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Offline artelse

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Now, i own the 70Mhz version without anything...

May I ask where you have bought it?
I'm looking for one as well.

Thanks,

Andreas

http://www.datatec.de/Rohde-Schwarz-RTB2004-Oszilloskop.htm

If you are eligible, you might get an educational discount. This could perhaps shave off about 10%. Worth checking.
 

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Apologies of I missed this but a search doesn't find it. Is there a bandwidth hack for the RTB2004?

None that I am aware of. This is a brand new scope! Most who have it here probably have the full 350MHz bandwidth already - due to the promotional launch deal.

Likely true.
This is not a cheap scope, it's popularity on the forum is mostly related due to the promotional deal. Was a huge marketing win for R&S.
I'm not.
Now, i own the 70Mhz version without anything...
And, I LOVE IT!  :clap:
But for now, i'm completely broke.  :phew:
 ;D

This scope is so good that even the 70 meg is worth it. Enjoy your scope!
 

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This scope is so good that even the 70 meg is worth it. Enjoy your scope!
Yes, that's right. Thank you.  :)
 

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As an maybe interesting info about these relative expensive single options, without wanting to advertise it, there is one option RTB-PK1 that includes 5 other options for a fraction of the sum of its parts: RTB-K1, RTB-K2, RTB-K3, RTB-K15, RTB-K6.
 

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Anyone annoyed about the handle as me?
Whenever i'm trying to carry the scope somewhere I feel that it's so easy to slip out from my hand.
 

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You're kidding, right?
 

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Nope. I'm super serious.
 

Offline Fred27

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I'd be happy to swap it for a DS1074Z with you. The handle on that is awesome.
 
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Anyone annoyed about the handle as me?
Whenever i'm trying to carry the scope somewhere I feel that it's so easy to slip out from my hand.

"You are holding it wrong."    ;)
Steve Jobs
 

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Nope. I'm super serious.
Looking at an image of the scope I have to agree such handles don't offer a really firm grip.
There are small lies, big lies and then there is what is on the screen of your oscilloscope.
 

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I'd be happy to swap it for a DS1074Z with you. The handle on that is awesome.

Perfect!
 

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Anyone annoyed about the handle as me?
Whenever i'm trying to carry the scope somewhere I feel that it's so easy to slip out from my hand.
My suspicions are confirmed.


Not sure I like the rear handle, seems pretty basic for an expensive scope. I'd much rather something to wrap fingers around.  :-//
Looks easy to drop.  :scared:  :-BROKE
Out with the drill and add a rope handle to it.
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I just took a look at the RTB2000 R&S web page and checked the dates on all the documentation.  Nothing updated since the first week of June when the firmware came out:

https://www.rohde-schwarz.com/us/product/rtb2000-productstartpage_63493-266306.html

Looks like R&S has moved on to other projects.  :(
 

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I just took a look at the RTB2000 R&S web page and checked the dates on all the documentation.  Nothing updated since the first week of June when the firmware came out:

https://www.rohde-schwarz.com/us/product/rtb2000-productstartpage_63493-266306.html

Looks like R&S has moved on to other projects.  :(

It's been less than 2 months. How often are you expecting updates?
 

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I just took a look at the RTB2000 R&S web page and checked the dates on all the documentation.  Nothing updated since the first week of June when the firmware came out:

https://www.rohde-schwarz.com/us/product/rtb2000-productstartpage_63493-266306.html

Looks like R&S has moved on to other projects.  :(

It's been less than 2 months. How often are you expecting updates?
For a new product, with a list of known issues,most of which were not fixed with the first update, it somewhat disappointing that we've seen nothing since.
Maybe they're busy doing some major changes to improve the sluggish UI, maybe.
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I'd like to see a survey showing of how many people actual use these scopes professionally. Some of these comments crack me up!

 

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For a new product, with a list of known issues,most of which were not fixed with the first update, it somewhat disappointing that we've seen nothing since.
Maybe they're busy doing some major changes to improve the sluggish UI, maybe.

Couldn't agree more, very disappointing follow up, especially given the lack of communication from R&S since.

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Am I the only one who finds it mildly amusing to read all those luke-warm to grumbling comments, right under the wildly hyperbolic title which the OP chose for this thread?  ::)
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Am I the only one who finds it mildly amusing to read all those luke-warm to grumbling comments, right under the wildly hyperbolic title which the OP chose for this tread?  ::)

You are not alone Sir.

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From my old Navy days:

"A bitching sailor is a happy sailor"
anonymous
 
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Am I the only one who finds it mildly amusing to read all those luke-warm to grumbling comments, right under the wildly hyperbolic title which the OP chose for this tread?  ::)

You are not alone Sir.
It is an excellent scope, just frustrating that it's let down by a few small details, most of which ought to be fixable given the effort.
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Offline ebastler

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It is an excellent scope [...]

No doubt about this. But is it a "killer scope" or a "game changer"?
Still wondering what drove Flintstone to craft that headline..
 

Offline Markus@RohdeScopes

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Hi,

since the RTB is not my project, I can't any promises here but I'll ask the responsible product manager for a feedback/roadmap.

Markus
 
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Am I the only one who finds it mildly amusing to read all those luke-warm to grumbling comments, right under the wildly hyperbolic title which the OP chose for this tread?  ::)

You are not alone Sir.
It is an excellent scope, just frustrating that it's let down by a few small details, most of which ought to be fixable given the effort.

Old Chinese proverb:
"He who seeks perfection finds failure."

This is a superb scope in so many ways that the small quirks don't even register. I shot an I2C problem a couple of weeks ago and the scope made it a breeze.

Come on, how many of you guys work in the entertainment section of Walmart as your day job and got a voltmeter for Christmas?
 
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I have it next to my MSO3104T, but I find I only use it if I need to see more channels, look at independent triggers, or in some decode circumstances (will be more once the fix the uart decode framing bug).
The reason is simply that I find the UI so annoyingly sluggish compared to the Keysight. I'm sure that users who've only used Rigol.Tek etc. Find it OK, but once you've been using the KS for a while it just feels slow, and the intensity grading is rather less refined.
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