TDS 1000,2000,3000 BW Hack

[volvo_nut_v70]

Un TDS3024 ira à un TDS3052. Pas besoin de changer de pièces. Logiciel uniquement et un moyen de communiquer avec lui. Cette entrée dans le fil le couvre: Ce fil détaille l'application mdule hack

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/tds-1000-2000-3000-bw-hack/msg1540352/#msg1540352
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/tek-tds3012-and-tds3024-bw-upgradehack/msg2707222/#msg2707222

 Ce fil détaille l'application mdule hack


https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/tektronix-tds3000-oscilloscope-modules-tds3uam/

[KWF]

Hi All,

I bought the TDS1002 recently and the unit came with TDS2MEM module. I've got a few CF cards laying around so nice feature added. TDS1000 is in good condition, screen is bright and crisp. BNC connectors solid, all functions works. I am happy. However the firmware is in 2.06 version and I assume it is a stock one. On the Tek website there is a page with the newer firmware in version 2.12. After registering and got the approval for the download link I've found out that the archive file contained readme file only. Is anyone able to share the installation files of v.2.12/4.12 for TDS1000/2000 please?

Thanks,
Claudius

[rauldm]

Again get 2 TDS3000B, TDS3014B and TDS3034B, I'm working right now with 3034 because nvram battery is dead, my TDS3014B is here. With USB Floppy emulator Flashfloppy firmware for get 1.44 MB and doesn't overwrite my screenshots like original firmware.

[ToHu]

I have trouble finding the 3.39 FW, on the tek website they have only 3.41, after registration and approval that i am still waiting for, but i will need 3.39 as well. If someone have it I will appreciate sharing it.

[volvo_nut_v70]

https://groups.io/g/TekScopes/files/Tek_TDS3000_series

[ToHu]

Thanks, now it works.
So i had quite old FW 2.4, it comes that this FW do not recognize the GPIB/RS232/VGA card, i was thinking is a defective com module since the others are supported but obviously the one with the VGA is not. I apply the hack, it works. Another interesting fact, by mistake i send the command for the 2000 series and brick it, non stop restarts and power off/on did not help, at least until I power it off for about an hour may be, and after that is come up as 3034 /as is born/, the i used the proper command and now is 3054.
I am wondering did non B will works as B, I mean if I set it as 3064B, not that I am expecting any difference, may be one more calibration point at/around 600 Mhz .. .

[volvo_nut_v70]

A non B is a non B, the hack doesn't alter that. Be aware that a 3014 can only become a 3054. A 3014B can become a 3064B. There was never a 3062B so a 3012B can only become a 3052B

[ToHu]

I told so, so will not going to try.

[lern01]

Thank you very much, can you provide detailed operation steps (using the built-in Ethernet port). Thanks again! My email:lern01@outlook.com

[DH7DN]

Hello everybody,

thank you very much for providing this kind of information to the Tektronix TDS Series oscilloscope owners. I did an upgrade of my Tektronix TDS 3034B to a TDS 3064B model.

I used the following GPIB commands:

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PASSWORD PITBULL
MCONFIG TDS3064Brebooted the device and did a Signal Path Compensation (SPC) to get rid off the newly introduced DC offset and some noise.

The bandwidth measurements of each channel were as follows


I was expecting 600 MHz bandwidth, however, only ~505...520 MHz could be achieved. I used a Leo Bodnar pulser (~30 ps rise time).

Shameless self-promotion 
I have written a blog entry to this upgrade procedure. Added some screenshots and additional information there. Please see:
https://physik.co-i60.com/2024/01/tektronix-tds-3034b-bandwidth-upgrade/

[Name00]

Can someone do a format on a TDS301x or TDS305x and dd the image for download?

Trying to upgrade and the scope won't read my disks.  :-(  I managed to do 1 but the other floppies have really weak sectors, and I guess the drive isn't able to pick them up, sadly I can't format it and have the scope read the floppy.   Hoping a DD of the img will resolve at this point.  stuck on the update screen for disk 2.

Thanks!

[sicco]

Firmware update via floppy drive is a one way process: from ~5 3.5" diskettes to scope. Not the other way around.
But you can download (to a PC) the image on the floppies from here https://www.tek.com/en/support/software/firmware/tds3000-and-tds3000b-series-firmware-fv341 and then copy that to 5 disks (assuming you have access to an old PC with 3.5" floppy drive...)

[alm]

You should also be able to replace the floppy drive with a slim Gotek floppy emulator or HxC floppy emulator which allow you to use a USB stick or SD card instead of floppies.

[Name00]

Thanks for all the pointers and suggestions, problem has been resolved.

I had really old firmware, on my TDS, it's upgraded now one of the gotek flash-floppy, it also didn't work until I managed to figure the TDS formatted floppies have slight changes which it looks for duirng the flash upgrade before accepting the files, dos/windows/freedos doesn't seem to care?

the xxd dump from linux shows what needs to be changed or edited from a PC formatted floppy, rest no change.

00000000: e900 0054 454b 5f54 4453 0000 0201 0100  ...TEK_TDS......
00000010: 02e0 0040 0bf0 0900 1200 0200 0000 0000  ...@............
00000020: 0000 0000 0000 29ba 0cd7 1b00 0000 0000  ......).........
00000030: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  ................
00000040: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000  ................

sicco:  You would happen to have your boards and layout available?  I would love to put one together and "play" some more.  :-)

[sicco]

I have one board left over. Send a PM if you'd want it. For 100 EUR that is.

I attach to this post the latest PC software for the BDM interface board as a zip file. This now also works for the TDS3000-c models. But if you use it with -c then be aware that there's a jumper (J856 BDI ENABLE) to be installed for it to always work. See picture - here the jumper is out.

And I attach a KiCAD 7.0.9 archive (tds3000_xpc.zip) for the latest plugin board schematic and pcb. This one also has the FT4232H BDM interface. This version can also accommodate a XPC860 CPU, flash ROMs, RAM, power-on-reset etc. The idea here was to get TDS3000 boards with bad CPU (and bad BGA pads) going again. Some 37 flying leads would be needed to wire what was not wired out over the 100 pin expansion connector. Had that half-working once, but it's a bit over the top... If you leave out on this board the XPC860 BGA IC 4, IC 5, X1, U3, the flash roms IC7, 8, the RAM IC 9, so populate as in the picture attached, then you still have a good 'second life board' that offers BDM access into TDS3000 100 pin expansion port, via USB. And optional DS1744W RTC to replace the DS1742W on the mainboard.