I've just discovered Metraport 32S
Which I found as very useful universal Multimeter
The 40s is the current model.
I think it would fit in the excel list as a further Metrawatt Item.
Uh, the BM869 is only 251$ for the meter and ~60$ for the IR connection cable. (tme.eu) (USD cost)In Europe, you have to add VAT to the TME prices, which is quite substantial. As I said, those prices will vary from one region to the other. You will have to do your own research to find the best deal, delivered to your house.
and not everyone really needs the IR cable or computer logging.
you should probably add a little tab for cat 2/3/4 ratings, and possibly scratch off the ratings for meters whose internal construction does not satisfy those ratings.
I really love your idea though.
Uh, the BM869 is only 251$ for the meter and ~60$ for the IR connection cable. (tme.eu) (USD cost)In Europe, you have to add VAT to the TME prices, which is quite substantial. As I said, those prices will vary from one region to the other. You will have to do your own research to find the best deal, delivered to your house.
and not everyone really needs the IR cable or computer logging.
you should probably add a little tab for cat 2/3/4 ratings, and possibly scratch off the ratings for meters whose internal construction does not satisfy those ratings.
I really love your idea though.
The BM869 has %4-20mA, maybe you can change temp. to '2'Thanks, correction will appear soon, BM867 will be included. PC connection is under IR.
Maybe also add the BM867
Maybe also add a column to indicate optional connection to PC
Also if possible add a hyperlink in the excel file to the specsheet if available
http://www.brymen.com/product-html/cata860/BM860_Catalog.pdf (http://www.brymen.com/product-html/cata860/BM860_Catalog.pdf)
The 32s is very unusual. Input protection is rather strange. A 380VAC fuse on the mA range and a resettable circuit breaker 240VAC/50VDC, combined with a 500VAC fusible link. The AC bandwidth is not great at 1kHz only.I like it very much, because it has an unique hold feature, it allows to connect the test object, wait for acoustical feedback. The measure is frozen until I drop it.
The form factor may suit some people though.
If I may, only two small points to be corrected IMHO:Thanks Nermash, corrected.
1. Fluke 87V does not have LowZ mode
2. Both Fluke 287/289 have InputAlert jack warning
Most of the Gossen meters have that auto hold feature. If the next measurement is very close to the first one (less than 100 digits on the 26S), you get two beeps . If the new measurement is different, only one beep.
The first measurement is used as the reference throughout.
The 32s is only rated CAT II 300V, which is fine for automotive or electronic work.
Uni-T UT71 is rated at 5A continuous ;)Oops, quite right, forgot about that. The 61E too.
Great work , thanks ! :-+Interesting aspects, but they will only affect a minority of users, so best left out I think, but thanks anyway.
Although there are many others more, I think these extra specifications are interesting aspect as well, suggesting to add 2 more columns for "Operating" Temperature and Altitude if applicable or stated by the manufacturer.
These are for Fluke :
87 V, 287 and 289 :
Operating Temperature : -20 °C to 55 °C
Operating altitude :
87 V : 2000 m
287 & 289 : 3000 m
Again, just a suggestion.
Maybe a simple index of whether the meters generally meet their spec...
Some indication of general "trustworthiness" would be helpful since I only recognize one to two brands.
Most of these meters are from reputable companies. Some of them come standard with calibration certificates or as an extra option.Maybe a simple index of whether the meters generally meet their spec...
I think this would be great, if say, you don't recognize a Fluke from a whatever... Some indication of general "trustworthiness" would be helpful since I only recognize one to two brands.
I just spent some time doing my home style "calibration". I bought a DMM check and in short, my 30 year old Fluke 8050A's spec'd to be about 0.1% accurate, look to be more like 0.01% accurate after 30 years. Some cheap UEI meters are much newer, and at the edge or just outside their specs of 1%.
Great work , thanks ! :-+
Although there are many others more, I think these extra specifications are interesting aspect as well, suggesting to add 2 more columns for "Operating" Temperature and Altitude if applicable or stated by the manufacturer.
These are for Fluke :
87 V, 287 and 289 :
Operating Temperature : -20 °C to 55 °C
Operating altitude :
87 V : 2000 m
287 & 289 : 3000 m
Again, just a suggestion.
Fluke 115 does not have LowZ mode and it does not have proper jack detection. It only displays "Lead" warningn when you turn the switch to current measurement.It has a LoZ feature for capacitance measurement. The feature may not work for ghost voltage detection though. Fluke still calls it LoZ mode.
Great!!!I limit the file to meters with a resolution of at least 6000.
I started a little Fluke file.
Here's what I got so far using your spreadsheet. double check my entries. The accuracy, I am not sure how you entered that.
Nice list, 2 things can be added:Just about all meters in the list have an auto-off feature, except for the 61E. Configurable is nice, but not a major deal breaker.
* (configurable) auto off
* dial knob with only off-volt-ohm-amp or with 20+positions (there is some correlation with autorange)
Fluke 115 does not have LowZ mode and it does not have proper jack detection. It only displays "Lead" warningn when you turn the switch to current measurement.
It has a LoZ feature for capacitance measurement. The feature may not work for ghost voltage detection though. Fluke still calls it LoZ mode.
I would have Franky, but it is only a 4,000 count meter, as far as I know, unless there is a new version??
In ac measurement functions, MAX and MIN values are
peak values, AVG is the rms value. This provides the
necessary information in one display for calculation of
Crest Factor (peak/rms).
