Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread

[med6753]

But this Hermes outfit sounds like a bunch of losers.

IIRC they screw their employees in every way they can. Not a good starting point.

Their employees are paid their worth I understand. Unfortunately that's not a lot.

How in the hell did the package wind up on the roof? Was the result of a toss over a gate?

[Specmaster]

But this Hermes outfit sounds like a bunch of losers.

IIRC they screw their employees in every way they can. Not a good starting point.

Their employees are paid their worth I understand. Unfortunately that's not a lot.

How in the hell did the package wind up on the roof? Was the result of a toss over a gate?

Was it a drop kick from the kerbside?

[med6753]

And I warn you....I work all night and I can monitor goings on here.....so no funny stuff or I'll slap you silly. 

Cerebus would like to remind you that under the demarcation agreement drawn up with the Guild of Mercenaries, Thugs, Nonnas-in-black and Big Blokes Called John that 'slapping' is an agreed reserved specialism of said union members. Ergo, as a fully paid up member, Cerebus gets first dibs on any contract for slapping. I'm sure you understand, or would you prefer if Cerebus discussed it with you?
 

OK, agreed. But is ass kicking covered under these covenants too or am I given free reign? 

"Big John?"
"Ug."
"We have someone having difficulty reading the agreement. Help him would you."
"Ug!"

"Big John?"
"Ug."
"See that crate of tea over yonder?"
"Ug."
"Go toss it in the harbor (harbour) and then jump in with it."
"Ug."

 

And with that I'm going to bed. It was a long night of working AND playing policeman.   

[bd139]

But this Hermes outfit sounds like a bunch of losers.

IIRC they screw their employees in every way they can. Not a good starting point.

Their employees are paid their worth I understand. Unfortunately that's not a lot.

How in the hell did the package wind up on the roof? Was the result of a toss over a gate?

Was it a drop kick from the kerbside?

Standard issue Hermes punishment for not being in.

[mnementh]

They must use the same software as the USPS. I once had the post office tell me a package would be delivered in the past. It turns out the package had the correct street address, the correct town, and the correct state but WRONG zip code. So it was sent to the post office of that zip code. When they found out they couldn't deliver it rather than taking 2 minutes to look up the correct zip code they instead returned it to sender as undeliverable. Freaking clowns.  But overall I have to say that the USPS does do a decent job....usually.

But this Hermes outfit sounds like a bunch of losers. Glad we don't have them here. Besides....."Hermes" sounds too much like "Herpes" which is something I don't want to catch. 

They need their own Hermes Conrad... the stuff might not get there any faster, but at least it'll be fun to watch.   

https://youtu.be/l463ETVp9Wc

mnem
*smacking me silly-er*

[mnementh]

And I warn you....I work all night and I can monitor goings on here.....so no funny stuff or I'll slap you silly. 

Cerebus would like to remind you that under the demarcation agreement drawn up with the Guild of Mercenaries, Thugs, Nonnas-in-black and Big Blokes Called John that 'slapping' is an agreed reserved specialism of said union members. Ergo, as a fully paid up member, Cerebus gets first dibs on any contract for slapping. I'm sure you understand, or would you prefer if Cerebus discussed it with you?
 

Fair enough, however as the designated slappee, I can confirm with some authority that this particular slapping was performed gratis, free of charge, and without any recompense other than personal satisfaction. Of which there appeared to be quite some considerable amount; enough, indeed, for a second serving. 

I am quite certain there was no contract involved, and that eventually the personal satisfaction should wear off, rendering the point moot.

I hope. 

That said, I like LeCroys. When we evaluated DSOs in the late 80's (give or take a few years, my memory is hazy), they blew away their competition. While others offered 1024 points storage, they had  64 ki points, something very important to us as we wanted to analyze serial bit streams. And very easy to use!
We all loved them!

To paraphrase what someone once said to me. When all the oscilloscope manufacturers started making DSOs, most of them went down the route of making another CRO that happened to have an ADC inside it somewhere, whereas LeCroy went about making a digitizer that happened to have an oscilloscope wrapped around it.

Edited to remove brain fade.

That is both amazing and terrifying at the same time.     The first part describes the "feel" of my 2230 right down to the grubscrews, the second part my SALAE Logic Analyzer in similar manner; the difference being that I bought each of them knowing and wanting what they were all about.

I can imagine how folks who bought LeCroy expecting a 'scope would be pulling their hair out... especially as the UI seems to be designed around the memory structure and how it thinks, rather than even the slightest concession to human beings who have to operate it.   

mnem
https://youtu.be/_ZZOdwlb29A
"I always hear 'Punch me in the face' when you're speaking, but it's usually subtext."

[URI]

But this Hermes outfit sounds like a bunch of losers.

IIRC they screw their employees in every way they can. Not a good starting point.

Their employees are paid their worth I understand. Unfortunately that's not a lot.

