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Re: Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters
« Reply #600 on: November 24, 2017, 04:19:18 AM »
Thank you again blackdog.
So this command is also not supported on the 34461A and I can't use it for releasing the instrument from remote mode.
I'll figure out a trick for that. In the meantime do not use the release instrument after download feature.

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Re: Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters
« Reply #601 on: November 24, 2017, 05:27:34 AM »
I regret to inform you that the "release instrument after download" feature works perfect on my
34461A A.02.14-02.40-02.14-00.49-01-01 (latest firmware)
22.11.2017  22:32            43 008 KEYSIGHT DMM plot.exe
28.08.2014  13:56           296 448 ZedGraph.dll

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Re: Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters
« Reply #602 on: November 24, 2017, 05:44:11 AM »
I regret to inform you that the "release instrument after download" feature works perfect on my
34461A A.02.14-02.40-02.14-00.49-01-01 (latest firmware)
22.11.2017  22:32            43 008 KEYSIGHT DMM plot.exe
28.08.2014  13:56           296 448 ZedGraph.dll

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But still the command fails on blackdog instrument. Maybe the issue is related to a particular firmware version?
Nevertheless I'm attaching a new version with various fixes and a few addon.

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Re: Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters
« Reply #603 on: November 24, 2017, 06:30:02 AM »
The release after download only works from [Download Data] and not [Download Screenshot] but the latest version now have full screenshot on screen.
Telnet on port 5024 or 5025 when testing commands?

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Re: Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters
« Reply #604 on: November 24, 2017, 07:10:09 AM »
Hi,

Nice, PictureViewer shows the hole picture before saving the picture!

Just another picture to show my thanks  ;D


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Re: Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters
« Reply #605 on: November 24, 2017, 07:44:37 AM »
The release after download only works from [Download Data] and not [Download Screenshot] but the latest version now have full screenshot on screen.
Telnet on port 5024 or 5025 when testing commands?

Johan-Fredrik

The release after download function is only on download data since it clears the memory buffer. I know this is not elegant but this is the only way to download both picture and data. Maybe we should think a different approach? I'm open to suggestion :)
Telnet is on port 5024 as for the majority of Keysight products.

Hi,

Nice, PictureViewer shows the hole picture before saving the picture!

Just another picture to show my thanks  ;D
......

Kind regards,
Bram

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Re: Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters
« Reply #606 on: November 24, 2017, 05:05:39 PM »
I'm open to suggestion :)

Reading the memory like in your program is basically a good idea, in particular when
wanting to save data after a measurement run has been completed.

Maybe you would want to log the data into your graph in real time (i.e. full remote control)
by sending the command "Read?" to the 3446x every second and recording its response.
This would give you control over the timebase. My Profilab program does this. But this program
can only communicate via a virtual COM port on the PC since this program does not offer a ready made
tcp communication module.  :(.
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Re: Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters
« Reply #607 on: November 24, 2017, 05:42:52 PM »
I'm open to suggestion :)

Reading the memory like in your program is basically a good idea, in particular when
wanting to save data after a measurement run has been completed.

Maybe you would want to log the data into your graph in real time (i.e. full remote control)
by sending the command "Read?" to the 3446x every second and recording its response.
This would give you control over the timebase. My Profilab program does this. But this program
can only communicate via a virtual COM port on the PC since this program does not offer a ready made
tcp communication module.  :(.

It's a nice suggestion (and a lot of work). I don't know when I will have enough time to do that but if you are patient...
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Re: Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters
« Reply #608 on: January 04, 2018, 04:16:30 PM »
I just sold my 34461A and want to replace it with the 34465A.  Is there a preferred authorized dealer to go through and are there any discounts that anybody is aware of.  Any other buying tips?
 

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Re: Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters
« Reply #609 on: January 04, 2018, 04:55:41 PM »
Bought mine from Newark, but had some issues with the transaction and was rather dissatisfied in the end.  Love the meter, but not in a hurry to buy anything from Newark again.  I could not find a discount when I bought mine, still not seeing anyone offering a discount.  If I was going to buy this now, I would look here;
https://www.alliedelec.com/keysight-technologies-34465a/70518011/
 

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Re: Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters
« Reply #610 on: January 04, 2018, 07:53:39 PM »
May be this is a good deal out of Korea?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Keysight-34465A-Digital-Multimeter-6-Digit-Truevolt-DMM-Opt-GPB/253343138391?hash=item3afc6d8257:g:Bk8AAOSwhqhaTFmF

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34410A/34411A replacement, Truevolt DMM - Opt: GPB

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Re: Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters
« Reply #611 on: January 04, 2018, 10:35:40 PM »
I bought the 61a from TEquipment but it looks like they stopped carrying any Keysight products.  With the Korea unit, they want $120 shipping which brings it up to and a little beyond the US price.  I buy items from Allied so I trust them.  Will continue to look for a bit longer so more good finds would be appreciated.
 

