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Title: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: ebclr on July 21, 2016, 07:38:36 am
It's even better

Now XY is big, At least Rigol update firmware frequently, My poor Owon still on the same firmware as I bougth 4 years ago
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: alsetalokin4017 on July 21, 2016, 08:30:34 am
... for certain values of "Frequently" ....

Last update was at least 10 months ago. And the update just released still has the "Pluses" spelling error.     :-//
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Fungus on July 21, 2016, 09:12:18 am
... for certain values of "Frequently" ....

Last update was at least 10 months ago. And the update just released still has the "Pluses" spelling error.     :-//

What about other things?

Quote
[Updated Contents]
--------------------
v00.04.04.00.07  2016/07/19
     - Added the full-screen display in the XY mode
     - Modified the Trace data of average sample mode
     - Fixed the bug of system halted for wave persistance in the Zoom mode
     - Fixed bugs about Measure

Does "Fixed bugs about Measure" mean the measurements now work in math mode?

Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: alsetalokin4017 on July 21, 2016, 09:53:37 am
I don't know. I haven't installed the firmware yet. Maybe someone who has done so can run through some tests to find out.

After reading about the one user who had the bad experience (LEDs misbehaving) I'm reluctant to try it. Even though I would love to have the fullscreen x-y display.


Talk about "not parsing"... I've never been able to decode much of the Chinglish in the changelogs. What does "Modified the Trace data of average sample mode" actually mean? Did this address some bug, and if so which one?
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Fungus on July 21, 2016, 10:33:21 am
After reading about the one user who had the bad experience (LEDs misbehaving) I'm reluctant to try it. Even though I would love to have the fullscreen x-y display.

That doesn't sound like a firmware problem to me - he says the scope runs fine apart from the LEDs. Seems more like a hardware problem (bad flash memory cell?).

Talk about "not parsing"... I've never been able to decode much of the Chinglish in the changelogs. What does "Modified the Trace data of average sample mode" actually mean? Did this address some bug, and if so which one?

"average sample mode" is easy.

"Modified the Trace" sounds like they modified the wiggly line on screen.
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: jjoonathan on July 21, 2016, 11:29:20 am
On my DS4014 I've seen much more granular quantization than I ought to when taking certain measurements (e.g. it will fluctuate between 1.000V and 1.034V, nothing in-between, on a quantity that should involve heavy averaging). This suggests to me that they're doing something silly like storing the math result in an 8 bit field *after* dividing by N. IIRC I saw the same problem on my DS1054Z -- maybe this patch fixes it?
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: alsetalokin4017 on July 21, 2016, 12:44:52 pm
So you think that by "average sample mode" they might mean Average _Acquire_ mode? Or perhaps they are referring to the Measurements "average" which is something different?
 
"Modified the trace _data_" could mean just about anything, from modifying the wiggly line on the screen, to modifying what goes into the Measurements averages, to something else entirely.  What bug could this be fixing?
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: rstofer on July 21, 2016, 02:22:32 pm
So you think that by "average sample mode" they might mean Average _Acquire_ mode? Or perhaps they are referring to the Measurements "average" which is something different?
 
"Modified the trace _data_" could mean just about anything, from modifying the wiggly line on the screen, to modifying what goes into the Measurements averages, to something else entirely.  What bug could this be fixing?

It never said anything about FIXING a bug, they simply inserted a brand new bug called "Modified the trace_data...".
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: mgotter on July 22, 2016, 12:58:51 am
How did you get the update?  I still see the previous version on Rigol's website.
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: kwass on July 22, 2016, 03:45:15 am
How did you get the update?  I still see the previous version on Rigol's website.

It's here: http://int.rigol.com/Product/Index/4 (http://int.rigol.com/Product/Index/4)
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: mgotter on July 22, 2016, 04:33:08 am
How did you get the update?  I still see the previous version on Rigol's website.

It's here: http://int.rigol.com/Product/Index/4 (http://int.rigol.com/Product/Index/4)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: The Doktor on July 22, 2016, 07:24:02 pm
Do all the upgrades still work after this update
?
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: madires on July 22, 2016, 07:35:52 pm
Do all the upgrades still work after this update?

