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Offline SimonD

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New Rigol DC Load DL3000 Series
« on: March 24, 2017, 11:14:29 PM »
Rigol prepares a new target group instruments. DC Loads !

Take a look :

http://coral-i.co.za/DL3000%20datasheet%20201702-EN%20DSJ01100-1110.pdf

This instruments needs a good software to pair. I hope Rigol this time to make it.
Looks like 2017 is a good year for fresh stuff in testing gears area !    ;)
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Re: New Rigol DC Load D3000 Series
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2017, 11:21:26 PM »
Based on bad experience with their sw support and products like DC power supply I'm not sure if it will be good option.
 

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Re: New Rigol DC Load D3000 Series
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2017, 11:48:06 PM »
Connect it to the DP832 and see which of the two overheats or blows up its FETs first :P.
 

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Re: New Rigol DC Load D3000 Series
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2017, 12:06:32 AM »
Jazzy.
Price?
 

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Re: New Rigol DC Load D3000 Series
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2017, 12:43:44 AM »
Big :-+ for sense terminals where it only makes sense (get it? ;)) - on the front. Like in my Array and unlike the Maynuo/BK Precision/Itech. Too bad about them being shrouded banana terminals, though - could be a PITA at times.
 

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Re: New Rigol DC Load D3000 Series
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2017, 01:27:31 AM »
I also like sense terminals on the front. Also it has Imon and Vmon BNC, so easy scope connection. I guess easier to use standalone, but Maynuo has software that is actually usable.. Rigol so far didn't make single piece of good PC software... They all look like something thrown together over weekend.... We'll see.  I really like my M9812, works well, just Vmon out and sense on the front on Rigol are very nice...
 

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Re: New Rigol DC Load DL3000 Series
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2017, 01:29:28 AM »
Jazzy.
Price?

Until now, i think, only Rigol knows     :D
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Re: New Rigol DC Load DL3000 Series
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2017, 01:38:06 AM »
« Last Edit: April 05, 2017, 05:31:11 AM by SimonD »
 

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Re: New Rigol DC Load D3000 Series
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2017, 01:47:55 AM »
And a photo from Batterfly :

https://twitter.com/BatterFlySrl/status/841943973321179136

Off-topic comment after I saw the Twitter photo you posted: what's with Rigol and their PSU GUIs emulating low-contrast LED displays? As if faking a 7-segment display using high-resolution graphic LCD wasn't silly enough, they even mimic the still visible "off" segments for added non-legibility :palm:

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Or was the LCD "persistence" of the power readout just the effect of the unfortunate timing and/or long exposure?
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Re: New Rigol DC Load D3000 Series
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2017, 01:49:12 PM »
Anybody pick one up?   $499.00 for the 200 watt looks like a nice price.  Maybe Dave could get one and do a tear down and review?
 

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Re: New Rigol DC Load D3000 Series
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2017, 07:42:41 PM »
i read info ....
But it is do not support LED mode ...
It is need for me for testing led power supplys
 

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Re: New Rigol DC Load D3000 Series
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2017, 05:27:23 AM »
tequipment page: http://www.tequipment.net/Rigol/DL3021/Electronic-Loads/
It looks like the DL3021 should be able to be hacked to DL3021A ($499 and $799), the specs are slightly confusing though.
Here are options:
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LAN Interface LAN-DL3
Digital I/O Option DIGITALIO-DL3
Readback Resolution HIRES -DL3
High Frequency Option FREQ-DL3
High Slew Rate Option SLEWRATE-DL3

Disappointing without LED for sure, and they don't show much detail of the battery test: "Battery test function, OCP test, OPP test, factory test function, etc."
As others have pointed out, with rigol you want all these features on the device as software outside of that is not good.
Specs are good however.
 

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Re: New Rigol DC Load DL3000 Series
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2017, 08:36:50 PM »
Features: Single output, 150 V/40 A/15 kHz, total power up to 200 W

Shouldn't this strictly be called input? The DC load is consuming power from the Device Under Test.
It is pulling it in. So that's an input right? =)
 
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Re: New Rigol DC Load DL3000 Series
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2017, 09:03:42 PM »
Yessss, hopefully some affordable electronic loads

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Re: New Rigol DC Load DL3000 Series
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2017, 11:56:00 PM »
The LED testing is not built-in into the GUI.   I'm assuming that we could write some Python LED test software for it.

