Author Topic: Rebranding of multimeters? (Read 14943 times)

Axtman · « **on:** January 12, 2018, 05:10:33 am »

What manufacturer makes what brands of multimeters? For example I believe that CEM makes Extech multimeters. I think Craftsman and Southwire were also made by CEM.

retiredcaps · « **Reply #1 on:** January 12, 2018, 06:28:59 am »

Too many to list. Easier to know who makes or design their own meters.

Obviously Fluke and Keysight. I can't think of anyone else now.

helius · « **Reply #2 on:** January 12, 2018, 07:00:59 am »

APPA is the manufacturer of Ideal, Greenlee, Iso-Tech, Jensen, Westward, Benning, some Tektronix and Megger meters, plus other brands.
Some other OEM manufacturers of other brands are Brymen, Uni-T, and Mastech.
In the past there were even rebrands of European meters: some ITT Metrix units were rebranded by BK Precision!

retiredcaps · « **Reply #3 on:** January 12, 2018, 07:29:30 am »

Just thought of a couple more who make their own meter and don't allow rebranding. Gossen and some Hioki high end meters.

Old Printer · « **Reply #4 on:** January 12, 2018, 02:26:04 pm »

Quote from: helius on January 12, 2018, 07:00:59 am

APPA is the manufacturer of Ideal, Greenlee, Iso-Tech, Jensen, Westward, Benning, some Tektronix and Megger meters, plus other brands.
Some other OEM manufacturers of other brands are Brymen, Uni-T, and Mastech.
In the past there were even rebrands of European meters: some ITT Metrix units were rebranded by BK Precision!

I believe Greenlee is made/rebadged by Brymen.

noidea · « **Reply #5 on:** January 12, 2018, 02:47:14 pm »

Quote from: retiredcaps on January 12, 2018, 07:29:30 am

Just thought of a couple more who make their own meter and don't allow rebranding. Gossen and some Hioki high end meters.

Actually Gossen do/have rebranded their meters as Dranetz, Siemens, Avometer, Unigor, I've even seen a ABB metrawatt on the bay of evil.
Someone had an Megger branded Gossen 28S for sale here a while ago
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/gossen-metrawatt-metrahit-28s-(avometer-oem-clone)/
Gossens Metraclip 61 leakage current clamp is a Megger DCM300E

I think Hioki even rebadged someone elses at one stage as their own.

Fluke's leakage current clamps are actually Yokogawa's

Everyone rebrands the AEMC SL261/Chauvin Arnoux E3N clamps and a lot of their other ones.

PedroDaGr8 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 12, 2018, 04:43:46 pm »

Quote from: Old Printer on January 12, 2018, 02:26:04 pm

Quote from: helius on January 12, 2018, 07:00:59 am
APPA is the manufacturer of Ideal, Greenlee, Iso-Tech, Jensen, Westward, Benning, some Tektronix and Megger meters, plus other brands.
Some other OEM manufacturers of other brands are Brymen, Uni-T, and Mastech.
In the past there were even rebrands of European meters: some ITT Metrix units were rebranded by BK Precision!

I believe Greenlee is made/rebadged by Brymen.

Greenlee used to exclusively rebrand APPA, in the past 5-10 years most of their higher end stuff is now all Brymen. They still have a few APPA models but these are becoming fewer and fewer.

David Hess · « **Reply #7 on:** January 13, 2018, 01:15:23 am »

Quote from: helius on January 12, 2018, 07:00:59 am

APPA is the manufacturer of Ideal, Greenlee, Iso-Tech, Jensen, Westward, Benning, some Tektronix and Megger meters, plus other brands.

The way I understand it, at least in the past, APPA was making multimeters for Tektronix but they were a Tektronix design.

DaJMasta · « **Reply #8 on:** January 13, 2018, 01:26:30 am »

As the above posts indicate, it's especially complicated as often the brand will encompass more than one company's products rebadged to the brand, and sometimes alongside first party produced products. You've almost got to approach it on a product by product basis, as one brand name may have three different OEMs producing its product line and different ones in past product generations.

EEVblog · « **Reply #9 on:** January 13, 2018, 02:07:20 am »

This is perfect stuff for that improved EEVblog Wiki I was talking about.

