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Offline WhiteAndBlue

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FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« on: February 14, 2018, 06:53:59 am »
Hi, I recently bought an used Flir C2(1.1 guessing this is HW version) camera, but in good working condition. Search on the forum but I didn't find anything about Resolution or Menu mod, if it's possible or not. Currently I have fw 2.14 on camera and I see that update to 3.12 is available from Flir.
Some one could help me to backup current files and mod them or mod them after upgrade?
Thanks

LE: can I safely use E4 RNDIS files to backup camera flashfs?
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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2018, 09:03:09 am »
No, it isn't.
The C2 and C3 use the Lepton2 microbolometer core, which is as noisy and as low-resolution as they state on the box.
Nothing to upgrade or hack, as far as I'm aware - though check out the menu, that might be possible.
Do that before updating the firmware though - older versions might be easier to hack.
 

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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2018, 11:06:17 am »
I don't understand the appeal of the C3. It's an obsolete product in my eyes. You can get a CAT S60 for the same price an you get so much more.

An older generation of Flir one phone dogles used 120x160 Lepton that were locked down to 120x90 or something. The flir one apps still wastes a few pixels around the edges on. Alternative apps like ThermalCamera+ use custom rendering processes and give you true pixels(instead of blurry upscaled flir rendering) and even support superresolution in some way. But those work on smartphones and probably not on the standalone C2 and C3.

Fake noise could be something you can access. But only old firmware of flir one used this.

There might be menu limitations like number of spots or zones, MSX blend modes etc that can be modified by software.
 

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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2018, 06:05:42 pm »
OK, so resolution mod is out of discussion. I see that the menu is the same as on E4 and also the firmware files lookalike those on E4.

Main questions are if I can safely play with RNDIS files from E4 and if the camera could be bricked only from this, whitout altering files?

Thanks

LE: backup done using Set_RNDIS_temporary.fif. Powering on camera holding take picture button, it's starting in some RNDIS mode but it's not getting a stable IP address, switching between 192.168.0.3 and 192.168.250.3 and finally to 169......
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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2018, 02:22:32 am »
Install the full driver suite, it should help.
 

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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2018, 07:41:28 am »
Full suite is installed. Now I'm looking for original and modded files from other cameras to understand what to mod and how I should do it.
 

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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2018, 07:43:25 am »
How does FlashFS\system\appcore.d\config.d\ look? Is there a .cfc or .cfg file?
Post it here, as well as the FlashFS\system\appcore.exe and appcore_dll.dll
 

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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2018, 07:59:10 am »
it's .cfg. Currently I have FW 2.14 on camera, in fw312 are the new files from update

LE: if I'll update to 3.12 then the .cfg will be crypted?
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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2018, 08:55:17 am »
I tried to enhance a Flir C3, but after change the Lepton 2 to a Lepton 3 (Flir ONE) the device was in a Boot-Loop.

the only way is to enhance some functionality, like other FLIR Devices.
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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2018, 04:17:04 pm »
@joe-c what firmware? Can you upload your modded files? thanks
 

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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2018, 05:00:29 pm »
Looks like it's the unencrypted firmware version. I wouldn't recommend upgrading.
I've applied the basic hack to your conf.cfg, just replace it with the attached file.
Remember to make a backup before you do.
 

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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2018, 11:11:08 pm »
Hi Spirit532, thanks for your help. I just uploaded the file to camera but I don't see any change. The menu is the same...What I'm doing wrong?
 

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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2018, 11:59:57 pm »
Check the measurement options. You should have a few more, like circles and squares. 3 points.
 

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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2018, 12:57:27 am »
doesn't work.
Do I have to mod files from FlasBFS\system\ui.d ?
toolbar-config_z4.xml
design_ui_z4.xml
facet_z4.rcc (what should I use to open this type of file?)
 

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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2018, 01:09:09 am »
I'm not sure - that is an odd firmware version I've never touched.
Read through the whole E4 thread, you should understand what is going on here.
 

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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2018, 05:24:35 am »
not working without altering toolbar-config_z4.xml, design_ui_z4.xml, facet_z4.rcc...Tried to mod them but not getting correct layout.
@joe-c please upload your files.
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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2018, 06:30:41 pm »
here are they...
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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2018, 02:44:00 am »
thanks joe-c, it's working fine with your facet_z4.rcc
 
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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2018, 06:03:36 pm »
Joe-c how can I set below and above temps? Any chance to use the temp bar as a slider, because that box is very tiny?
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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2018, 08:57:12 am »
Yes, the C2 and C3 allow only one line in Level 1 menu, that's why i reduce the color palettes to only one row.
Additional the Touch is not well implanted. its not possible to move Spots or resize the PIP and you cant change values on the scale.
The C2/C3 show the tiny value change object if you use Isotherm but sadly you don't have possibility to change it with your camera...
I use my "Ex-Tools" to use the functionality like that.

i guess its possible with a little bit time and knowledge about Qt to make some ui hacks.
but... is it worth the time for a expensive Camera with only 80x60 Resolution?
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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2018, 06:22:54 pm »
Yes, the C2 and C3 allow only one line in Level 1 menu, that's why i reduce the color palettes to only one row.
Additional the Touch is not well implanted. its not possible to move Spots or resize the PIP and you cant change values on the scale.
The C2/C3 show the tiny value change object if you use Isotherm but sadly you don't have possibility to change it with your camera...
I use my "Ex-Tools" to use the functionality like that.

i guess its possible with a little bit time and knowledge about Qt to make some ui hacks.
but... is it worth the time for a expensive Camera with only 80x60 Resolution?

It allows two rows even 3 if you want. Spots can be moved and PIP can be resized. The values on scale is my issue now.
I've adapted for C2, BUD's Advanced 3.12 mod for E4.

Downoaded QT and I will try to do a complete facet*.rcc for C2.
For what I need it was enough as it was, but I like to mod stuff :D and for now I don't plan to get other camera.
 

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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2018, 08:35:44 pm »
Hello @all!

Thanks for this post and the advanced 3.12 from Bud. It is working very well on my C2 and all the functions are very helpful for my work with this camera. But i'm missing the function "autorotation". Does anybody know how to reinstall or how to implement this function?

Best regards, Mogli
 

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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2018, 09:48:50 am »
...But i'm missing the function "autorotation". Does anybody know how to reinstall or how to implement this function?
Here the files from a E40bx (MSX Version).
i beleve the important line is in design_ui_e2.xml
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<ui_model_item type="SettingItem" ID="DEVICE_ORIENTATION" label="ID_SETUP_DEVICE_ORIENTATION" caps="caps.config.direction.lcdAccel.enabled" checkBox="true" />
good luck :-+
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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2018, 09:18:23 pm »
...But i'm missing the function "autorotation". Does anybody know how to reinstall or how to implement this function?
Here the files from a E40bx (MSX Version).
i beleve the important line is in design_ui_e2.xml
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<ui_model_item type="SettingItem" ID="DEVICE_ORIENTATION" label="ID_SETUP_DEVICE_ORIENTATION" caps="caps.config.direction.lcdAccel.enabled" checkBox="true" />
good luck :-+

Hi! I tried to insert this line in Bud's advanced design_ui.xml but after copy the file back to the FLIR C2 but nothing happens after hard reset the device. Is there another file missing or what could be the problem? Do I need a modified toolbar-config.xml too?
Regards, Mike
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Re: FLIR C2 here, Resolution and Menu Hack possible?
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2018, 07:03:20 am »
Nobody have an idea for that? Regards
 


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