oh, if that's all it is then that's fine. I thought it was something like the scope crashing hard and being unrecoverable.

Thank you 

[BravoV]

Do not update your scoop it will break your scoop if the bootversion is lower than 0.0.13
I had to send back my scoop for a repair. Scoop freezes or reboots at random.
Firmware was down graded by rigol.

Robuster, where did you get that info ? (highlighted above) From Rigol ?

[Fungus]

Somebody found something that looked like the old jitter problem.

Oh, if that's all it is then that's fine. I thought it was something like the scope crashing hard and being unrecoverable.

Thank you 

Here's the post:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-rigol-ds1054z-oscilloscope/msg1066587/#msg1066587

[Robuster]

Yes i have that info from Rigol. They flashed an older firmware version on my scoop and the problems where solved. They told me the new firmware gives problems with older pre bootversion 0.0.13. devices. They are working on new firmware to solve the probleem.

[Stupid Beard]

Somebody found something that looked like the old jitter problem.

Oh, if that's all it is then that's fine. I thought it was something like the scope crashing hard and being unrecoverable.

Thank you 

Here's the post:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-rigol-ds1054z-oscilloscope/msg1066587/#msg1066587

Thanks. I think I did read that before, but I didn't twig because I was expecting something much more serious due to the post about Robuster's bricked scope.

[Robuster]

It was not bricked, mostly it freezes after one to two hours. Also the scoop reboots for no reason.
I thought it was a hardware failure so I send it to Rigol for a repair.

This is what I got from Rigol:
  Bootversion </= 0.0.0.12 doesn't work.
  Bootversion starting 0.0.0.13: New update works.
  Sometimes problems (randomly rebooting) occur with 0.0.0.13, R&D is informed and working on a new firmware.

[Skimask]

Do not update your scoop it will break your scoop if the bootversion is lower than 0.0.13
I had to send back my scoop for a repair. Scoop freezes or reboots at random.
Firmware was down graded by rigol.

Robuster, where did you get that info ? (highlighted above) From Rigol ?

Don't worry.  It only affects his scoop.
You're scope will be just fine 

[alsetalokin4017]

All this stuff is confusing enough without getting the zeros and period points in the wrong places.

What we call "firmware" is what the scope calls "Software", and the scope's "Firmware" is actually something different, which is not changed by our "firmware" updates.

And if Rigol knows a method to roll back or install an earlier version of the "firmware" (actually the "Software") why don't they just tell us how to do it?

[Robuster]

I have looked to the firmware/software they put on my scoop.
As you can seen it looks like a special version of 00.04.04.01.01 but then with version number 01.04.04.01.01
I hoop i can update if a new version from rigol is available.

[newbrain]

I hoop i can update if a new version from rigol is available.

I see what you did there...

[2N3055]

I have looked to the firmware/software they put on my scoop
.............................
I hoop i can update if a new version from rigol is available.

Lol mate, good one...

[ProBang2]

@ Robuster

Sorry, I am just curious: How old is your scope?

[Robuster]

It's 3 years old.

[LektroiD]

Is it possible to upgrade the boot version?

Before anyone says search the forums, I've already done several searches for this on here, but getting thousands of results, it's like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

[alsetalokin4017]

Is it possible to upgrade the boot version?

Before anyone says search the forums, I've already done several searches for this on here, but getting thousands of results, it's like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

I have asked this question many times myself. I've even directly asked a RigolUSA technician, and I've never gotten a real answer. So as far as I am aware, the answer must be "NO", at least not by any means that we users have available to us.

It is also not possible, ordinarily, to "roll back" to an earlier version of the "firmware" once a later version is installed. However, looking at the posts up above, maybe there is a way to "trick" the scope into accepting an earlier version if it can be re-named to fool the scope into thinking it is actually a later version. Unfortunately no update method that I know of will change the Boot Version.

And since Rigol didn't change the Boot Version of Robuster's  scope they "fixed" up above... maybe there is really no way it can be done.

[bitseeker]

This is just from memory so take it with however many grains of salt you deem appropriate. There was once, way back when, a firmware update that included a boot update along with it. That's the only instance I recall seeing where the boot version was changed and it wasn't an independent thing you could install. It rode along with a firmware update, which I assume relied on whatever changed in the boot upgrade.

[Towger]

Bitseeker, is correct.  I got a copy of it from Rigol a year or two ago.

[Neo2199]

From the discussion above I am not sure what is the latest best firmware for bootloader version above 0.0.13 ?

[LektroiD]

Bitseeker, is correct.  I got a copy of it from Rigol a year or two ago.

Any chance you could PM a copy to me? I have a very early bootloader version on my scope, incompatible with current firmwares.

[Plasmateur]

Has anyone wrote some good labview VI's for this model? I can't seem to find anything on NI's website outside of the old VI's written in 2012