Zeitkind · « **Reply #10 on:** January 13, 2018, 01:27:09 pm »

Quote from: retiredcaps on January 12, 2018, 06:28:59 am

Obviously Fluke and Keysight. I can't think of anyone else now.

Gossen/Metrawatt and Sanwa for sure. I'd also suggest Beha-Amprobe (Danaher Corporation as Fluke), Hioki, Kyoritsu, Der EE, Tonghui, Yokogawa all do their own. There might be co-development across some brands, esp. from Danaher-brands like Fluke, Tek & Amprobe, but overall those companies should have their own development.

Lightages · « **Reply #11 on:** January 13, 2018, 02:05:59 pm »

Brymen makes their own meters under their own brand. They also design and make the MM series of Extech meters, the AM-250, 270, 140, 160, and PM pocket models for Amprobe, Some of the Brymen models are re-branded by Greenlee and some other lesser known brands. Many Amprobe clamp meters are re-branded Brymens.

Alex P · « **Reply #12 on:** January 13, 2018, 03:13:56 pm »

Quote from: Zeitkind on January 13, 2018, 01:27:09 pm

(Danaher Corporation as Fluke), Hioki, Kyoritsu, Der EE, Tonghui, Yokogawa all do their own. There might be co-development across some brands, esp. from Danaher-brands like Fluke, Tek & Amprobe, but overall those companies should have their own development.

Fluke and Tektonix are part of "Fortive" (spinoff of Danaher mid 2016).

lem_ix · « **Reply #13 on:** January 13, 2018, 03:42:54 pm »

Quote from: Zeitkind on January 13, 2018, 01:27:09 pm

Quote from: retiredcaps on January 12, 2018, 06:28:59 am
Obviously Fluke and Keysight. I can't think of anyone else now.

Gossen/Metrawatt and Sanwa for sure. I'd also suggest Beha-Amprobe (Danaher Corporation as Fluke), Hioki, Kyoritsu, Der EE, Tonghui, Yokogawa all do their own. There might be co-development across some brands, esp. from Danaher-brands like Fluke, Tek & Amprobe, but overall those companies should have their own development.

I'm not so sure about Sanwa, they use Brymen ICs and apparently the same data logging cable. Maybe someone has more info. Amprobe rebrands stuff developed by Uni-t(to a better standard) and Brymen I think. Don't know about the Meterman stuff, did they buy that company or is it their own brand? Kyoritsu has same/similar meters to Yokogawa.

coromonadalix · « **Reply #14 on:** January 13, 2018, 07:24:51 pm »

Gossen Metrawatt have clones of their MetraHit 28s meters under AvoMeter M3045S, Siemens B1105 and Drantech Ultra M230H, ST Gamma 20, Unigor 380 or 390, Rishab RishMulti 20 (but have less functions)

I had the AvoMeter clone, and a Metrahit 28s the input protection is slightly different in parts, it loose the cat IV specs ... but same quality fuses.

Slow in display speed, but incredible features not found on recent meters, ditched my flukes, they lost me with the 83 series 5 models (ac modes by default, erk could not stand it).

Now added an Gossen 29s to my collection.

PA4TIM · « **Reply #15 on:** January 13, 2018, 08:08:22 pm »

The first Agilent handheld DMM's where relabeld ~~Records~~ Escort's (if I remember the name well) until Agilent bought the company

lem_ix · « **Reply #16 on:** January 13, 2018, 08:28:11 pm »

Think it was Escort actually.

Macbeth · « **Reply #17 on:** January 13, 2018, 08:32:42 pm »

Quote from: coromonadalix on January 13, 2018, 07:24:51 pm

I have the AvoMeter clone, and a Metrahit 28s the input protection is slightly different in parts, it loose the cat IV specs ... but same quality fuses.

AvoMeter M3045 - absolutely no google hits for me?

The last digital AVO I remember after some research is the AVO DA116. I had one of these AVO meters back in 1989/90 and it was insane compared to handheld DMMs like a Fluke. However I have since learned it was actually of 1977 vintage and used the same hand wound and calibrated resistors of the AVO 8 which does excuse its similar massive bulk.

