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I now have SDS1202X-E.  :)
Fan noise and 500uV baseline noise ~same as SDS1kX models.
The unit is a little more compact than 1kX and + models.

.png file type for Save/Print is now default.  :clap:

4 mV 500 Hz. Note, this is lowest output on my old SDG1010 so V/div Fine was used to set 620 uV to have all the waveform on the display.



More:
Source SDG1032X----Tek 10:1 attenuator


Eres

FFT
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The TBS2000 series from Tektronix is a plain joke!

take a look on tek is better value than Keisight, at least measuments does not change when you zoon in a scale like keysight does

http://www.newark.com/tektronix-tbs2000-oscilloscope
 
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Do you have pricing yet?  (NZ pricing.)
 

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Do you have pricing yet?  (NZ pricing.)
Yep.
It's based on the US$ 379 mentioned in this thread and Dave's teardown vid but as our $ is only 0.7 of US$.  >:(
But it still works out pretty darn good for a 200 MHz DSO.  :)
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thank you very much tautech for the screenshots.The FFT looks same on both scopes and since 1000x is only 16k bins maximum while x-e is 1 million,it looks like x-e was set to 16k bin instead of its maximum.Could you please compare  both with same settings,3 bit eres,no averaging and 1000hz square wave,with only difference that the new x-e will have the maximum fft bins enabled.
 

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df=476.84Hz. He is running at 500k FFT bins. Note horizontal scale also.
 

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thank you very much tautech for the screenshots.The FFT looks same on both scopes and since 1000x is only 16k bins maximum while x-e is 1 million,it looks like x-e was set to 16k bin instead of its maximum.Could you please compare  both with same settings,3 bit eres,no averaging and 1000hz square wave,with only difference that the new x-e will have the maximum fft bins enabled.
You're welcome.
What I did notice when making that shot while going through the settings to get that classic FFT plot was throughout adjustments there was indeed much more information on the display than with the X models. While the display on X_E is 1" smaller it has the same resolution as X series units.

df=476.84Hz. He is running at 500k FFT bins. Note horizontal scale also.
Thanks for pointing this out.


I'm happy to put up more to request as my time allows.
Easy and fast now that .png file type is default. :-)
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All the info for SDS1202X-E is just been posted on Siglent websites.
China:
http://www.siglent.com/ENs/prodcut-detailxx.aspx?id=1908&tid=1&T=2
USA:
http://siglentamerica.com/prodcut-detailxx.aspx?id=5109&tid=1&T=2
Hamburg:
http://www.siglenteu.com/prodcut-detailxx.aspx?id=2771&tid=1&T=2

You can drill down into each website to find your local suppliers.
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Color temperature mode is interesting.
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Color temperature mode is interesting.
It is. It's an enhancement of intensity grading that reveals the frequency of variations in a waveform somewhat better than just intensity grading.
It's incorporated in the existing models already, models in the 1000X, 2000 and 2000X ranges have had it from day one.
I think my STB3 (Siglent test board) has got some good waveforms to show it's features so I'll stick some up when I've got a free mo.

Edit. (Free mo)
Colour grading of a pulse with a tonne of jitter on the falling edge

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A new thing discovered.
The Power button now only requires a short press to begin the turn off process and then the display has a Wait graphic while the DSO shuts down. Much better than needing to hold the power button down until it shuts down as other models do.  :)

Not new but a shot of All Measure with Ch 1 selected:



Another showing just one measurement selected from the 38 available.
Statistics also on and counting.


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More little things found.
The 200 MHz switchable probes of course have the little ground spring as normal these days and in addition to that the probe tip to BNC adapter is also included in each probe package.

There is a new additional small round button at bottom left of the display marked Menu On/Off.
A description of its function I hope can make sense to readers:

Looking at the screenshot below (used previous post) this button removes the otherwise permanent function menu (soft key menu) from the bottom of the display. Doing so frees space from the working part of the display, the waveform area if you like and so offers somewhere where measurements can reside without hindering or obscuring the working area of the display.




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Some simple I2C Decode:



Here I have the Menu Off activated and the Decode menus are totally hidden but available at the push of a button.
(mentioned in previous post)

IMO it would be nice in this mode for the Decode line/s to drop into the now vacant Menu space and off the active working part of the display.
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Some more Decode fiddling and findings:
UART



So let's Scroll to the end of the decoded list and what do we find ?
Hint
Check the Timebase setting, Trigger position and the timestamp on each bit of data in the list.  ;)
Hehe, we've got packets decoded off screen.





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You are blessed to be a Siglent distributor!
Being able to play with new stuff as it arrives and get first hands-on experience ... slightly jealous now!