Speaking of Hermes like all other parcel services it heavily depends on the individual parcel carrier, I think.

There's a new Hermesbote working where I live for several months now that works correct to my full satisfaction -he delivers parcels here roughly an hour after the parcel is registered for the tour to be delivered in the tracking history.
Before him there was a guy that delivered some time after the parcel had been registered for the tour to be delivered -meaning any time on that first day to next day 22:00.   
He was a nice and polite guy on the one hand but obviously didn't manage to catch up with the scheduled time per delivery Hermes thinks is sufficient on the other hand so he obviously worked till he emptied his van on a regular basis.   

So it comes down to the percentage of win or fail -parcel carriers working for the different companies.
The latter guy now works for GLS..   

[URI]

W I N N E R !   

My DSO-X 3034A was delivered to Keysight today morning.

And yippie -dooo, I just got an email from Keysight: They do a repair and calibration service:


Price: none, warranty!      

_{TEA working back of my brain: Hmmm. Saved so much. Could consider purchasing all options, looking for special offers..}   

[tggzzz]

I can imagine how folks who bought LeCroy expecting a 'scope would be pulling their hair out... especially as the UI seems to be designed around the memory structure and how it thinks, rather than even the slightest concession to human beings who have to operate it.   

My "favourite" example of a scope with a crap UI is the Schlumberger 5602.C.

The UI was clearly designed by a software engineer that had never used a scope, but did think they knew about menuing systems. And, to be charitable, transliterated by somebody with English as a second language - and never shown to an English speaking electronic engineer.

The overall experience can be illustrated by noting the menbrane keys, that the scope doesn't have a screen capable of displaying menus, and then by realising that the "CAL" controls are actually the vertical sensitivity.

This picture is small to avoid offending those with a delicate disposition.

[mnementh]

Speaking of Hermes like all other parcel services it heavily depends on the individual parcel carrier, I think.

There's a new Hermesbote working where I live for several months now that works correct to my full satisfaction -he delivers parcels here roughly an hour after the parcel is registered for the tour to be delivered in the tracking history.
Before him there was a guy that delivered some time after the parcel had been registered for the tour to be delivered -meaning any time on that first day to next day 22:00.   
He was a nice and polite guy on the one hand but obviously didn't manage to catch up with the scheduled time per delivery Hermes thinks is sufficient on the other hand so he obviously worked till he emptied his van on a regular basis.   

So it comes down to the percentage of win or fail -parcel carriers working for the different companies.
The latter guy now works for GLS..   

One thing I try to keep in mind is that a lot of the QOS you get from a carrier is dependent on management.

I see my USPS packages change to "Out for Delivery" between 06:00 and 07:00 every time, and there's gotta be at least a couple hours sort time for the carrier beforehand. Our mail is usually delivered between 16:00 and 17:00, but I've seen my carrier still out on rounds in my neighborhood as late as 19:00, so obviously her route is way too long for a single carrier to manage. 12-16 hour days is simply obscene... and even if I'm wrong about the sort time and someone else does it, that's still 10-12 hour days, EVERY. FREAKING. DAY.

There's a reason we call it "Going Postal". I know I'd run out of GAF by noon and just be numb at least half the day.   


mnem
*Nearly awake*

[bd139]

W I N N E R !   

My DSO-X 3034A was delivered to Keysight today morning.

And yippie -dooo, I just got an email from Keysight: They do a repair and calibration service:


Price: none, warranty!      

_{TEA working back of my brain: Hmmm. Saved so much. Could consider purchasing all options, looking for special offers..}   

Massive win. Well done 

[URI]

I can imagine how folks who bought LeCroy expecting a 'scope would be pulling their hair out... especially as the UI seems to be designed around the memory structure and how it thinks, rather than even the slightest concession to human beings who have to operate it.   

My "favourite" example of a scope with a crap UI is the Schlumberger 5602.C.

The UI was clearly designed by a software engineer that had never used a scope, but did think they knew about menuing systems. And, to be charitable, transliterated by somebody with English as a second language - and never shown to an English speaking electronic engineer.

The overall experience can be illustrated by noting the menbrane keys, that the scope doesn't have a screen capable of displaying menus, and then by realising that the "CAL" controls are actually the vertical sensitivity.

This picture is small to avoid offending those with a delicate disposition.

I knew LeCroy for, err, special UIs on oscilloscopes that one either liked or hated but that Schlumberger is really hard to beat in terms of an unusable UI! 

On the other hand it's clearly corporate design so everyone can identify it as a Schlumberger device on first glance. Doesn't make it any better. 

[mnementh]

W I N N E R !   

My DSO-X 3034A was delivered to Keysight today morning.

And yippie -dooo, I just got an email from Keysight: They do a repair and calibration service:


Price: none, warranty!      