Which DMM can properly test LEDs, ie light them up and show the voltage? I know some of them only go up to 2.5V and some are 4V.
I am a bit lost on how you chose "the best". Could you elaborate? My tired mind can think right now.To put it simply, any meter which has an amber box in the list of features is disqualified.
Wytnucls, any plan to consider to put the dimension and weight ?
For sure one thing I don't like about my 287, its like holding a real brick, bulky & heavy. :-[
You should revise the UT61E then as having an auto-hold, even if it is undocumented.I agree, but it would be a real headache if I have to search for undocumented features and work-arounds. I prefer to stick to the published datasheet as the major reference.
I would also not be too hard on meters that don't have an auto-hold feature as long as they have a Min/Max feature that can stand in. It is a bit of a work around but in the random circumstance that you need this function is is good enough. JUST my 2 cents.
We could debate which multimeter functions are important until the cows come home.
The second page of the spreadsheet file is all set for filtering, where people can narrow the field down, based on their preferences, to eventually find their perfect instrument.
What a great spreadsheet!, thanks!
Just a couple of comments regarding the HP3478A bemch meter:
1. It has HP-IB (GPIB)
2. Regarding the accuracy - it seems you are quoting the"old" specs, the accuracy specs were improved (for any meter with a serial number greater than 2520A22585) you can see the new specs in the "new" brochure here: http://www.ko4bb.com/Manuals/HP_Agilent/HP_3478A_Multimeter/HP_3478A_3468A_B.pdf (http://www.ko4bb.com/Manuals/HP_Agilent/HP_3478A_Multimeter/HP_3478A_3468A_B.pdf) and the "new" operators manual : http://www.ko4bb.com/Manuals/HP_Agilent/HP_3478A_Multimeter/HP_3478A_SM_Rev2.pdf (http://www.ko4bb.com/Manuals/HP_Agilent/HP_3478A_Multimeter/HP_3478A_SM_Rev2.pdf)
The best accuracy, for this revision, is 0.006% of reading + 2 digits (for the 3V range)
I do not know how to show this in the spreadsheet, perhaps you can add a comment on the specs cell?
Thanks again!
Ran
Very well done. Might want to include a channels option or something. The Keithley 199 is technically an 8 channel meter.
That is quite possible. Both of the meters I have came with the scanner card. They were purchased as is stock from a company. So I'm not sure how rare or not they are.Very well done. Might want to include a channels option or something. The Keithley 199 is technically an 8 channel meter.
Might do that later. It seems that most of those channel scanners were optional though, and thus possibly quite rare. Thanks for the info.
Didn't notice input impedance in the spreadsheet. Probably not necessary since all mm are 10Mohms? Just guessing.Actually many bench meters can have input impedance in the gigaohm range. The problem is unlike handheld meters, the impedance often varies based on the input range. For example, the Keithley 199 has >1 Gigaohm for its lowest two ranges dropping to 10 Megaohms in the 300V range. This would be hard for him to include in the spreadsheet.
Siglent have bench meters now as well. Only Chinese page so far... http://siglent.com/cn/product/detail2.aspx?id=100000003069375&nodecode=105008002 (http://siglent.com/cn/product/detail2.aspx?id=100000003069375&nodecode=105008002)Description from my price list:
@WytnuclsAfter some study, I found a thread introducing the SDM3000 series back in May.
I have put together a doc with the Siglent SDM3055 general specs and links to more info.
Do I PM them to you?
This UNI-T UT533 is probably one of the cheapest ones available that fits your requirements:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UT533-Insulation-Resistance-Multimeters-up-to-1000V-2G-/380137141736?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5881f075e8 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/UT533-Insulation-Resistance-Multimeters-up-to-1000V-2G-/380137141736?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5881f075e8)
http://www.uni-trend.com/UT533.html (http://www.uni-trend.com/UT533.html)
(http://img.dxcdn.com/productimages/sku_201061_1.jpg)
Minipa of Brazil has been acquired by UNI-T:
http://www.uni-trend.com.cn/en/news/2014_0901_964.html (http://www.uni-trend.com.cn/en/news/2014_0901_964.html)
http://www.minipa.com.br/ (http://www.minipa.com.br/)
Looking for a review on the DT-9919.The DT-9919 has some family roots with the Extech EX505 (eevblog #99 - $100 shootout) and this photo teardown
was mastech a part of yihua? or the other way around ?https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/product-review-dmm-latest-va-mastech-va18b/msg128081/#msg128081 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/product-review-dmm-latest-va-mastech-va18b/msg128081/#msg128081)
This is a fantastic resource! I really appreciate all that it takes to compile and maintain a list like this. As I zero in on my decision, I want to be sure that I truly have this correct...I'm not sure I understand your post. Accuracy is never better than resolution. In your 50,000 resolution example, the accuracy of 0.02%+2, means that your 5V reading could be anywhere between 5.0012V and 4.9988V and still be within specs.
I get the difference between Accuracy and Precision, so we don't need to go there. But I notice on some of the higher end units (50,000 counts at .02% + 2 digits), it seems like the precision exceeds the accuracy.
So if I measure 5 volts, it should show as 5.0000 (that would be th 50,000 counts of precision - correct?) .02% would then be +/- .001 V (ignoring the +2 digits for now). If I am correct to this point, then the last digit exceeds the accuracy of the device. Am I thinking of this correctly?