Where can I sign up as an official Beta tester to help testing products that are already released? :)
The community could help out in an official way to test out a new beta software version, using an official bug tracking system, such as JIRA, Bugzilla or ClearDDTS.
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Any work on the EXT input a la Keysight 1000 X series?  I could definitely live with 2 analog + 1 digital channel.
 

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You are blessed to be a Siglent distributor!

Being able to play with new stuff as it arrives and get first hands-on experience ... slightly jealous now! :)
Sometimes.

Products are greatly improved on past releases and I am privileged to have these units so quickly from the factory to be able to share my simple findings with you all.
They are the plain and simple things I think I would want to know before buying equipment. Does it work ? How can you do this ? What is different from what we have seen before ?

That I can be in business as a small distributor (NZ only) and follow my passion for equipment and handling brand spanking new models is really how I am blessed. But we sometimes have to take the good with the bad but so far the SDS1202X-E looks all good.  :)

I look forward to rf-loop's detailed reports on these units when he has some time and until he has I will just try to show some more features and functionality.

Requests ?
Any work on the EXT input a la Keysight 1000 X series?  I could definitely live with 2 analog + 1 digital channel.
I'll look into it.

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Took the dive the other day and ordered my 1202X-E from Saelig (will be my first scope).  Looks like they just shipped it and I should have it on Monday!
 

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Any work on the EXT input a la Keysight 1000 X series?  I could definitely live with 2 analog + 1 digital channel.
It is a combination of both HW and SW.  Keysight 1000X has a dedicated EXTERNAL button that activates/deactivates this channel, set probe attenuation, set threshold level.  There is also additional HW components on the EXT input section (it is not a simple EXTERNAL TRIGGER INPUT).
 

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Took the dive the other day and ordered my 1202X-E from Saelig (will be my first scope).  Looks like they just shipped it and I should have it on Monday!

I didn't think the dealers would have stock this early.  Congratulations!

I look forward to reading your impressions.  It's a heck of a price for a 200 MHz scope and it seems like it has a ton of features.
 

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I didn't think the dealers would have stock this early.

Neither did I.  Saw it on their site Monday afternoon and emailed them asking if they had a ship date yet.  They said that they didn't have an exact date, but that they had a shipment in transit and would ship as soon as they got them.  Apparently that was yesterday.
 

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Took the dive the other day and ordered my 1202X-E from Saelig (will be my first scope).  Looks like they just shipped it and I should have it on Monday!

I didn't think the dealers would have stock this early.  Congratulations!

I look forward to reading your impressions.  It's a heck of a price for a 200 MHz scope and it seems like it has a ton of features.
Little dealers like me can get a shipment airfreight from the factory in just a few days and I got a jump on some well before release date was announced.
Orders that are m3's are not cost efficient to get by air so shipping can take a few weeks longer.

I think Jono427 will be pretty happy with it and I hope he doesn't get lost in the features.  :)

I've got one going to a YT reviewer and EEVblog member this weekend, he already has a Siglent so it should be straightforward for him to get to grips with.

Any work on the EXT input a la Keysight 1000 X series?  I could definitely live with 2 analog + 1 digital channel.
It is a combination of both HW and SW.  Keysight 1000X has a dedicated EXTERNAL button that activates/deactivates this channel, set probe attenuation, set threshold level.  There is also additional HW components on the EXT input section (it is not a simple EXTERNAL TRIGGER INPUT).
I think this IS the case however I'll follow it up as I too think it can be a very useful feature.
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Neither did I.  Saw it on their site Monday afternoon and emailed them asking if they had a ship date yet.  They said that they didn't have an exact date, but that they had a shipment in transit and would ship as soon as they got them.  Apparently that was yesterday.

I ordered mine from Saelig Tuesday night and it shipped Wednesday.  I did free shipping, but I'm near Pittsburgh PA so not too far from their offices.  Due to show up tomorrow.  :scared: (I'm surprised that emoticon is labeled as scared, I always thought of it as excited  :-// )

I was wishing I would've ordered when I first saw it pop up on their site, but if they didn't have any until Wednesday, I don't feel bad anymore.

It'll be my first real scope (I have one of those cheap DSO kits that I never used much).

 

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I ordered mine from Saelig Tuesday night and it shipped Wednesday.  I did free shipping, but I'm near Pittsburgh PA so not too far from their offices.  Due to show up tomorrow.  :scared: (I'm surprised that emoticon is labeled as scared, I always thought of it as excited  :-// )

I was wishing I would've ordered when I first saw it pop up on their site, but if they didn't have any until Wednesday, I don't feel bad anymore.

It'll be my first real scope (I have one of those cheap DSO kits that I never used much).
:scared: works for me as excited...dual use emoli.  :)

Enjoy your first proper scope King.
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