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Re: Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters
« Reply #612 on: January 05, 2018, 01:14:58 PM »
I am going to buy a 34465A at some point. If the move from Windows CE happens and/or the free extra memory promotion comes back I will probably buy right away. I assume that any unit will be upgradeable to a new OS, but it would be nice to not have any worries.

A few days ago I filled out some Keysight form to get a document. I said that I would buy in the next 0-3 months and specified TestEquity as my preferred vendor. This afternoon I got a call from Newark/Element14 asking if I needed a demo or was ready to buy now. I told the saleswoman that I am not ready yet and mentioned that I saw a 5% discount when I put a 34465A in my cart with the Black Friday code. I asked her if I could get that 5% anytime or was it just because of the sale. She would not commit to anything but suggested that she might be able do something when I ask for a quote.

TestEquity gave me 5% off on a Keysight scope and also went out of their way on an Agilent trade-in so I am inclined to buy the DMM from them as well. I expect them to call sometime in the next few days.

Note that all Keysight distributors I have checked collect sales tax in almost all states, so if you live in a US state with sales tax the 5% will help cover that.  In any case, the first thing to do when you are serious is to ask for a quote, 5% might just be the standard discount.
 

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« Reply #613 on: January 06, 2018, 02:17:44 AM »
Just to follow up.  I, too, requested some quotes from the Keysight sellers page.  I originally received boiler plate responses all looking the same, all at list price with no indication of tax and shipping charges.  I sent replies to all of them asking about the missing items.  I didn't wait very long before I just decided to order from Newark.  Well, I should have waited another half-day.  One at a time, I then received vendor-specific quotes showing the meter, shipping, tax and discount line items.  At least three of them, including Transcat, showed about $100 off, down around $1250.  But they all included BenchVue at a $250 or so price.  If I hadn't already purchased, I'd have contacted them to remove BenchVue and find out if the discount still applied.  I jumped the gun.  So it looks like the meter can possibly be had for about $100 off.
 
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Re: Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters
« Reply #614 on: January 06, 2018, 02:25:47 AM »
I just sold my 34461A and want to replace it with the 34465A.  Is there a preferred authorized dealer to go through and are there any discounts that anybody is aware of.  Any other buying tips?

When the 34465a was first announced, I filled in a form on Keysight's web site requesting a quote. It was new enough that few places had stock. I found that Newark had a few and I bought from them at full list price.

A week or so later I got an email from a distributor that I recognized, but unfortunately don't remember their name now. Their price was lower by $100 or so than the price I had already paid at Newark. That email probably was due to Keysight forwarding my quote request. You might try that to see what shows up.

Edit: I see that BVH had the same thing happen. A little patience can save some money.
 

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Re: Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters
« Reply #615 on: January 06, 2018, 02:42:06 AM »
Update 2:  Newark indicated that they provided same day shipping on the meter.  Well, it still hadn't shipped as this morning so I called and cancelled the order.  I replied to the Transcat quote asking if I can buy only the meter at the $1251.90 price.  Will see what happens.
 

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« Reply #616 on: January 06, 2018, 08:40:30 AM »
I didn't get a response from Transcat yet but when I got home, a general email from Transcat was waiting and it provided a coupon code for 10% off.  So I used it and got free shipping to boot.  Tax was charged.  With free shipping, I probably saved about $180.00

I was originally going to send in my 34461A for calibration but figured I'd put the funds into a new meter that would arrive in-calibration.  So all told after selling my 61A, I was able to get a new, higher-end meter, in calibration and warranty for right around $600.00  I feel pretty good about it.
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Re: Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters
« Reply #617 on: January 06, 2018, 11:46:11 AM »
TestEquity gave me 5% off on a Keysight scope and also went out of their way on an Agilent trade-in so I am inclined to buy the DMM from them as well. I expect them to call sometime in the next few days.
I've had good experience with TestEquity, and bought my 34465A from them.  Ask for 10% off MSRP.
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Re: Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters
« Reply #618 on: January 06, 2018, 12:25:05 PM »
TestEquity gave me 5% off on a Keysight scope and also went out of their way on an Agilent trade-in so I am inclined to buy the DMM from them as well. I expect them to call sometime in the next few days.
I've had good experience with TestEquity, and bought my 34465A from them.  Ask for 10% off MSRP.

Great tip on the 10%. I got an email offer from TesEquity today for the 2018 Keysight calendar. I filled out the form indicating that I was interested in buying a 34465A. Maybe that will trigger a call. The sales engineer used to call me occasionally but I have not heard from him for a while. Maybe it is because I moved to a different region.
 

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Re: Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters
« Reply #619 on: January 21, 2018, 12:25:15 AM »
Thank you very much for this little software! It is very helpful, thanks for sharing!  8) :-+ :-+
 

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Re: Keysight's new 34465A (6.5 digit) and 34470A (7.5 digit) bench multimeters
« Reply #620 on: January 21, 2018, 03:47:09 AM »
Thank you EEngo for your compliments.

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