I'm not sure I understand your post. Accuracy is never better than resolution. In your 50,000 resolution example, the accuracy of 0.02%+2, means that your 5V reading could be anywhere between 5.0012V and 4.9988V and still be within specs.
Accuracy is never better than resolution.
Some Fluke app notes to help you choose a multimeter:Would it be better to embed these links in the first post?
1. ABCs of DMMs - Multimeter features and functions explained http://media.fluke.com/documents/2100079_6003_ENG_C_W.pdf (http://media.fluke.com/documents/2100079_6003_ENG_C_W.pdf)
2. ABCs of multimeter safety http://media.fluke.com/documents/1263690_6003_ENG_J_W.PDF (http://media.fluke.com/documents/1263690_6003_ENG_J_W.PDF)
3. Dual impedance digital multimeters http://media.fluke.com/documents/2718074_0000_ENG_B_W.PDF (http://media.fluke.com/documents/2718074_0000_ENG_B_W.PDF)
4. Why true RMS http://media.fluke.com/documents/1260729_0000_ENG_E_W.PDF (http://media.fluke.com/documents/1260729_0000_ENG_E_W.PDF)
5. How robust is your handheld multimeter? http://media.fluke.com/documents/4100693_0000_ENG_A_W.PDF (http://media.fluke.com/documents/4100693_0000_ENG_A_W.PDF)
6. Multimeter measurements on variable frequency drives http://media.fluke.com/documents/3291974_0000_ENG_A_W.PDF (http://media.fluke.com/documents/3291974_0000_ENG_A_W.PDF)
7. Ten dumb things smart people do when testing electricity http://media.fluke.com/documents/2071940_6003_ENG_B_W.pdf (http://media.fluke.com/documents/2071940_6003_ENG_B_W.pdf)
8. Testing your test leads http://media.fluke.com/documents/3185695_6003_ENG_A_W.pdf (http://media.fluke.com/documents/3185695_6003_ENG_A_W.pdf)
9. How to use Fast/Peak Min/Max on your DMM http://media.fluke.com/documents/2722845_6116_ENG_A_W.PDF (http://media.fluke.com/documents/2722845_6116_ENG_A_W.PDF)
10. Understanding specifications for precision multimeters http://media.fluke.com/documents/2547797_6203_ENG_B_W.PDF (http://media.fluke.com/documents/2547797_6203_ENG_B_W.PDF)
11. Who sets the rules for electrical testing and safety? http://media.fluke.com/documents/2173075_6003_ENG_B_W.pdf (http://media.fluke.com/documents/2173075_6003_ENG_B_W.pdf)
Some Fluke app notes to help you choose a multimeter:
1. ABCs of DMMs - Multimeter features and functions explained http://media.fluke.com/documents/2100079_6003_ENG_C_W.pdf (http://media.fluke.com/documents/2100079_6003_ENG_C_W.pdf)
2. ABCs of multimeter safety http://media.fluke.com/documents/1263690_6003_ENG_J_W.PDF (http://media.fluke.com/documents/1263690_6003_ENG_J_W.PDF)
3. Dual impedance digital multimeters http://media.fluke.com/documents/2718074_0000_ENG_B_W.PDF (http://media.fluke.com/documents/2718074_0000_ENG_B_W.PDF)
4. Why true RMS http://media.fluke.com/documents/1260729_0000_ENG_E_W.PDF (http://media.fluke.com/documents/1260729_0000_ENG_E_W.PDF)
5. How robust is your handheld multimeter? http://media.fluke.com/documents/4100693_0000_ENG_A_W.PDF (http://media.fluke.com/documents/4100693_0000_ENG_A_W.PDF)
6. Multimeter measurements on variable frequency drives http://media.fluke.com/documents/3291974_0000_ENG_A_W.PDF (http://media.fluke.com/documents/3291974_0000_ENG_A_W.PDF)
7. Ten dumb things smart people do when testing electricity http://media.fluke.com/documents/2071940_6003_ENG_B_W.pdf (http://media.fluke.com/documents/2071940_6003_ENG_B_W.pdf)
8. Testing your test leads http://media.fluke.com/documents/3185695_6003_ENG_A_W.pdf (http://media.fluke.com/documents/3185695_6003_ENG_A_W.pdf)
9. How to use Fast/Peak Min/Max on your DMM http://media.fluke.com/documents/2722845_6116_ENG_A_W.PDF (http://media.fluke.com/documents/2722845_6116_ENG_A_W.PDF)
10. Understanding specifications for precision multimeters http://media.fluke.com/documents/2547797_6203_ENG_B_W.PDF (http://media.fluke.com/documents/2547797_6203_ENG_B_W.PDF)
11. Who sets the rules for electrical testing and safety? http://media.fluke.com/documents/2173075_6003_ENG_B_W.pdf (http://media.fluke.com/documents/2173075_6003_ENG_B_W.pdf)
Like Dave says often, it is hard to please everybody.+1
Unfortunately, there is no other free database that I'm aware of, unless you decide to make a better one, with your own biases.
Here is a list of the most interesting mul (http://www.volteq.com/adjustable-dc-power-supply.html)timeters for electronic work and their main features for a quick comparison. It is not an exhaustive list and will get updated as time goes by.
If you spot some glaring mistakes, let me know and I wil (http://www.volteq.com/switching-power-supply.html)l correct them.
