My first oscilloscope,but which one ???

[Aodhan145]

@lg_sherwoord: What is the budget? Did you read the recent threads about people looking for an oscilloscope? I think most of your questions will be answered there.

400 euros MAX...MAX...MAX

400 euro ds 1054z with free shipping
http://www.batronix.com/shop/oscilloscopes/Rigol-DS1054Z.html

[vpetrog]

excuse me but after searching for a while i believe that the only drawback of the siglent compared to rigol is the 2 channels. I think whithout owning neither of them, that siglent outperforms the rigol in every other category

[Ig_sherwood]

excuse me but after searching for a while i believe that the only drawback of the siglent compared to rigol is the 2 channels. I think whithout owning neither of them, that siglent outperforms the rigol in every other category

which model of siglent ?

[R005T3r]

Definitely hameg, which is rohde schwarz now...

HAMEG® HMO2024 Digital Oscilloscope???

[Karel]

Look: if you are a beginner, then go for it.

Tell you this, because when things goes wrong, you fry a 400 Euro item, not a 6.000 one. Making mistakes, especially as a beginner, is easy and, you make things first and ask questions later... It's normal....

Sto preparando il mio rene destro e un bulbo oculare ,perchè magari mi prenderò un rohde-schwarz ,oppure un teledyne ..

Esattamente... Già che ci sei, perchè non vendi anche la casa e la macchina?

O da in affitto la moglie...

[rstofer]

Definitely hameg, which is rohde schwarz now...

HAMEG® HMO2024 Digital Oscilloscope???

Well, that's a nice scope at 7x the cost of the DS1054Z.  In the beginning, there was a budget.  I guess that's out the window...

[NorthGuy]

Well, that's a nice scope at 7x the cost of the DS1054Z ...

and with a smaller screen 

[Electro Fan]

Definitely hameg, which is rohde schwarz now...

HAMEG® HMO2024 Digital Oscilloscope???

Any chance what is shown at about 0:40 in the video could benefit from probe compensation?

[Mitsch]

A few weeks ago i bought a Rigol DS1054z from conrad or voelkner (can't remember - but it is one company) and I don't regret it. It's a very good device and hey - you'll get a 800€ scope for 400€...
There are no other scopes with those value for money in this range... I would buy it again! 

[Ig_sherwood]

Sto preparando il mio rene destro e un bulbo oculare ,perchè magari mi prenderò un rohde-schwarz ,oppure un teledyne ..

Esattamente... Già che ci sei, perchè non vendi anche la casa e la macchina?

O da in affitto la moglie...

Niente paura ragazzi , io sono un mandrillo !!!
senza moglie rompi palle e marmocchi attorno.
Quindi a questo punto spendere anche 3000 euro per un teledyne WaveSurfer 3000 non sarà un problema.

P.S :
Attualmente l'idea di dare in affitto la moglie, me ne fa venire la voglia di averne una
(ma solo a questo scopo  )

[JPortici]

opinione personale ma in questo budget (400) l'unico oscilloscopio a non essere un cesso e/o non troppo limitato è il picoscope. siglent mi pare comunque meglio di rigol ma alla fine il software degli oscilloscopi in questa fascia rende tutto inutilizzabile in modo produttivo. prendi un rigol, prova a usare decodifica e serial triggering e capisci perché è gratis/non fanno storie per crackarla morale: se vuoi spendere un minimo accettabile per lavorare e non giocare lascia perdere le cinesate tarocchissime

[Ig_sherwood]

opinione personale ma in questo budget l'unico oscilloscopio a non essere un cesso e/o non troppo limitato è il picoscope. siglent mi pare comunque meglio di rigol ma alla fine il software degli oscilloscopi in questa fascia rende tutto inutilizzabile in modo produttivo. prendi un rigol, prova a usare decodifica e serial triggering e capisci perché è gratis/non fanno storie per crackarla

Ma dai ... quindi HAMEG® HMO2024 è un cesso ?
Insomma ,mettiamo caso che il mio budget sia di 1500 e 2000 qualcosa...
cosa potrei scegliermi a questo punto

[JPortici]

avevo letto solo la prima metà del topic D: (editato)
R&S non lo guardo quasi mai, che prezzi... ma nella tua fascia ho tenuto d'occhio abbastanza a lungo pico 5000 e gds-2000e da essere indeciso tra i due

nel mio caso, l'hameg non ha decodifica can. (in progress=SE viene fuori farò da beta tester... nah.)
gds: relativamente economico e pare non abbia tutte le magagne software di quelli sotto di lui, le "options" sono estensioni del firmware gratuite
pico: per come ho impostata la scrivania è perfetto, ho già tutti i dati sotto mano a portata di click, il 5000 è usb 3 e quindi dovrei essere in grado di avere wfm/s molto più alte e trigger rearm molto più veloce rispetto ai 2/3000. decodifica anche can fd/flexray/sent. solo per quello sennò dovrei andare su ws3k+option e mso3000xt+option 

[Simon]

Please can we stop the italian posts. if you can't post in english then please bugger off and join an italian forum, the fact that I can understand italian makes no difference i will still delete your posts and ban you even if what you have to say in italian is not objectionable, although your plans for women are somewhat backward like the country you are from!

