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Offline vucaxiTopic starter

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ITAR and non-US thermal cameras
« on: April 24, 2019, 02:21:51 pm »
Hello.
Why do those thermal cameras that are not US brands still have 9hz version? Isn't ITAR only controlling items exported from USA?
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Re: ITAR and non-US thermal cameras
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2019, 02:30:19 pm »
Google Wassenaar.  The US is not the only country that believes that all technology does not belong in all hands.
 

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Re: ITAR and non-US thermal cameras
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2019, 11:17:56 pm »
Hi
I will play around with Hikvision stiff in the future.
Here you find some Module: https://oversea-download.hikvision.com//uploadfile/Leaflet/Brochure/3-Product%20Brochure/Thermal%20Cameras.pdf
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Re: ITAR and non-US thermal cameras
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2019, 12:38:02 pm »
Additionally, once a 30Hz camera gets into a Wassenaar signatory state/area, it cannot leave without a license regardless of who made it.

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Re: ITAR and non-US thermal cameras
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2019, 07:05:32 am »
Interesting, Bill. Does that mean that I can't take my 25Hz hi res non-ITAR thermal camera on holiday from the UK to a non-Wassenaar country such as Israel - even if it was actually manufactured there?
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Re: ITAR and non-US thermal cameras
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2019, 12:30:43 pm »
Interesting, Bill. Does that mean that I can't take my 25Hz hi res non-ITAR thermal camera on holiday from the UK to a non-Wassenaar country such as Israel - even if it was actually manufactured there?

That is my understanding, although whether the destination is a Wassenaar signatory is not relevant.  It is a UK controlled item trying to cross a Wassenaar border (EU is one zone for Wassenaar purposes).


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Re: ITAR and non-US thermal cameras
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2019, 04:59:01 pm »
Actually, according to the domestic law of some WA signatory like Japan, you can't even bring the camera back to its origin country without permission even if the origin country is a WA signatory too. :wtf:
 


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