Don't fret too much about quoted prices, as they vary wildly from one region to another.
If you feel I have left out some worthwhile DMMs, squawk here and I will try to include them.
Al (http://www.volteq.com/linear-dc-power-supply.html)l meters listed have a count of 6,000 or higher, have auto-ranging and are true RMS.
All meters (except MetraHit M30) must be able to test diodes, resistance, capacitance, frequency and current.
You will find green highlights for above average features and amber highl (http://www.volteq.com/plating-and-anodizing-rectifiers.html)ights for poor or missing important features.
Every cell with a red triangle has a note attached to it.
There is also another list suitable for filtering, to make your buying decision a little easier.
i saw peter oakes short review on U1461A. this is a very new DMM? the display seems bugged, ending up with 2 digits even though its 60000 count1) Video is here.
Thanks, I will watch out for one. Actually, I am not really into to accurate low measurements, I just want a good repeatability and good resolution. I intend to use this for finding shorts or damaged ICs in broken equipment (by measuring trace resistance).
I agree a bench multimeter would be an option, but I have already two older ones (philips pm2525), but they get rarely used (I always grab my low cost chinese portable multimeter). So I figured it was time to add a decent portable multimeter to my collection, and it seemed a good idea to have the 1mOhm resolution.
Hold yes, AutoHold no. The column reflects the presence of an auto hold feature, whereby a reading is held on the screen automatically, after measurement.I see, thank you. What happens when a multimeter has different accuracy for each range, you put the worst or the best?
From Fluke's user manual:
The AutoHOLD mode captures the present reading on
the display. When a new, stable reading is detected, the
Meter beeps and displays the new reading.
Latest spreadsheet, with additional meters that do not meet the original criteria (6,000 count and true RMS), but are still worth considering, if count or RMS measurement is not critical.
They can be found in the 'Outsiders' page and consist of Fluke and Keithley meters.
Can someone recommand a ~50USD fast(5/sec+) update rate multimeter (preferably with fast auto-range too).I can't recommend you a low price device, but what you can do is to look for reviews on youtube and see which one may work for you.
I'm surprised that update rate is not mentioned in the xls.
I've been searching but I haven't been able to track one down yet.
Thanks!
Model Duration Timer can be disabled
Fluke 87V 68s no
Brymen BM869 30s no
Brymen BM859 30s no
Uni-T UT139C 15s no
There is some info on backlight already, in cell notes. The backlight duration can be adjusted in steps on some meters, like the UT71 series.
Very few meters can have the auto OFF function disabled altogether. (So far, I've only found that feature on the Gossen Energy and the discontinued Fluke 185/183 aka Tektronix TX3/1)
I will tag those few with a '^' in their 'Light' cells.
Here is the latest Excel file with a few additions and some alterations:
New update with the latest Keysight meters and a few corrections.
Everything is readable if used with MS Excel. There are few dark blue cells and those have white fonts anyway.
Can someone explain the blind spot on Amps? If the meter says 10A max, but the spreadsheet lists 5A. Does this mean it can only read up to 5A accurately, or is it accurate across the 10A range except somewhere around 5A. If it falls out of spec at the blind spot, by how much...1%?AC current measurement, because of the true RMS converter limitation of 10% of range, is tricky. On a 40,000 count meter for instance, there is a zone below 1A on the 10A range, where measurements are not to be trusted. Ideally, the meter should have a 4A range, to cover the dead zone between 400mA and 1A . DC current measurements are not affected.
No particular reason, except that I wasn't familiar with it. It will be listed at the next revision.
(http://www.custom-cal.com/images/instruments/267/191.jpg)
No particular reason, except that I wasn't familiar with it. It will be listed at the next revision.U da man. Thanks!
What is with that updated spreadsheet download with EEVBlog DM1 branded multimeter?
Google doesn't return any results for it.
This is on Yokogawa.Not according to the Yokogawa manuals. Quote a reference with your corrections.
VFD
On TY720, TY530, TY520 but not on TY710.
LoZAgain, no LoZ on TY720. Read the manual.
TY720 has it. Other TY710, TY530, TY520 don't.
I found that530, 520 are not UL listed.
UL
All TY720, TY710, TY530, TY520 are UL listed.
This is for HIOKI.4252 600mV 20/-/5
Accuracy
DT4252 and DT4253 -> 30/-/5
DT4256 -> 30/-/3
This is on Yokogawa.Not according to the Yokogawa manuals. Quote a reference with your corrections.
VFD
On TY720, TY530, TY520 but not on TY710.
I found that530, 520 are not UL listed.
UL
All TY720, TY710, TY530, TY520 are UL listed.
http://tmi.yokogawa.com/files/uploaded/IMTY530_S01_010.pdf (http://tmi.yokogawa.com/files/uploaded/IMTY530_S01_010.pdf)
LoZAgain, no LoZ on TY720. Read the manual.
TY720 has it. Other TY710, TY530, TY520 don't.
This is for HIOKI.4252 600mV 20/-/5
Accuracy
DT4252 and DT4253 -> 30/-/5
DT4256 -> 30/-/3
4253 600mV 50/-/5
That's not a loZ function, as used to cancel false readings due to ghost voltage presence (capacitive coupling)LoZAgain, no LoZ on TY720. Read the manual.
TY720 has it. Other TY710, TY530, TY520 don't.