Yes, I've updated mine today without any problems.
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: ebclr on July 23, 2016, 02:38:09 am
All upgrades / Hacks stay there as is before

Don't forget to do a recalibration after the update
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: OE2WHP on August 03, 2016, 12:19:54 pm
Updated my DS1054z. All options still working. Can't confirm the LED bug. Seems to work fine so far.

73
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: rbak on September 09, 2016, 12:56:30 pm
I am curious about the "Added the full-screen display in the XY mode" that was added in the 00.04.04.00.07 release. Can someone perhaps post a screenshot of that here?
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: alsetalokin4017 on September 09, 2016, 11:53:29 pm
Here you go.
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: rbak on September 09, 2016, 11:57:24 pm
Excellent! Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: raptor1956 on September 10, 2016, 09:03:37 am
Is there a wiki or some other source that list the various firmware versions and when they were released?  I have a fairly new 1054Z with 00.04.03.SP2 and board version 0.1.4 and I'd like to have the full size XY screen but since there appears to be some bugs I think I'll hold off for a while.  Just curious about hoe frequently they do an update...


Brian
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Fungus on September 10, 2016, 10:57:35 am
I'd like to have the full size XY screen but since there appears to be some bugs I think I'll hold off for a while.

There's less bugs in this version than ever before.

Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: iainwhite on September 10, 2016, 02:14:57 pm
Is there a wiki or some other source that list the various firmware versions and when they were released?  I have a fairly new 1054Z with 00.04.03.SP2 and board version 0.1.4 and I'd like to have the full size XY screen but since there appears to be some bugs I think I'll hold off for a while.  Just curious about hoe frequently they do an update...
Brian

Brian,
Here are the latest release notes (see attachment) - there is a history.


Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: RoGeorge on October 10, 2016, 11:54:40 am


Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: pastra on November 09, 2016, 10:31:11 am
I can't find the firmware on rigol site (http://int.rigol.com/Product/Index/4 (http://int.rigol.com/Product/Index/4)), only 00.04.03.
Am I blind or has it moved?

Anyone have a direct link to the download?
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Bicurico on November 09, 2016, 10:44:50 am
It has been removed, because a user has detected a potential bug. This was discussed on a separate thread on this forum... I am too lazy to look up the thread, but you should easily find it.

Regards,
Vitor
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: StuUK on November 09, 2016, 11:27:16 am
It has been removed, because a user has detected a potential bug. This was discussed on a separate thread on this forum... I am too lazy to look up the thread, but you should easily find it.

Regards,
Vitor


The link has been removed but the file can be downloaded from it's original location here:-

http://int.rigol.com/File/ProductSoftWare/20160914/DS1000Z(ARM)update.rar (http://int.rigol.com/File/ProductSoftWare/20160914/DS1000Z(ARM)update.rar)

That's not to suggest you should given that they must have a reason for removing the latest update link
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: pastra on November 09, 2016, 02:04:39 pm
Ok!
Thanks for both the link and the heads-up!
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Robuster on November 09, 2016, 08:38:21 pm
Do not update your scoop it will break your scoop if the bootversion is lower than 0.0.13
I had to send back my scoop for a repair. Scoop freezes or reboots at random.
Firmware was down graded by rigol.
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: madires on November 10, 2016, 12:10:51 pm
So Rigol retracted the 4.04.01.01 silently without telling customers about the problem? I've got the 4.04.01.01 running on a DS1054Z with boot version 0.0.1.2. Luckily I haven't seen any issues yet.
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Stupid Beard on November 10, 2016, 03:16:36 pm
So Rigol retracted the 4.04.01.01 silently without telling customers about the problem? I've got the 4.04.01.01 running on a DS1054Z with boot version 0.0.1.2. Luckily I haven't seen any issues yet.

Same here. Hopefully it remains ok. Has anyone got a link to the original post(s) on the issue? I looked the other day but couldn't find it.
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Fungus on November 10, 2016, 03:34:45 pm
Same here. Hopefully it remains ok. Has anyone got a link to the original post(s) on the issue? I looked the other day but couldn't find it.

Somebody found something that looked like the old jitter problem.

Not something to lose any sleep over.