Elektrotanya has the manual with schematics

I zapped mine on an old Philips G8 HT supply that went to the diode "tripler" to produce EHT. An AVO 8 could cope with the HT no problem. That sprung cutout could deal with anything

ModemHead · « **Reply #18 on:** January 13, 2018, 08:42:29 pm »

Speaking of Agilent, here's an interesting re-brand for you. It's a Fluke 19 with "Agilent 977A" on the front.

Zeitkind · « **Reply #19 on:** January 13, 2018, 08:47:28 pm »

Quote from: Alex P on January 13, 2018, 03:13:56 pm

Fluke and Tektonix are part of "Fortive" (spinoff of Danaher mid 2016).

Yeah, right. But nothing really changed (for Fluke or Tek), because they span off all tech related parts.. ^^
Fortive has ~80% institutional owners, it's just another big mixed tech company. Doesn't really matter if the owner is called Danaher or Fortive or "Fantasy Name Inc".

coromonadalix · « **Reply #20 on:** January 13, 2018, 08:57:49 pm »

@Macbeth bought from an EEvblog member ...

Macbeth · « **Reply #21 on:** January 13, 2018, 09:44:27 pm »

Quote from: coromonadalix on January 13, 2018, 08:57:49 pm

@Macbeth bought from an EEvblog member ...

Very interesting. Megger own the AVO brand. Perhaps this is some prototype marketing of the old AVO label?

I've tried Google, Bing and duckduckgo and can't find the M3045S for sale or images anywhere other than ebay sale.

There are plenty of "part number aggregation" websites that just waste everyones time with shit results and are internet cancer that google should deal with instead of diversity bollocks.

Zeitkind · « **Reply #22 on:** January 13, 2018, 11:37:36 pm »

Quote from: Macbeth on January 13, 2018, 09:44:27 pm

I've tried Google, Bing and duckduckgo and can't find the M3045S for sale or images anywhere other than

look @ www.maxtechinst.com.hk/product/pdf/megger/M3000.pdf

Macbeth · « **Reply #23 on:** January 14, 2018, 01:30:02 am »

Quote from: Zeitkind on January 13, 2018, 11:37:36 pm

look @ www.maxtechinst.com.hk/product/pdf/megger/M3000.pdf

Thank you Zeitkind, I was particularly amused at this:

AVOwins-DMM Software
• Runs under MS Windows 3.0+, 95 & NT

That seriously dates it for sure (1995!) - Megger tried to use all that was left of AVO (their brand) and it appears they failed.

coromonadalix · « **Reply #24 on:** January 14, 2018, 02:36:17 am »

oh oh, found another Gossen 28s clone, from Dranetz a DranTech ULTRA ...

on google : drantech-ultra-brochure-rev3.pdf

nanofrog · « **Reply #25 on:** January 14, 2018, 05:50:45 am »

Quote from: coromonadalix on January 14, 2018, 02:36:17 am

oh oh, found another Gossen 28s clone, from Dranetz a DranTech ULTRA ...

on google : drantech-ultra-brochure-rev3.pdf

Dranetz is owned by Gossen Metrawatt. So it's the same meter with different labels and boot color (light blue for Dranetz and dark green for Gossen).

FWIW, the bottom image is the current model, while the Dranetz is the previous model.

cs.dk · « **Reply #26 on:** January 14, 2018, 08:45:41 am »

Brymen are also sold under "Elma" brand in scandinavia. They are in a green holster; https://elma.dk/produkter/el-maaleudstyr.aspx?FGroupID=1-130070&SortBy=

EEVblog · « **Reply #27 on:** January 14, 2018, 09:00:16 am »

Quote from: ModemHead on January 13, 2018, 08:42:29 pm

Speaking of Agilent, here's an interesting re-brand for you. It's a Fluke 19 with "Agilent 977A" on the front.

Woah!

From:
http://mrmodemhead.com/blog/gallery/agilent-977a/

helius · « **Reply #28 on:** January 14, 2018, 09:21:40 am »

Back before HP was renamed to Agilent, they sold meters from the same numbering sequence, 973A and 974A. They were made by a HP-Yokogawa partnership in Japan.