This is the manual.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/multimeter-spreadsheet/?action=dlattach;attach=192097)
The Hioki 4252 has a special high accuracy 600mV DC range, 0.2%+5.This is for HIOKI.4252 600mV 20/-/5
Accuracy
DT4252 and DT4253 -> 30/-/5
DT4256 -> 30/-/3
4253 600mV 50/-/5
This is the images for accuracy.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/multimeter-spreadsheet/?action=dlattach;attach=192099)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/multimeter-spreadsheet/?action=dlattach;attach=192101)
One of my favourite Bench DMM Meters .
maybe you can include it.
Texio DL-2060G http://www.texio.co.jp/en/03prod_01_04_08.html (http://www.texio.co.jp/en/03prod_01_04_08.html)
Pretty certain that is just a rebadge of the Picotest M3500A, just with a different color scheme
QuotePretty certain that is just a rebadge of the Picotest M3500A, just with a different color scheme
Yes indeed, it is the same.
Im sorry, I was not aware of the Picotest M3500A.
And the Picotest M3500A look´s like the Keithley 2100
Curious question, are the Firmware Update´s from the other Unit´s usable with my Unit ?
I can't remember where I got that figure from. I see Element 14 has it as 200hrs also. I will change it to 400hrs at the next revision.Wrt to the 200 and 400 hour confusion ....
This is about Yokogawa.
All TY720, TY710, TY530, TY520 have:
Jack
Physical port shutter.
If you don't know what to buy, get the EEVBlog Brymen 235. Safe, useful and priced right.
Yes, I know, the feature can be overridden on start. The sheet will be corrected later.
The original 87 is already listed has having a green backlight. Perhaps your software doesn't show it.
OK, I get it now. Just a straight ON/OFF button, with 2 levels of brightness.
This is on Yokogawa.
VFD
On TY720, TY530, TY520 but not on TY710.
You are correct, the TY710 doesn't come with VFD. The other meters do. All the meters have port blanking. The spreadsheet will be corrected later.
If you don't know what to buy, get the EEVBlog Brymen 235. Safe, useful and priced right.
Latest spreadsheet with a few new meters and some corrections:
Column headings are explained in the notes found on the first heading row.
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Would you please help me, isn't SIGLENT or OWON a good brands for the Benchtop Multimeters?As much as he might like to, Wytnucls can't be expected to offer advice on any equipment that he does not have, maybe based on comparison of specs yes, but you can do that for yourself.
Would you please help me, isn't SIGLENT or OWON a good brands for the Benchtop Multimeters?They are new brands in the bench top market, competing mostly with Rigol at the low end.
Thanks for this! Good info!! :-+
In case anybody else had the same problem as I did reading the comments (I have Excel 2013), I ran a quick macro to autosize all the comments so they're legible. It's the same data as the latest version on the original post as of this posting. I marked it April 2016 to be clear.
Hello there:
I find an update. The Brymen BM257 change to BM257s.Increase of 10 amperes.
And Brymen BM235 is the same.
BM867->BM867S
BM869->BM869S
BM859->BM859S
BM857->BM857S
BM829->BM829S
BM525->BM525S
http://www.lockinc.com.tw/html/product/index.aspx?brand=35 (http://www.lockinc.com.tw/html/product/index.aspx?brand=35)
What comments? The info in the cells?
Can you change the cell colors? I cannot read black font on dark blue background. I would appreciate if you can lighten up the blue a little. For example Row 2.
If not, is it possible I can get an editable version so I can change the cell colors?
thanks
At Brymen brand at line BM867 in collumn "T" there is a "v" sign. What does this "v" means? It has temperature measurement capability?TASI-8620 for $12 will keep your multimeter available for measuring something else at the same time.
Iam before of buying one like this meter, the price is affordable, it has a lot of funcionality, but I realy need to have temperature capabilities (not needed to be very accurate).
At Brymen brand at line BM867 in collumn "T" there is a "v" sign. What does this "v" means? It has temperature measurement capability?
Iam before of buying one like this meter, the price is affordable, it has a lot of funcionality, but I realy need to have temperature capabilities (not needed to be very accurate).
Correct, no temp reading on the BM867. There are likely to be some omissions and mistakes on the spreadsheet, due to the immense amount of information and sometimes erroneous or misleading specs released by the manufacturers. I rely on owners to flag those mistakes and the list should get more accurate with time. It is of course best to double check features on the manufacturer's web site, but that's not foolproof either, as I have discovered in a few instances.At Brymen brand at line BM867 in collumn "T" there is a "v" sign. What does this "v" means? It has temperature measurement capability?
Iam before of buying one like this meter, the price is affordable, it has a lot of funcionality, but I realy need to have temperature capabilities (not needed to be very accurate).
No, the BM867 does not support temp reading. Best is not to trust the xls too much, verify the specs on Brymen's documentation. I found the xls confusing in quite a few spots, so I only used it to get a rought comparison between brands and models, and then get the official specs from manufacturer's documentation.
If you need temp, get the 829s (cheaper, bit less accuracy, less resolution, but added LoZ and non contact EF) or the 869s (more expensive, slightly more accurate, added VFD as well).