Removing it while they investigate is a good sign. I means Rigol is taking their firmware very seriously.
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Stupid Beard on November 10, 2016, 05:42:11 pm
Same here. Hopefully it remains ok. Has anyone got a link to the original post(s) on the issue? I looked the other day but couldn't find it.

Somebody found something that looked like the old jitter problem.

Not something to lose any sleep over.

Removing it while they investigate is a good sign. I means Rigol is taking their firmware very seriously.

Oh, if that's all it is then that's fine. I thought it was something like the scope crashing hard and being unrecoverable.

Thank you  :-+
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: BravoV on November 10, 2016, 05:54:48 pm
Do not update your scoop it will break your scoop if the bootversion is lower than 0.0.13
I had to send back my scoop for a repair. Scoop freezes or reboots at random.
Firmware was down graded by rigol.

Robuster, where did you get that info ? (highlighted above) From Rigol ?
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Fungus on November 10, 2016, 06:00:51 pm
Somebody found something that looked like the old jitter problem.
Oh, if that's all it is then that's fine. I thought it was something like the scope crashing hard and being unrecoverable.

Thank you  :-+

Here's the post:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-rigol-ds1054z-oscilloscope/msg1066587/#msg1066587 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-rigol-ds1054z-oscilloscope/msg1066587/#msg1066587)
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Robuster on November 10, 2016, 10:40:21 pm
Yes i have that info from Rigol. They flashed an older firmware version on my scoop and the problems where solved. They told me the new firmware gives problems with older pre bootversion 0.0.13. devices. They are working on new firmware to solve the probleem.
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Stupid Beard on November 11, 2016, 12:08:14 am
Somebody found something that looked like the old jitter problem.
Oh, if that's all it is then that's fine. I thought it was something like the scope crashing hard and being unrecoverable.

Thank you  :-+

Here's the post:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-rigol-ds1054z-oscilloscope/msg1066587/#msg1066587 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-rigol-ds1054z-oscilloscope/msg1066587/#msg1066587)

Thanks. I think I did read that before, but I didn't twig because I was expecting something much more serious due to the post about Robuster's bricked scope.
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Robuster on November 11, 2016, 07:49:18 am
It was not bricked, mostly it freezes after one to two hours. Also the scoop reboots for no reason.
I thought it was a hardware failure so I send it to Rigol for a repair.

This is what I got from Rigol:
  Bootversion </= 0.0.0.12 doesn't work.
  Bootversion starting 0.0.0.13: New update works.
  Sometimes problems (randomly rebooting) occur with 0.0.0.13, R&D is informed and working on a new firmware.
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Skimask on November 11, 2016, 07:54:31 am
Do not update your scoop it will break your scoop if the bootversion is lower than 0.0.13
I had to send back my scoop for a repair. Scoop freezes or reboots at random.
Firmware was down graded by rigol.

Robuster, where did you get that info ? (highlighted above) From Rigol ?

Don't worry.  It only affects his scoop.
You're scope will be just fine  :-DD
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: alsetalokin4017 on November 11, 2016, 08:04:02 am
All this stuff is confusing enough without getting the zeros and period points in the wrong places.

What we call "firmware" is what the scope calls "Software", and the scope's "Firmware" is actually something different, which is not changed by our "firmware" updates.

And if Rigol knows a method to roll back or install an earlier version of the "firmware" (actually the "Software") why don't they just tell us how to do it?
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Robuster on November 11, 2016, 09:25:53 am
I have looked to the firmware/software they put on my scoop.
As you can seen it looks like a special version of 00.04.04.01.01 but then with version number 01.04.04.01.01
I hoop i can update if a new version from rigol is available.

Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: newbrain on November 11, 2016, 09:35:54 am
I hoop i can update if a new version from rigol is available.
I see what you did there... :-DD
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: 2N3055 on November 11, 2016, 09:51:54 am
I have looked to the firmware/software they put on my scoop
.............................
I hoop i can update if a new version from rigol is available.

Lol mate, good one... :-+
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: ProBang2 on November 11, 2016, 09:56:37 am

@ Robuster

Sorry, I am just curious: How old is your scope?
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Robuster on November 11, 2016, 10:03:34 am
It's 3 years old.
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: LektroiD on March 28, 2017, 08:42:48 am
Is it possible to upgrade the boot version?

