new killer scope in town - a true game changer from R&S - RTB2002 & RTB2004

[mrpackethead]

Keysights looking more and more attractive every day.

Beware the PSU problems.

I'd take your opinion with a grain of salt, as your a siglent dealer.. Running down competition just is a bad bad look

Opinion ?
The evidence is in several threads.

I dont' care if its fact or opinion.  I find it very bad form when a reseller of one brand starts bad mouthing another.  Your 'facts' are coloured by a desire to sell your product.

[mikeselectricstuff]

Keysights looking more and more attractive every day.

Beware the PSU problems.

What PSU problems exactly?

[nctnico]

Keysights looking more and more attractive every day.

Beware the PSU problems.

Well at least I can fix a PSU myself. Bugs in firmware however...

[mrpackethead]

Can get a new psu.  And theres every good chance i can fix one too.    WHat i can't fix is a scope that never materialised, or a scope that was $2000 and then became $7000 just becuase i live in teh wrong part of the planet.

[Fungus]

I seem to remember that people have gotten messed up autocal from DS1000Z, no?

No.

(apart from one guy who had a defective scope)

[skench]

Just a reminder that the $2080 promo package deal on the RTB2004 *is* still going on at Newark, but apparently they can only sell into the USA market.  They have a pricing mixup with their system though.  I exchanged some PMs today with a fellow buying one and Rich from R&S.  The website shows $2080 here

http://www.newark.com/rohde-schwarz/rtb2k-com4/rtb2004-complete-bundle-300-mhz/dp/08AC3745?ost=rtb2004&categoryId=800000047008&searchView=table&iscrfnonsku=false

But when you put it in your cart the number may flip to the $7900 (or $8600 I just learned) list price for the package.  Or it may show the correct price in the cart and $8600 then show up in the email confirm.  The system is grabbing from a database that doesn't have the promo pricing now that the deal is over at the other two US distributors.  Rich says you have to call into Newark's sales department and talk to them to get it priced correctly, until they can get the database thing worked out.

I ordered one from Newark yesterday, and as predicted, the email confirmation came back today with a total of $7920 (no sales tax here).

After a bit of time on the phone with a confused Newark customer service rep, the order was cancelled/replaced and a confirmation came back with the correct price.
He stated that they had these in stock; shipping date is supposed to be tomorrow.

Hi Corax,

Can you confirm that this is the RTB2K-COM4 promo package because the description on the Newark page does not include all the extra options?

[ebastler]

Keysights looking more and more attractive every day.

Beware the PSU problems.

I'd take your opinion with a grain of salt, as your a siglent dealer.. Running down competition just is a bad bad look

Opinion ?
The evidence is in several threads.

In two consecutive posts, you have made claims regarding Keysight quality without providing any references or facts. I agree with Mrpackethead that this is bad style, in particular given the fact that you are a dealer for a competing brand.

Even if you can give a link to some thread, that would be anecdotal evidence at best. But just claiming that some problem exists looks like an obvious attempt to spread FUD, and won't help your reputation.

[tautech]

Keysights looking more and more attractive every day.

Beware the PSU problems.

What PSU problems exactly?

These and others linked in the thread:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hosed-by-my-msox-3024a/

[PA0PBZ]

These and others linked in the thread:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hosed-by-my-msox-3024a/

The 2 you linked in are not PSU problems!

[tautech]

These and others linked in the thread:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hosed-by-my-msox-3024a/

The 2 you linked in are not PSU problems!

True, my oversight, only the first one was related to PSU failure. 
 
As some might seem a little touchy about having some of their other problems pointed out I'll let you find them yourselves in the links provided.

[rsjsouza]

Regarding the percussive effect, please let me know if I am missing something, but I couldn't issue a trigBeat^TM to my DS4014.

https://youtu.be/jPRe2YsNcRo

[TK]

Try hitting harder with a larger object

[MJF]

Please set input impedance from 50 Ohm to 1 MOhm and repeat...

[kcbrown]

As some might seem a little touchy about having some of their other problems pointed out I'll let you find them yourselves in the links provided.

"Go find the evidence supporting my claim yourself" isn't exactly the way to bolster your claims, even when you provide hints as to where the evidence can be found.   They're your claims, so it's on you to support them.  If there are messages which support your claim, you can provide links to them directly.

[Pinkus]

OK. I'll bite..... but I cannot get my hands on one due to the distributor restrictions not selling outside of the US (and I thought this would be over).

Is there anybody here from the US who would be willing to order it for me? Preferrably a company so sales tax would not apply for me. I will keep care of the shipping (DHL pickup) and pay all other costs of course and will add some premium for your help. Any details with payment etc. should be discussed in private, so please PM me. Please only reputable forum members with a history.
Thanks!

[Fgrir]

Is there anybody here from the US who would be willing to order it for me?

I would but all my money is tied up helping a nigerian prince at the moment 

[coppice]

As some might seem a little touchy about having some of their other problems pointed out I'll let you find them yourselves in the links provided.

"Go find the evidence supporting my claim yourself" isn't exactly the way to bolster your claims, even when you provide hints as to where the evidence can be found.   They're your claims, so it's on you to support them.  If there are messages which support your claim, you can provide links to them directly.

Editing out the part of his message which provided links is REALLY sleazy behaviour.

[rsjsouza]

Please set input impedance from 50 Ohm to 1 MOhm and repeat...

I somehow had the impression he was using 50 all around. I will retest later today or tomorrow.

[pascal_sweden]

Why bother ordering a device with such major design flaws? Check the recent video from Dave!

OK. I'll bite..... but I cannot get my hands on one due to the distributor restrictions not selling outside of the US (and I thought this would be over).

Is there anybody here from the US who would be willing to order it for me? Preferrably a company so sales tax would not apply for me. I will keep care of the shipping (DHL pickup) and pay all other costs of course and will add some premium for your help. Any details with payment etc. should be discussed in private, so please PM me. Please only reputable forum members with a history.
Thanks!

[TK]

Please set input impedance from 50 Ohm to 1 MOhm and repeat...

I somehow had the impression he was using 50 all around. I will retest later today or tomorrow.

RTB2000 does not have 50 ohm input option

[JanJansen]

First you set the settings, then you measure, you dont measure while you use the touch screen, or am i wrong ?
You can touch the screen a bit softer also, does the clicking switches also trigger the noise ?

[mikeselectricstuff]

Why bother ordering a device with such major design flaws? Check the recent video from Dave!

Because the US deal is still a fantastic deal, and unless you want to probe very low level signals with a high impedance probe while wacking the scope it's just not a problem in practice.

[pascal_sweden]

Can someone summarize the US deal, in terms of pricing and features? When does it end?

[piranha32]

Can someone summarize the US deal, in terms of pricing and features? When does it end?

Fully loaded RTB2004 for $2080. Seems to be still available at Newark.

[nctnico]

First you set the settings, then you measure, you dont measure while you use the touch screen, or am i wrong ?
You can touch the screen a bit softer also, does the clicking switches also trigger the noise ?

It can be a problem if you look at a signal (zoom in, scroll, enable measurement) with the scope in run mode. You might create a trigger and erase the measurement you made. Basically the sensitivity to tapping forces you to use single trigger mode / switch between run & stop mode in cases where it shouldn't be really necessary.