760-2,6000,?,1k,x,100uV,08/-/3,100nA,10,1k,10,60M,v,1,30,2.5,30M,v,x,v,x,<,x,x,2,60s,v,A,x,x,x,x,v,x,3AAA,?,x,x,T,600,IV,?,?,x,v,£140,2
760-3,6000,?,1k,x,100uV,08/-/3,100nA,10,1k,10,60M,v,1,60,2.5,60M,v,x,v,x,<,x,x,2,60s,v,A,x,x,x,x,v,x,3AAA,?,x,x,T,1000,IV,?,?,x,v,£200,2
I can't seem to find Mastech ms8228/ms8229? could someone with the knowlage add this as well to the cheet?As mentioned in the first post, the spreadsheet contains DMMs with 6000 counts or higher.
I didnt want to make a new post for this, but I really need help here - is this a good multimeter to buy for 70€? Its used, almost new.
NEUMANN ST-9118T
http://www.neumann-messgeraete.at/ecommerce/product?category_id=344740&product_id=343956 (http://www.neumann-messgeraete.at/ecommerce/product?category_id=344740&product_id=343956)
I only quote AC bandwidth when the accuracy band is 3% or less. I will make that clearer in the next edition.
Shunt value can be derived from the burden voltage which is quoted for a few high-end meters.
I was wondering if there are columns for the following:Yes to all queries.
Temperature (NOTE: Stuff like supported range and/or thermocouple type)
Data Logging: Stored Onboard OR Streamed to PC/Android
Interface: USB OR WiFi OR BlueTooth
Also, what is "T+"?
Thanks
Tom
There is a column (UL) already for UL, GS, CSA listings (3rd from last).Ah I missed that. thanks :) :-+
I will move it closer to the CAT rating for better readability.
The claimed CAT rating is greyed out for meters with no independent listing.
It's just another rebranded CEM meter, probably a DT-9989 by the look of it. ::)Looks like DT-989 - for some reason my searches didn't find it :
A slightly unusual one - I'd not heard of this company but got an email out of the blue and they are sending me one next week - will do a video review in the next couple of weeks.
If you are looking for quality at your price point and features, I would choose either a BM857S-WB (https://www.tme.eu/en/details/bm857s-wb/portable-digital-multimeters/brymen/) or, for a slightly higher price but much better value, a BM867S (https://www.tme.eu/en/details/bm867/portable-digital-multimeters/brymen/bm867s/), which has the benefit of being specified up to 100kHz. The BM827S (https://www.tme.eu/en/details/bm827/portable-digital-multimeters/brymen/bm827s/) has a bit less counts but it is still a good value.
In the middle of the pack you have the UT61E, which has users that love and others that hate it.
https://www.batronix.com/shop/multimeter/multimeter-ut61e.html (https://www.batronix.com/shop/multimeter/multimeter-ut61e.html)
You can try your luck with one of the cheapies from Banggood:
The Aneng, which cost a fraction of your budget but don't have published bandwidth specs and is only 10k counts
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-1007-is-a- (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-1007-is-a-)$25-multimeter-any-good/msg1333864/#msg1333864
The Bside ZT302, with the same specs as above:
https://www.banggood.com/BSIDE-ZT302-Digital-Multimeter-True-RMS-9999-Counts-LED-Backlight-AC-DC-Voltage-Current-Resistance-p-1245349.html (https://www.banggood.com/BSIDE-ZT302-Digital-Multimeter-True-RMS-9999-Counts-LED-Backlight-AC-DC-Voltage-Current-Resistance-p-1245349.html)
Or the "generic branded" HY-19E with 20000 counts:
https://www.banggood.com/HY-19E-20000-Counts-NCV-Multimeter-AC-DC-Voltage-Current-Resistances-Capacitors-Diodes-Temp-Tester-p-1153062.html (https://www.banggood.com/HY-19E-20000-Counts-NCV-Multimeter-AC-DC-Voltage-Current-Resistances-Capacitors-Diodes-Temp-Tester-p-1153062.html)
The Brymens are quite good and have excellent support from the manufacturer. I don't think you can go wrong with them.
The UT61E has a bandwidth of only 10kHz - somewhat limiting for audio.
http://www.uni-trend.com/productsdetail_1971_1105_1105.html (http://www.uni-trend.com/productsdetail_1971_1105_1105.html)
Just don't forget if you try to probe the output of a 5000W concert amp! :-DD
Hello all,
I am in need of multimeter advice. The spreadsheet is awesome and I certainly can appreciate the time involved to compile that, but I am a bit lost by it all. I don't have a strong electrical background and I have always just used whatever cheap meter I had sitting around.
I am building synthesizer modules, many of which are analog. Some of these are kits and then I am also learning how to construct them from scratch.
My need for a new meter comes from a module that I am about to build. It requires a calibration process in which it is recommended to use a meter that is at least 40000 counts and has an accuracy of 4-3/4 digits. I must confess that I don't totally understand either of those two things and while I do see the counts on the spreadsheet, I don't understand the accuracy.
Anyway, if anybody can just make a recommendation or two, it would be most helpful to me. I don't need the best thing out there and really don't want to spend more than I have to on it. I suppose that if there is an option with an oscilloscope that is worth looking at, I would consider that too.
Thanks for any help!
PS - My apologies if this has been asked in some capacity. I don't have the time to pour through pages of questions and answers. I hope you understand...
In my country we have a saying "Not being able to see the forest because of all the trees".The BM257S is a good electronics meter, which includes a bargraph (good for sensing variable voltages in DC), peak measurements, frequency meter and datalogging, although the BM235 (Dave's meter sold at this website (http://www.eevblog.com/product/bm235-multimeter/)) has a 3V diode measurement voltage.
