My first oscilloscope,but which one ???

[Ig_sherwood]

Im thinking to buy an SIGLENT SDS1102X as my 1st scope ,but im not sure ,because im pretty beginner in this kind of stuff ..
I wish a scope which will be not expensive like my right kidney ,but i also wish an good scope for at least 5 years .
What i can choose ?
im an hobbyst and i like to work on digital electronics ,ecc.

[Fungus]

Normally we recommend the Rigol DS1054Z.

It has 4 channels and many features like serial decoders which is very useful for digital electronics. It costs $400.

Below that there's really not much worth having. That's just the way it is.

[billfernandez]

Ditto what Fungus said.

[tautech]

Im thinking to buy an SIGLENT SDS1102X as my 1st scope ,but im not sure ,because im pretty beginner in this kind of stuff ..
I wish a scope which will be not expensive like my right kidney ,but i also wish an good scope for at least 5 years .
What i can choose ?
im an hobbyst and i like to work on digital electronics ,ecc.

They're currently Siglents best seller and a good choice IMO.
All my customers that have selected an 1102X have been well pleased with their decision.

[nctnico]

@lg_sherwoord: What is the budget? Did you read the recent threads about people looking for an oscilloscope? I think most of your questions will be answered there.

[Ig_sherwood]

@lg_sherwoord: What is the budget? Did you read the recent threads about people looking for an oscilloscope? I think most of your questions will be answered there.

400 euros MAX...MAX...MAX

[tautech]

@lg_sherwoord: What is the budget? Did you read the recent threads about people looking for an oscilloscope? I think most of your questions will be answered there.

400 euros MAX...MAX...MAX

Careful study of any datasheets and examination of the current specials being offered need also be taken into consideration.

[Ig_sherwood]

Actually im working on projects like DIY Metcal Power Supply and unisolder 5.2

[rstofer]

There must be a dozen threads in the last month or so on this very topic.  Some get quite heated.  Some drift around the bend where prices escalate beyond all reason for a hobbyist.  In the end, it comes down to a few scopes (three or four) that are worthy entry level devices.

Just do a search on DS1054Z and see what comes up.  Ignore any functionality discussions prior to the firmware release in Sept 2016 (currently unavailable because it doesn't work on very old machines, or so I have read).  The point is, I have a Tek 485 and I bought the DS1054Z for the 4 channels and serial decoding.  It brings a lot more to the dance than just that!  I really like the scope.

That's not to say I wouldn't also like the Siglent or the GW-Instek or Rhodes and Schwartz products or even some of the others.  Were I rich instead of retired, Keysight might be my first choice.  But the DS1054Z is an excellent choice for the money and by the time you get another brand that is similar in spec to the unlocked 1054 (unlocking discussed elsewhere), you're looking at somewhat over $1000.  I'll take the $400 model and keep the change.

There are certainly alternatives out there but, bang for buck, the DS1054Z is pretty hard to beat.  Last week, this time, we were talking about Tequipment.net having 2660 units in stock.  Today there inventory is down to 1879.  By the time the 7 days is up, they will have sold about 1000 DS1054Zs.  That seems like a lot...  Christmas, probably...

http://www.tequipment.net/Rigol/DS1054Z/Digital-Oscilloscopes/?v=7233

[rstofer]

In this thread there is a link to a very long video Dave did re: DS1054Z features:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-1054z-new-user-questions/

[Fungus]

Actually im working on projects like DIY Metcal Power Supply and unisolder 5.2

At 400 Euro the DS1054Z is unbeatable simply because you can easily unlock more features and make it into a 1000 Euro oscilloscope (equivalent price if it were from another manufacturer).

If you're planning to keep it for five years then four channels and 100MHz wins.

[nctnico]

Actually im working on projects like DIY Metcal Power Supply and unisolder 5.2

At 400 Euro the DS1054Z is unbeatable simply because you can easily unlock more features and make it into a 1000 Euro oscilloscope (equivalent price if it were from another manufacturer).

