Author Topic: Tektronix MDO4104C-6 Mixed Domain Oscilloscope (MDO4000C) Review & Teardown  (Read 3895 times)

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Offline HugoneusTopic starter

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A full review, teardown and specially designed experiments with the MDO4000C!

You can watch the video here: [1 Hour & 22 Minutes]
youtu.be/po_WLLFr-w4

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Fantastic video as usual, thank you!
 

Offline mySystemEngineer

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Hi Shahriar,
you are the best engineer i know.
by your recommendation i first watched your previous B series model review.
 

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Great video as always. Wondering why it hasn't been posted to Patreon? I'd be more than happy to pay for this one.


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Very interesting, thanks a lot!

Comparing with my DPO5034 (https://goo.gl/photos/dGy6WveTGwSdKgC4A - block diagram https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipO476qh31x8zEEjAioZGXwLE8N_c5yuo6B3rg4k55-MQk-gu35gzyiasX5_aQCPfw/photo/AF1QipNmGJ5eG6rrdl6JyVaks7f8WoFbTegYycS1BEzu?key=OXR1c0VUdEdEOU45aG5QdmdId1hLejNCOWRqS3ln ; There's also a blog post on http://debugmo.de/2013/03/whats-inside-tektronix-dpo5034/ but I haven't updated the links since google photo screwedmigrated me over ), I'm really curious - what is the device next to the MSO header? It's unpopulated on my board, but I wasn't be able to identify it in Shahriar's video either.

Is that part of the AWG or the Multimeter?

On the UI side, I appreciate the push-buttons a lot. The DPO5k is borderline unusable because there are just not enough frontpanel buttons (the DPO/MSO/MDO4k does a much better job though).

FWIW, on the DPO5k, there are 2 ADCs, 4 Demuxes for just 4 channels. Starting with 1GHz bandwidth, they support 10 GS/s by interleaving them. Unfortunately I only have the DPO5034; the analog frontend can be hacked for higher bandwidth with decent success, but only the 1GHz version has the additional HDF144C(?) amplifiers. (Interestingly, the DPO4034 non-B has them, and Bandwidth can be software-hacked, but ultimately they don't support ADC interleaving so you're limited by the 2.5GS/s limitation). (So, if anyone has a spare 1GHz analog frontend from a DPO4104B or DPO5104, I'd be very interested...)

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First thanks for the review - great as always. Unfortunately your support donation system is VAT imposed for us EU users. :( so 20% gets wasted. So maybe find alternative means for support?


If anyone needs the ORIGINAL MDO4054-6 - I have one for sale as I want to upgrade to the C version :) Still love the original - but would like to be able to use the SignalVu app. Pretty much same device - and still almost as cool :) PM me for more info. The MDO is complete and we can talk about if you want any of my option sticks (I have some option sticks and a DPO4BND stick which I'm keeping...:)
 

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Great video as always. Wondering why it hasn't been posted to Patreon? I'd be more than happy to pay for this one.


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Thanks, I have to catch up with those things. I will do it soon.

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That was good I really enjoyed. it. Thanks.
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First thanks for the review - great as always. Unfortunately your support donation system is VAT imposed for us EU users. :( so 20% gets wasted. So maybe find alternative means for support?


If anyone needs the ORIGINAL MDO4054-6 - I have one for sale as I want to upgrade to the C version :) Still love the original - but would like to be able to use the SignalVu app. Pretty much same device - and still almost as cool :) PM me for more info. The MDO is complete and we can talk about if you want any of my option sticks (I have some option sticks and a DPO4BND stick which I'm keeping...:)

Does Tek do a swap? Pay some money to get it upgraded?

Offline kaz911

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First thanks for the review - great as always. Unfortunately your support donation system is VAT imposed for us EU users. :( so 20% gets wasted. So maybe find alternative means for support?


If anyone needs the ORIGINAL MDO4054-6 - I have one for sale as I want to upgrade to the C version :) Still love the original - but would like to be able to use the SignalVu app. Pretty much same device - and still almost as cool :) PM me for more info. The MDO is complete and we can talk about if you want any of my option sticks (I have some option sticks and a DPO4BND stick which I'm keeping...:)


Does Tek do a swap? Pay some money to get it upgraded?

I did get an offer but it makes a LOT more financial sense to sell the MDO4054-6 and buy a slightly used MDO-C series. And being in EU there is the "Not in the USA" tax - so products here gets a SRP boost of 20-40% compared to US (excl. VAT) So I import most my gear from the US.

But the MDO's do not exactly sell like hot cakes which I do not understand - apart from the terrible slow UI at time - the scope and Tek probes in general are really great. Better probes than general Keysight IMHO. I'm slowly when budget allows - buying good Tek Active & Differential probes 2nd hand - and plan to get some adaptors so I can use them on my Keysight as well.

I do love the MDO's protocol decode options and trigger options more than my Keysight 3000T series.  And I must say the " option sticks " are both a blessing and a curse. Easy to misplace :) - but great you can yank the options out and take to another scope. So Keysight 3000T for speed - and MDO' for detail work and mixed domain & protocol decoding. And my MDO CAN do USB decode - where the 3000T can only trigger on USB decoded signals....  - but not show decoded USB protocol - which I find a completely stupid "marketing ploy"
 


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