I'm looking to pull the trigger on a Brymen.
Options are:
BM257S for €109
BM239R for €109
BM829 for €155 (but having to wait 2 weeks and I kind of need it now, but if it is a much better option I can wait)
BM857R for €155
BM867R for €159
I want a meter that I can use for hobby use. Testing diodes is an important factor for me. Looking at the excel the 857 seems to be the most capable, though the 867 beats it on bandwidth.
Of the above I am not sure if the 8-series are worth the €50 extra and since they are around the same price which one I should take.
I hope somebody is able to make me a bit more informed here.
In my country we have a saying "Not being able to see the forest because of all the trees".The BM257S is a good electronics meter, which includes a bargraph (good for sensing variable voltages in DC), peak measurements, frequency meter and datalogging, although the BM235 (Dave's meter sold at this website (http://www.eevblog.com/product/bm235-multimeter/)) has a 3V diode measurement voltage.
I'm looking to pull the trigger on a Brymen.
Options are:
BM257S for €109
BM239R for €109
BM829 for €155 (but having to wait 2 weeks and I kind of need it now, but if it is a much better option I can wait)
BM857R for €155
BM867R for €159
I want a meter that I can use for hobby use. Testing diodes is an important factor for me. Looking at the excel the 857 seems to be the most capable, though the 867 beats it on bandwidth.
Of the above I am not sure if the 8-series are worth the €50 extra and since they are around the same price which one I should take.
I hope somebody is able to make me a bit more informed here.
If you want to go to the top, the price difference between the BM857S and the BM867S is not significant - I would opt for the 867S.
However, if you are working only with electronics and has no meter already, you may consider getting a pair of UT-61E DMMs, which are useful to perform simultaneous voltage/current measurements. It also has about 2.4V of diode voltage measurements (not bad) and can still lit white and blue LEDs.
Great work on the spreadsheet, have an embarrassing question as to the note placed in the Hioki UL Section denotes (KC). Could someone elaborate, caught between Keysight 1272A and Hioki 4282. My work involves both bench and field in electronics and electrical but rarely do I anticipate the Cat 4 LEVEL, but I do work on installing residential elect. panels so protection is important. Thanks for any feedback, have mt reservations on Keysight given all the flaws/bugs after doing extensive reviewing across the net but perhaps they have finally got it right.I don't have access to the spreadsheet at the moment, but "KC" usually indicates compliance with the Korean Certification Agency (check here (https://gma.ul.com/about/globalmarkets/korea/)).
Appreciate the reply and input, as I currently do not have access to the myriad of calibration/test equipment I use to have , I have to rely on advice from folks in the industry who have the experience and knowledge first hand in order to make a decision before investing a lot of money. Unfortunately I allowed an inexperienced family member borrow an older HP Multi-Meter which after 35years the specs never deviated came back toasted as well as some other test equipment.I haven't changed the leads on my U1273A, and I really like them. The cables are high quality silicone and the probes are a bit longer than the typical Fluke TL75, mostly because they have fully isolated banana jacks on both ends. Despite Dave disliked this on his review, I love it as I can easily attach several accessories such as alligator clips, clip probes and other accessories (U1162A (https://www.keysight.com/en/pd-1191774-pn-U1162A/alligator-clips?nid=-536902470.714196&cc=US&lc=eng), U1163A (https://www.keysight.com/en/pd-1191778-pn-U1163A/smt-grabbers?nid=-536902470.714197&cc=US&lc=eng), U1164A (https://www.keysight.com/en/pd-1191781-pn-U1164A/fine-tip-test-probes?nid=-536902470.714199&cc=US&lc=eng)). Also, when working on electrical systems the extra length helps keep my hand further away from the voltage source.
Received a quote on the Key-1272A for 360.00, the Hioki DT4282 $469.00 does not offer much in terms of IP but reviews I have seen it lives up to the spec and quality, the Yokogawa TY720 for approx. $431.00 which UL approval is pending the accessories are outlandishly expensive.
Given that I believe the Key -1272a gives you a lot of bag for the buck even though the consensus is the test leads are much to be desired, have you had to change the leads supplied to your unit? If so do you recommend a specific brand? Thanks again for your feedback!
Hello,Daves DMM from our moderator Simon:
which multimeter would you recommend me? My price range is 150€ ( or 200 for veeery good one, but i want rather stick up with 150€ range)
I have looked into Brymen-s multimeters, they looks really good, even internally.
Also i looked into UniT multimeters, but after few hours of searching i decided to stay away off them - they are manufactured very poorly internally.
Other brands i don't really know and there are not very much reviews for them.
The page where i want to order it is tme(dot)eu .
Iam intermediate "engineer" so i don't need lab precise equipment.
Primarily I need to measure Capacitors, Resistors , diodes. For Transistors i've got another multimeter so that's not a very big deal for me, but none of those expensive multimeters doesn't have this function. Also I don't really need to measure high AC/DC voltage. 100V AC/DC is my max in my applications.
I am working with Hi-Fi equipment so this is important for me, also i want to have better multimeter than my old one.
I'm really desperate because there is lot's of them and no one can give me the "best" solution. I was searching forums for around a week and it is starting me driving nuts. :palm:
Any help is appreciated! :-+
Also i looked into UniT multimeters, but after few hours of searching i decided to stay away off them - they are manufactured very poorly internally.Not everything from Uni-T is bad, really. For example, folks here like the UT-139C (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-trms-uni-t-ut139c-dmm-is-available-now/) which is a great meter to complement the LCR that I mentioned before. Also, the UT-210E (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/a-look-at-the-uni-t-ut210e/) is a well built choice if you need to measure very high currents using a clamp.