If you're planning to keep it for five years then four channels and 100MHz wins.

5 years is a long time and a hacked DS1054Z isn't comparable with a 1000 euro oscilloscope. At that price level better options get in reach. As usual there is the choice between getting a cheap & limited tool for now and see how long it remains useful or spending more and get something which is up to more demanding tasks and is likely to stay useful for a longer time.

[Fungus]

As usual there is the choice between getting a cheap & limited tool for now and see how long it remains useful or spending more and get something which is up to more demanding tasks and is likely to stay useful for a longer time.

A DS0154Z will be useful for a long time. If the budget is 400 Euros then, that's the option... 

[R005T3r]

Look: if you are a beginner, then go for it.

Tell you this, because when things goes wrong, you fry a 400 Euro item, not a 6.000 one. Making mistakes, especially as a beginner, is easy and, you make things first and ask questions later... It's normal....

[Ig_sherwood]

Look: if you are a beginner, then go for it.

Tell you this, because when things goes wrong, you fry a 400 Euro item, not a 6.000 one. Making mistakes, especially as a beginner, is easy and, you make things first and ask questions later... It's normal....

Sto preparando il mio rene destro e un bulbo oculare ,perchè magari mi prenderò un rohde-schwarz ,oppure un teledyne ..

[rstofer]

Look: if you are a beginner, then go for it.

Tell you this, because when things goes wrong, you fry a 400 Euro item, not a 6.000 one. Making mistakes, especially as a beginner, is easy and, you make things first and ask questions later... It's normal....

Sto preparando il mio rene destro e un bulbo oculare ,perchè magari mi prenderò un rohde-schwarz ,oppure un teledyne ..

Then why did you put a MAX of 400 Euros in Reply #5?

[Ig_sherwood]

Then why did you put a MAX of 400 Euros in Reply #5?

Im just sarcastic ,lool

[Ig_sherwood]

However ,i like to draw my own wifi antennas ,so i suppose that an scope will be not enough for me

[tautech]

However ,i like to draw my own wifi antennas ,so i suppose that an scope will be not enough for me

Quite possibly not.

From another thread looking at TG's as a HF source:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/tracking-generator-as-a-simple-signal-generator/msg1096043/#msg1096043

[Koen]

This might be of interest to you if you have a month to spare. I need a DS1054Z for a month. I'll buy it tomorrow from Batronix, add the "100MHz stuff" when received and will sell it in a month. I'll also sell a MiniVNA-Tiny (for your antennas). 100EUR less from the list price each.

[R005T3r]

Look: if you are a beginner, then go for it.

Tell you this, because when things goes wrong, you fry a 400 Euro item, not a 6.000 one. Making mistakes, especially as a beginner, is easy and, you make things first and ask questions later... It's normal....

Sto preparando il mio rene destro e un bulbo oculare ,perchè magari mi prenderò un rohde-schwarz ,oppure un teledyne ..

Esattamente... Già che ci sei, perchè non vendi anche la casa e la macchina?

[Ig_sherwood]

But in the case if my budget would be from 1500 to 2000 Max !!!
Which of DSO i can buy from hameg ,lecroy or rohde schwarz ?

[nctnico]

But in the case if my budget would be from 1500 to 2000 Max !!!
Which of DSO i can buy from hameg ,lecroy or rohde schwarz ?

There is nothing interesting from any of those manufacturers in that price range. Currently the GW Instek GDS-2204E is the best option with a budget like that.
In the 4000 to 10,000 euro range you can start looking at Keysight and R&S (not Hameg!).

[R005T3r]

But in the case if my budget would be from 1500 to 2000 Max !!!
Which of DSO i can buy from hameg ,lecroy or rohde schwarz ?

Definitely hameg, which is rohde schwarz now...

[Ig_sherwood]

Definitely hameg, which is rohde schwarz now...

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