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Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« on: June 28, 2015, 03:48:15 am »
Recently came across this - surprised nobody found it earlier.

http://www.i3-thermalexpert.com/

"Thermal Expert" by a Korean thermal imaging company "i3" (not to be confused with L3, who also make thermal imaging gear).
Details are vague but this is what we know;

  • Release Q3 this year
  • 384 x 288
  • Android only at launch
  • -20 to 100 degrees Celsius

Images supplied by i3 on their website appear to be very good quality - on par with Therm-app? Curiously the GUI has 2 video buttons.




Obviously the big question is price - I can't find any mention of price except here: http://www.tempsensornews.com/thermal_imaging/prototype-low-cost-smartphone-thermal-imager/

Which states "Numbers like $500 per unit with more than 3 times the 32 K pixels of the ~$250 Seek Thermal and were heard resonating on the Expo floor."

Also here: http://electronics-eetimes.com/images/01-edit-photos-uploads/2015/2015-06-june/2015-06-19-eete-jh-yole2.jpg

Which states "<$500 USD" but also a 2016 release date which is not in line with the "Q3 2015" figure on their webite.

EDIT: They have a video on their youtube channel:

It looks like the framerate isn't the best, and the lens has some sharpness issues at the edges, but still, it will certainly be the best option available at it's price point (assuming the $500 figure is true)
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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2015, 05:36:03 am »
It looks like the framerate isn't the best, and the lens has some sharpness issues at the edges, but still, it will certainly be the best option available at it's price point (assuming the $500 figure is true)

Frame rate looks awesome from that video.

Thanks for sharing.  :-+
 

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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2015, 12:27:34 pm »
Also not to be confused with the FLIR i3 (what's with these name collisions?)

A 100 maximum temperature is rather low.
 

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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2015, 05:19:07 pm »
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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2015, 12:25:20 pm »
I suspect the dual video options are: radiometric and standard (AVI or something)
 

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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2015, 06:32:03 pm »
Also not to be confused with the FLIR i3 (what's with these name collisions?)

A 100 maximum temperature is rather low.

Anyone planning to overclock their FLIR i7? :P

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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2015, 06:34:43 pm »
It looks like the framerate isn't the best[...]

Frame rate looks awesome from that video.

I don't know what to make of the video. It looks like a framerate much higher than 10FPS, but stuttering several times a second. It makes me wonder if it's "simulated output".
 

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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2015, 08:18:48 pm »
I think it's just a case of some image processing algorithm running that's not fully optimised yet. Mabye the NUC algorithm that runs every few seconds?
 

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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2015, 12:59:16 am »
Has a pretty wide FOV with the fisheye lens. Most other thermal imagery I've seen and cameras have narrow FOV tele lenses for focusing on details.
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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2015, 03:44:28 am »
Would be interesting to record some drinking a hot drink and seeing their neck and throat light up.
 

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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2015, 06:54:24 am »
When I saw their latest video I thought "OMG did they really capture a video of a woman giving birth?"
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIMSxad7VfS5kcdw3kjdZDQ

(Spoiler: they didn't ;D)
 

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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2015, 02:07:56 am »
Their website has a few new sample photos, including one of a PCB.



Looks pretty good apart from a very strong "fisheye" effect from the lens.
 

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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2015, 02:29:46 am »
Looking over the web page, they may be looking to sell as OEM at $500.  Might not make it to retail at that price.  Hopefully some of us "manufacturers" can purchase an evaluation copy at the OEM price.
 

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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2015, 12:28:23 am »
I've been in contact with someone at i3 Systems, here are some details;

- Launching 2nd Week of September
- Interchangeable lenses (I assume this means manual focus too)
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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2015, 01:33:19 am »
While watching a YT video on this, YT showed a video on this one for $250, which is closer to my price range, but maybe too low resolution to be of any use in electronics?  There are a lot of sample images but no circuit boards.

Anyone used this one?

http://www.amazon.com/Seek-UW-AAA-Thermal-Imaging-Connector/dp/B00NYWAHHM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1438392290&sr=8-1&keywords=Seek+Thermal+Camera
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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2015, 01:58:13 am »
While watching a YT video on this, YT showed a video on this one for $250, which is closer to my price range, but maybe too low resolution to be of any use in electronics?  There are a lot of sample images but no circuit boards.

Anyone used this one?

http://www.amazon.com/Seek-UW-AAA-Thermal-Imaging-Connector/dp/B00NYWAHHM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1438392290&sr=8-1&keywords=Seek+Thermal+Camera
There's a extremely long thread here about the seek: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/yet-another-cheap-thermal-imager-incoming/

But the consensus is generally;
- High 200x150 resolution, but is noisy and has bad temperature sensitivity when compared to Therm-App / FLIR One
- Lens does not focus that close, however there are macro lenses that can be attached (you can buy these off eBay afaik)
- Seek XR version has manual focus lens that focuses closer than the normal seek, but not as close as Seek w/macro lens
 

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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2015, 10:34:39 am »
Came across some images. Looks like they changed the design.

Also I confirmed with them that the lenses have manual focus & are interchangeable.





 

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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2015, 07:36:04 am »
Video showing this new model:
 

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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2015, 09:57:37 am »
Copied from "New Flir products" thread, because it fits here better :
I will rather wait for i3-ThemalExpert with 384 x 288 resolution and sell my SeekThemal to soften a hit to my wallet.  ;D

btw I contacted i3system and the price (still undecided) will be a fair bit higher than the $500 USD I quoted in the other thread.

That is too bad.
But since the Therm-App (with the same resolution) is 939$, i3-themalexpert could probably go for 700$-800$ and still sell well (if the quality will be on par with Therm-App).
 

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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2015, 10:06:22 am »
Full brochure now available on their website: http://www.i3-thermalexpert.com/download/360/
 

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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2015, 10:12:26 am »
New sample photos too: http://www.i3-thermalexpert.com/blog/archives/category/webzine

I guess we're getting closer to release date...
 

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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2015, 08:48:46 pm »
I've been told international availability in October.
 

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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2015, 08:53:14 pm »
looks like it'll be killer, especially with swappable lenses. Hopefully the phone software is up to par.
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Re: Another smartphone thermal imager from i3
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2015, 08:59:44 am »
Looks like it's available for purchase in Korea now. Some more media;




 


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