Zeitkind · « **Reply #29 on:** January 14, 2018, 01:34:09 pm »

Dranetz sells Gossen multimeters for ages.. prob. because Gossen owns Dranetz? ^^

"Dranetz is owned by Gossen Metrawatt (GMC-I), a world leader in test and measurement instrumentation. Dranetz is the authorized distributor of Gossen Metrawatt products in North, Central and South America."

rsjsouza · « **Reply #30 on:** January 14, 2018, 02:25:46 pm »

Quote from: EEVblog on January 13, 2018, 02:07:20 am

This is perfect stuff for that improved EEVblog Wiki I was talking about.

That or add a column to wytnucls' excellent spreadsheet.

fergch · « **Reply #31 on:** January 18, 2018, 12:56:14 am »

Another re-brand of a Fluke 17/19 is the Maplin Pro2 Multimeter that I wrote about here
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/maplin-pro2-multimeter-rebadged-fluke-1719/msg811189/#msg811189

This looks like the Agilent 977A shown on Mr. ModemHead but in the case of the Maplin Pro2 the re-brand is the Fluke 17...

Cliff Matthews · « **Reply #32 on:** January 18, 2018, 02:37:36 am »

Here in Canada, Canadian Tire has these rebranded 4000-count DMM's currently on-sale for $20 USD (35 CDN). Members say it's a Colluck but this one's new for 2018 and I can't anything remotely like it on the website. Maybe the new shell is exclusive to CTire, or maybe they've switched suppliers? Interesting that it can do freq. all the way up to 10Mhz.. Perhaps I should buy one and send it to Joe so he can add-in some lacking fireworks we used to get on his YT channel.

Markus2801A · « **Reply #33 on:** April 19, 2019, 11:27:39 am »

Hello folks!

I would like to take up this topic again. Started a new Topic covering graphical Multimeters most of them which also offer COLOR Display.
It is obvious that there are many rebranded models so I think it would be helpful to creat an actual list containing OEM Manufacturers and rebranded types of them!
IN future I will update this Post to include new replies and knowledge provided buy other users who reply to this one:

So if I understood right, the following Companies make their own Multimeters, left row, and rebranded types are in the right row:

OEM	Sub-Brand owned	ReBrand`s
Fluke	Tektronix, Beha-Amprobe
Chauvin Arnoux	Metrix
Gossen Metrawatt	Dranetz	Siemens, Avometer, Unigor
Keysight	Agilent
APPA		Ideal, Greenlee, RS Pro (aka Iso-Tech), Jensen, Westward, Benning, some Tektronix and Megger meters, plus other brands.
Brymen		Grennlee, Extech, ELMA
C.E.M.		RS Pro (aka Iso-Tech), PeakTech?
Hioki
Kyoritsu
DER EE
Tonghui
Yokogawa
Sanwa
Mastech
UEI Test instruments

rsjsouza · « **Reply #34 on:** April 19, 2019, 01:17:51 pm »

As someone else said before, there are too many to count, but it would be an interesting list.
One important OEM missing from your list is Mastech - there's also UEI (121GW is from them), Uni-T, Bside (I think) that has also rebrands such as Aneng, Richmeters, etc.
As for brands, Minipa has meters from Brymen, Uni-T and Mastech and maybe CEM. Another brand is Icel, which has CEM and maybe Mastech. Anprobe has both original and rebrands.

Digging through such list is a very involving work, but it may be quite interesting.

joeqsmith · « **Reply #35 on:** April 19, 2019, 02:43:33 pm »

Of the Amprobe branded meters I have looked at, two are made by UNI-T and the other Brymen.

Fluke is a subsidiary of Fortive.
Amprobe is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Danaher Corporation.

Maybe because there is still something to squeeze out of Fluke?

malagas_on_fire · « **Reply #36 on:** April 19, 2019, 03:25:57 pm »

other rebrand off uni-t is tenma

eg for the uni-t 61E

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EID8TI0/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_U_x_IGEUCbYRETTMW

By the looks of their website they are focused in electrical stuff , but not much details

threephase · « **Reply #37 on:** April 19, 2019, 04:01:38 pm »

Extech is a brand of Flir, who are the parent company I believe. Extech are predominantly CEM rebrands, but some of the Flir instruments also look suspiciously like CEM, but do not seem to have exact models.

Di-LOG are another brand that use predominantly CEM instruments.

RS Components have their own RS Pro brand, which was the old Iso-Tech brand, they have a mixture of CEM and Appa Technology instruments.