I'm wondering if the 15khz to 30khz is possible with a hack, or there is a hardware difference between the devices.

I think I'll pull the trigger, since I don't have a DC load test device.
 

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Re: New Rigol DC Load DL3000 Series
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2017, 12:48:15 AM »
I'm curious, what's the deal with the dedicated LED testing mode? What's so specific about LED loads that warrants having some special mode for emulating those on a DC load?
 

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Re: New Rigol DC Load DL3000 Series
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2017, 05:50:55 AM »
I'm curious, what's the deal with the dedicated LED testing mode? What's so specific about LED loads that warrants having some special mode for emulating those on a DC load?

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When using Electronic Loads, the CR and CV mode settings are set for when the LED is under stable operation and therefore, is unable to simulate turn on or PWM brightness control
characteristics. This may cause the LED driver to function improperly or trigger it’s protection circuits. These testing requirements can be achieved when using a LEDs as a load; however,
issues regarding the LED aging as well as different LED drivers may require different types of LEDs or a number of LEDs. This makes it inconvenient for mass production testing.
http://www.chromaate.com/product/63110A__63113A_63115A_LED_Load_Simulator.htm
http://adaptivepower.com/Resources/Documents/APS_App_Note_LED_Driver_Testing.pdf

I think I'll pull the trigger, since I don't have a DC load test device.

Let me know where you purchase from.
 

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Re: New Rigol DC Load DL3000 Series
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2017, 04:14:12 PM »
I found some prices on an Austrian site: http://www.rekirsch.at/Messtechnik/Messtechnik+Lasten/
DL3021: 439€ + VAT
DL3021A: 759€ + VAT
DL3031: 959€ + VAT
DL3031A: 1429€ + VAT

I think the base price is okay. But the step from 200W to 350W is far to high. You can get an Applent AT8612 for 360$ shipped (to Germany) on Aliexpress.
Hopefully the options can be hacked so that these prices don't matter  ;D

There was also the manual: http://www.rekirsch.at/user_html/1282834349/pix/a/media/DL3021/DL3000_UserGuide_EN20170217.pdf
 

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Re: New Rigol DC Load DL3000 Series
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2017, 05:46:59 PM »
The question is if they are ready to ship or is just in pre-order state?
I have nothing see yet in the official Rigol sites about.
Actualy if we can download the user's manual we can understand lot of things about the instrument.
 :P  (Edit.    Mr.OS have put a link. Great!) 
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Re: New Rigol DC Load DL3000 Series
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2017, 05:56:59 PM »
All are in the pre-order state. You have to ask for the shipping time.
But I think the prices could be realistic - under 500$ for the base model and than on. The base model should have its designated price.
Hopefully the other model is not sooo expensive later and it is only a mistake yet.
 

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Re: New Rigol DC Load DL3000 Series
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2017, 06:04:32 PM »
439 backs is a good price! Especially if the base model is hackable. >:D
I agree. The top model is over priced in my opinion. And probably the hardware is the same.
But the companion software is a big player in this area of instruments.
 

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Re: New Rigol DC Load DL3000 Series
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2017, 06:13:42 PM »
I mean the price for the 350W model is to high. 520€ more for 150W? There must be a mistake. When it is around 600 to 700 it would be faire.
I think 320€ for all options (200W model; 470€ for the 350W model - why?) is okay even when it is not hackable. But there must be some error at his shp ... hopefully.
 

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Re: New Rigol DC Load DL3000 Series
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2017, 06:28:23 PM »
Looks good, I don't think the pc software is going to be anything near good judging them from previous experience.  Contact the software work to a Western Company in California. 
 

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Re: New Rigol DC Load DL3000 Series
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2017, 01:16:11 AM »
I mean the price for the 350W model is to high. 520€ more for 150W? There must be a mistake. When it is around 600 to 700 it would be faire.
I think 320€ for all options (200W model; 470€ for the 350W model - why?) is okay even when it is not hackable. But there must be some error at his shp ... hopefully.

I'd pay 500€ for the 200W model, no problems. Especially if its hackable. I really hope Batronix will get them fairly quick with a pricing around the 500€ marl for the 200W model. Of course less is always better, but I'm just trying to be realistic here.

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Re: New Rigol DC Load DL3000 Series
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2017, 01:43:44 AM »
I see a leakage of information here  :-+
Do not expect any delivery before the mid of May  :popcorn:
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