Before anyone says search the forums, I've already done several searches for this on here, but getting thousands of results, it's like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: alsetalokin4017 on March 28, 2017, 09:38:50 am
Is it possible to upgrade the boot version?

Before anyone says search the forums, I've already done several searches for this on here, but getting thousands of results, it's like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

I have asked this question many times myself. I've even directly asked a RigolUSA technician, and I've never gotten a real answer. So as far as I am aware, the answer must be "NO", at least not by any means that we users have available to us.

It is also not possible, ordinarily, to "roll back" to an earlier version of the "firmware" once a later version is installed. However, looking at the posts up above, maybe there is a way to "trick" the scope into accepting an earlier version if it can be re-named to fool the scope into thinking it is actually a later version. Unfortunately no update method that I know of will change the Boot Version.

And since Rigol didn't change the Boot Version of Robuster's  scope they "fixed" up above... maybe there is really no way it can be done.
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: bitseeker on March 28, 2017, 05:53:26 pm
This is just from memory so take it with however many grains of salt you deem appropriate. There was once, way back when, a firmware update that included a boot update along with it. That's the only instance I recall seeing where the boot version was changed and it wasn't an independent thing you could install. It rode along with a firmware update, which I assume relied on whatever changed in the boot upgrade.
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Towger on March 28, 2017, 08:07:19 pm
Bitseeker, is correct.  I got a copy of it from Rigol a year or two ago.
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Neo2199 on April 02, 2017, 05:11:18 pm
From the discussion above I am not sure what is the latest best firmware for bootloader version above 0.0.13 ?
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: LektroiD on May 07, 2017, 12:39:06 am
Bitseeker, is correct.  I got a copy of it from Rigol a year or two ago.

Any chance you could PM a copy to me? I have a very early bootloader version on my scope, incompatible with current firmwares.
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Plasmateur on May 07, 2017, 01:31:57 am
Has anyone wrote some good labview VI's for this model? I can't seem to find anything on NI's website outside of the old VI's written in 2012
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Towger on May 07, 2017, 05:48:51 am


Bitseeker, is correct.  I got a copy of it from Rigol a year or two ago.

Any chance you could PM a copy to me? I have a very early bootloader version on my scope, incompatible with current firmwares.

It will be Tuesday before I can have a look for it.
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: LektroiD on May 07, 2017, 07:38:18 am
Much appreciated. Thank you!
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: Towger on May 09, 2017, 09:13:09 am
PM Sent.

Edit:

I downloaded the latest version and a fix for  0.0.0.13 is in it:

[Updated Contents]
--------------------
v00.04.04.03.02  2017/02/06
     - Improved the LXI module
     - Fixed the freeze problem when upgrading based on the boot version of
       0.0.0.13
     - Improved the menu in the language of Traditional Chinese and Korean
     - Modified the failure when downloading waveform to the source module
     - Fixed bugs about reading the memory data through SCPI commands
     - Fixed bugs about Measure
     - Fixed bugs about Filter
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: ebclr on May 09, 2017, 09:24:28 am
If is a bug, Isn't a hard one, I'm using on a daily basis as a scope, not a meter, and nothing hardly wrong
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: phd0 on March 29, 2018, 07:02:21 pm
[Supported Model]    All the MSO/DS1000Z Series Digital Oscilloscopes
[Latest Revision Firmware Date]  2017/03/24

[Updated Contents]
--------------------
v00.04.04.03.02  2017/02/06
     - Improved the LXI module
     - Fixed the freeze problem when upgrading based on the boot version of
       0.0.0.13
     - Improved the menu in the language of Traditional Chinese and Korean
     - Modified the failure when downloading waveform to the source module
     - Fixed bugs about reading the memory data through SCPI commands
     - Fixed bugs about Measure
     - Fixed bugs about Filter

Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: IAmBack on March 30, 2018, 08:54:08 am
It's one year old... I think it was already posted.
Title: Re: Just Upgrade my Rigol DS1054Z to the 4.04 firmware
Post by: ebastler on March 30, 2018, 10:19:59 am
It's one year old... I think it was already posted.

Yes indeed. Two posts above, reply #52.  ::)