[Ig_sherwood]

Please can we stop the italian posts. if you can't post in english then please bugger off and join an italian forum, the fact that I can understand italian makes no difference i will still delete your posts and ban you even if what you have to say in italian is not objectionable, although your plans for women are somewhat backward like the country you are from!

Ok Boss.

[kripton2035]

as other said, the ds1054z is the best bang for buck today, and especially if you unlock it with all options.
you said you're a beginner, then buy this one, get familiar with it, know all it can do, and know all it cannot do
then you will have more power in your brain to decide which better scope in the 2000€ range you will buy.
and also may be the 400€ rigol will be far enough for your needs, and you will forget about the 2000+€ one ?

[Ig_sherwood]

as other said, the ds1054z is the best bang for buck today, and especially if you unlock it with all options.
you said you're a beginner, then buy this one, get familiar with it, know all it can do, and know all it cannot do
then you will have more power in your brain to decide which better scope in the 2000€ range you will buy.
and also may be the 400€ rigol will be far enough for your needs, and you will forget about the 2000+€ one ?

Maybe you're right ,but i have not yet wise in my head if an oscilloscope can replace an rf analizer like an spectrum analizer ...
Im working on an diy 13.56 mhz metcal power supply ,so for this im confused as this things works with rf ......

[Simon]

Generally oscilloscopes don't make good spectrum analysers

[kripton2035]

as other said, the ds1054z is the best bang for buck today, and especially if you unlock it with all options.
you said you're a beginner, then buy this one, get familiar with it, know all it can do, and know all it cannot do
then you will have more power in your brain to decide which better scope in the 2000€ range you will buy.
and also may be the 400€ rigol will be far enough for your needs, and you will forget about the 2000+€ one ?

Maybe you're right ,but i have not yet wise in my head if an oscilloscope can replace an rf analizer like an spectrum analizer ...
Im working on an diy 13.56 mhz metcal power supply ,so for this im confused as this things works with rf ......

+1 with Simon on this one : scopes are not spectrum analyzers.
again: buy the ds1054, see what you cannot see in the rf field, and buy a spectrum analyzer if you really need it after that.

[Ig_sherwood]

+1 with Simon on this one : scopes are not spectrum analyzers.
again: buy the ds1054, see what you cannot see in the rf field, and buy a spectrum analyzer if you really need it after that.

Actually i really need an spectrum analizer for my metcal power supply and for testing my wifi antennas .
So i don't know which one to get at good price.

[JPortici]

Please can we stop the italian posts.

sorry for that

backward like the country you are from!

apologize for that, please.

[Simon]

Please can we stop the italian posts.

sorry for that

backward like the country you are from!

apologize for that, please.

Hey, I've lived there, I'm still scarred although it was the deep south, but the comments on women were typical, perhaps you can appologize to your wives 

[Simon]

+1 with Simon on this one : scopes are not spectrum analyzers.
again: buy the ds1054, see what you cannot see in the rf field, and buy a spectrum analyzer if you really need it after that.

Actually i really need an spectrum analizer for my metcal power supply and for testing my wifi antennas .
So i don't know which one to get at good price.

I have heared you can get decent USB connected ones now but still more than your entry level scope. With the arrival of USB 3.0 the bandwidth of the link to the computer is less of a problem now but you will need a decent computer with plenty of RAM.

[tggzzz]

+1 with Simon on this one : scopes are not spectrum analyzers.
again: buy the ds1054, see what you cannot see in the rf field, and buy a spectrum analyzer if you really need it after that.

Actually i really need an spectrum analizer for my metcal power supply and for testing my wifi antennas .
So i don't know which one to get at good price.

You should learn some of the old radio amateur techniques for testing rigs with minimal test equipment. A good starting point would be a (sine wave) signal generator plus directional couplers plus power meter.

The only way in which a scope might help with an antenna is as a TDR followed by an FFT, but obviously the analogue bandwidth is a little important!

[fonograph]

I would look at GW Instek 1000b it have very good FFT,cost same as Rigol 1054Z.I dont know if it can be hacked,I never owned either of these but I think the GW is solid alternative to Rigol,and when OP needs FFT and is limited in this price range I think its best choice,I cant imagine splitting the already low budget to separate spectrum analyser and scope would be better

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    Dave praised Rohde & Schwartz/Hammeg HMO1202 for its excellent superior FFT functionality,the GW Instek is just as good and is third of the price ( 400e vs 1200e ) Only other scope in this pricerange with similiar powerfull FFT seems to be Picoscope,but the decent one starts at 450,thats 50 more than GW/Rigol and its PC scope