_{TEA working back of my brain: Hmmm. Saved so much. Could consider purchasing all options, looking for special offers..}   

*Passes the award on to URI*

I suggest you use those savings towards a good kit of probes... there's always one (KV probe, pinpoint current probe, etc) you wish you had.   

mnem
"Now how much would you pay?!?"

[URI]

W I N N E R !   

My DSO-X 3034A was delivered to Keysight today morning.

And yippie -dooo, I just got an email from Keysight: They do a repair and calibration service:


Price: none, warranty!      

_{TEA working back of my brain: Hmmm. Saved so much. Could consider purchasing all options, looking for special offers..}   

Massive win. Well done 

Well, I was gambling. First time I won in this dimension.   
In fact, I don't gamble normally because either I loose or the others win.      

[Specmaster]

Quote from: URI on Today at 05:49:21 pm>W I N N E R !   

My DSO-X 3034A was delivered to Keysight today morning.

And yippie -dooo, I just got an email from Keysight: They do a repair and calibration service:


Price: none, warranty!   

_{TEA working back of my brain: Hmmm. Saved so much. Could consider purchasing all options, looking for special offers..}   


Brilliant, thats a massive win on that then, I think the Jammy Git award goes to you now. 

[Specmaster]

I can imagine how folks who bought LeCroy expecting a 'scope would be pulling their hair out... especially as the UI seems to be designed around the memory structure and how it thinks, rather than even the slightest concession to human beings who have to operate it.   

My "favourite" example of a scope with a crap UI is the Schlumberger 5602.C.

The UI was clearly designed by a software engineer that had never used a scope, but did think they knew about menuing systems. And, to be charitable, transliterated by somebody with English as a second language - and never shown to an English speaking electronic engineer.

The overall experience can be illustrated by noting the menbrane keys, that the scope doesn't have a screen capable of displaying menus, and then by realising that the "CAL" controls are actually the vertical sensitivity.

This picture is small to avoid offending those with a delicate disposition.

And everyone else has to get a magnifying glass to see the detail of it 

[mnementh]

That way lies madness.

mnem

[tggzzz]

I can imagine how folks who bought LeCroy expecting a 'scope would be pulling their hair out... especially as the UI seems to be designed around the memory structure and how it thinks, rather than even the slightest concession to human beings who have to operate it.   

My "favourite" example of a scope with a crap UI is the Schlumberger 5602.C.

The UI was clearly designed by a software engineer that had never used a scope, but did think they knew about menuing systems. And, to be charitable, transliterated by somebody with English as a second language - and never shown to an English speaking electronic engineer.

The overall experience can be illustrated by noting the menbrane keys, that the scope doesn't have a screen capable of displaying menus, and then by realising that the "CAL" controls are actually the vertical sensitivity.

This picture is small to avoid offending those with a delicate disposition.

And everyone else has to get a magnifying glass to see the detail of it 

Oh, but the real wonders can't be seen in a photo, they have to be experienced in person. Nothing beats fondling (or poking hard in this case), reading, and the subsequent bafflement followed by sheer annoyance.

But if you really want, a little googling reveals

[bd139]

That thing looks like a ZX81 had sex with a Philips scope.

[Specmaster]

Yuk, its got a freaking membrane keyboard interface, where's the nearest skip?

[tggzzz]

The ZX81/Philips isn't a bad analogy. I also hate everything Sinclair produced, with the exception of the Sinclair Scientific calculator.

And I did warn readers about the membrane keyboard!

If other things were OK, I could tolerate a membrane keyboard, but in this case it is the least of the annoyances.

[bd139]

Yeah we were middle class BBC Micro family. Sinclair was for scum 

[Cerebus]

That thing looks like a ZX81 had sex with a Philips scope.

I knew there was a good reason you could get keyboard condoms for ZX81s!

[tggzzz]

Yeah we were middle class BBC Micro family. Sinclair was for scum 

My dislike for Sinclair started in the late 60s / early 70s, when he was peddling solder-it-yourself audio kits. They were infamous for not working. So were Scentific kits and his later "lacerated floppy" streaming tape drives.

By the time the ZX8x/Beebs had arrived, I'd moved to Sun 1s. The only Acorn thing I purchased (or rather got my company to purchase) was their System 1. With that I managed to do something in 3 weeks that other people thought would take 6 months.

[Mr. Scram]

They must use the same software as the USPS. I once had the post office tell me a package would be delivered in the past. It turns out the package had the correct street address, the correct town, and the correct state but WRONG zip code. So it was sent to the post office of that zip code. When they found out they couldn't deliver it rather than taking 2 minutes to look up the correct zip code they instead returned it to sender as undeliverable. Freaking clowns.  But overall I have to say that the USPS does do a decent job....usually.

But this Hermes outfit sounds like a bunch of losers. Glad we don't have them here. Besides....."Hermes" sounds too much like "Herpes" which is something I don't want to catch. 

That you think "venereal disease" rather than "Greek god" tells me more than I cared to know about you.