Megger own the AVO brand, they certainly do some of their own instrument design, but that may be more towards the electrical test side. Some of their meters are close to Appa Technology styling.

Sonel, a Polish Company are another own manufacturer, I cannot place who makes their multi-meters or if they are their own design.
https://www.sonel.pl/en/products/devices/others/multimeters/

Metrel from Slovenia manufacture their own instruments, but are more towards the electrical test sector.
https://www.metrel.si/en/shop/DMM/

All-Sun are another Chinese meter OEM with a large multimeter range.
http://www.all-sun.com/EN/p.aspx?px=1

Kind regards

Markus2801A · « **Reply #38 on:** April 19, 2019, 04:17:08 pm »

Puh there are so many, its really almost impossible to list them and to keep the overview. But together we can make it! :-)

So APPA and C.E.M. seem to be big players in manufacturing Multimeters for a dozens other Companies, which only rebrand them?!

smithnerd · « **Reply #39 on:** April 19, 2019, 04:26:59 pm »

Quote from: threephase on April 19, 2019, 04:01:38 pm

...
Metrel from Slovenia manufacture their own instruments, but are more towards the electrical test sector.
https://www.metrel.si/en/shop/DMM/
...

I think Metrel handhelds are all Brymens.

At the time that Dave's BM235 came out, I did wonder if 'eevblog blue' might be a little too close to 'metrel blue' for comfort.

Markus2801A · « **Reply #40 on:** April 19, 2019, 04:34:59 pm »

Can we also do/create some ranking like "best OEM Manufacturer" for Multimeters? Considering Build Quality, accuracy, durability etc.

You know like the car manufacturers: high Quality but pricey is BMW, VW, etc. and lower Quality would be Renault, Opel etc.

threephase · « **Reply #41 on:** April 19, 2019, 05:00:32 pm »

Quote from: smithnerd on April 19, 2019, 04:26:59 pm

Quote from: threephase on April 19, 2019, 04:01:38 pm
...
Metrel from Slovenia manufacture their own instruments, but are more towards the electrical test sector.
https://www.metrel.si/en/shop/DMM/
...

I think Metrel handhelds are all Brymens.

At the time that Dave's BM235 came out, I did wonder if 'eevblog blue' might be a little too close to 'metrel blue' for comfort.

Good spot, they do indeed look the same, clamp meter offerings from Metrel also look like Brymen. I wonder who makes the insulation testers and power analysers from Metrel, as they look fairly unique?

Kind regards.

Markus2801A · « **Reply #42 on:** April 20, 2019, 06:26:00 pm »

I tried to do some visual comparison, hope you like it :-)

Of course its not complete, to many Types und SubTypes from different RE-Brands etc.

Markus2801A · « **Reply #43 on:** April 22, 2019, 05:30:04 pm »

Can anyone confirm Benning MM12 is the same as APPA 506B?

http://www.appatech.com/en/product-553883/APPA-500-SERIES-MULTIMETERS-APPA-506-506B.html

https://www.benning.de/products-us/testing-measuring-and-safety-equipment/digital-multimeter/benning-mm-12.html

TIA!
:-)

coromonadalix · « **Reply #44 on:** April 18, 2024, 10:56:40 pm »

new one come up today from Germany

Rare to find ... v 1.52 in it

with a brother i got a week ago, expensive hobby i have

Bobson · « **Reply #45 on:** April 19, 2024, 03:02:54 am »

Quote from: David Hess on January 13, 2018, 01:15:23 am

Quote from: helius on January 12, 2018, 07:00:59 am
APPA is the manufacturer of Ideal, Greenlee, Iso-Tech, Jensen, Westward, Benning, some Tektronix and Megger meters, plus other brands.

The way I understand it, at least in the past, APPA was making multimeters for Tektronix but they were a Tektronix design.

At least some Tektronix DMMs were designed and made by Escort (later bought by Agilent).

Bobson · « **Reply #46 on:** April 19, 2024, 03:06:39 am »

Quote from: threephase on April 19, 2019, 04:01:38 pm

Sonel, a Polish Company are another own manufacturer, I cannot place who makes their multi-meters or if they are their own design.

A lot Sonels are rebadged CEM.


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