You didn't mention the brand of your other meter,
The list hasn't been updated in nearly 2 years. I wonder if Wytnucls is still around?Yep he is, his profile page indicates he was last active 26 Feb.
:-DMM very good this here aneng q1Not sure how or why your spam was left here but safe to say it won’t be for long
amazing! look
video brazil https://youtu.be/HEefv5qoKZI
Not sure how or why your spam was left here but safe to say it won’t be for long...Except that now it's here forever because you quoted it!
Count | AC+ | BW | DUT | Volt | Accuracy | uA | nA Acc | A | bw | m\$\Omega\$ | nS/M\$\Omega\$ | Cnt | pF | mF | Dio | Hz | % | W | T° | PC | Kit | Int Log | Clock | Disp | Light | '|'''|' | M/m | Peak | Hld | dB | LoZ | VFD | Batt | Life | F G | E Pwr | Jack | Fuse | CAT | UL | EMC | IP | P/F | 4-20 | NCV | Price | Yr |
6200 | x | 1k | x | 10uV | 05/-/5 | 10u | 120/-/5 | 5 | 1k | 100 | 60M | fast, visual, non-Adj | 10 | 100 | 3.0 | 10M | v | x | v | x | x | x | x | 1 | White, Flashlight | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | 3AAA | x | x | x | x | 250 | II 600 | x | x | x | x | x | v | $15 | x |
About counts: I realized that the Fluke 289 is 55000 counts. I know that is declared 50000 everywhere, but it's measuring 5.5000V. Some explanation?
...If you feel I have left out some worthwhile DMMs, squawk here and I will try to include them.I just got a Sunshine DT-17N DMM which ticks all of the above.
All meters listed have a count of 6,000 or higher, have auto-ranging and are true RMS.
All meters (except MetraHit M30) must be able to test diodes, resistance, capacitance, frequency and current.
You will find green highlights for above average features and amber highlights for poor or missing important features...
Thanks. It will be included in the next revision. Remember that a high count meter without a decent voltage reference will drift eventually. Not impressed with the internal construction. Beware.
I've been wondering for some time now: Does any of the Chinese OEM use feedback given on electronics forums like this to improve/fix stuff in their meters?Probably yes, given that I have seen a lot of marketing sentences and design changes reflecting what is commonly said around here - things such as ceramic fuses, demonstration of protection in all ranges, etc. It is basically free consulting services for anyone in the business.
Having spent a fair amount of time in China, I doubt very much manufacturers spend any time following discussions on electronics forums.
Have you had similar experiences with multimeter manufacturers?
Where in China was the product from?
While traditionally caps are not marked in mF (possibly to avoid confusion with nF), it is still a valid SI unit and used liberally in documentation.So therefore so it is plainly clear you've used mF, correct ?
Noticed the listing for the Siglent SDM3055 and SDM3065 don't show the scanner card option.Thanks.
https://www.tequipment.net/Siglent/SDM3065X-SC/Multimeters/ (https://www.tequipment.net/Siglent/SDM3065X-SC/Multimeters/)
Great job compiling this database. Though I was expecting to see Aneng models as well, they have a good deal of DMMs that meet the criteria.
Aneng has 8 meters listed in the database.
Aneng has 8 meters listed in the database.
It looks like some of the files in post 1 got corrupted. I will reload them soon.
Ok who's the genius that password protected the spreadsheet so I can't actually use Excel to analyze the data??The author did that. Since it is a free resource, be more respectful of someone else's time and effort - especially if you don't know the reasons.
Does anyone know how to download the current files? The first post says the last update was in March of 2021. When I download the handheld meter file, tho, the heading says "Edition: 12-Jul 2017", more than five years ago. Lots of interesting meters are missing, and many obsolete (discontinued) meters are still present.
I noticed one of the columns are labelled mF... right next to pF.
I know pF is picoFarads, so is mF meant to represent miliFarads on the capacitor measurement scale?...
Nope, that was MFD.
Milli never meant Micro, not even in countries that still measure with thumbs and sticks to this day.
that milli [ever] meant micro?
A LONG time ago, mF meant MICRO Farad.
Nope, that was MFD.
Milli never meant Micro, not even in countries that still measure with thumbs and sticks to this day.
Don't call me mate. Don't mis-quote me. Have a good life.
Since you're smart and I am dumb- how do I block you on this board?
I'm guite sure there were also mmF, but can't remember which it was, milli milli or micro micro.
Though, I do remember that either pico or nano was missing.
In Brazilian magazines the flip to nF happened through the early 70s - although I was still a toddler/young child then, during the 80s I used to buy used magazines from the 60s~70s and could see the shift happening in retrospect. Quite interesting. A similar story happened with the shift from "condensador" (condenser) to capacitor, which happened in the late 50s - early 60s (also witnessed by me through old used magazines).I'm guite sure there were also mmF, but can't remember which it was, milli milli or micro micro.
Though, I do remember that either pico or nano was missing.
I remember "the great nanofarad debate" in Electronics Australia magazine on whether or not they should change all their circuits to use nF and not just pF and uF.
Spoiler, the nF won.