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Has the hackabiliy of the E4 made you buy one :  

Yes, I was already looking at the competition at a similar price, but the hack swung it to E4
225 (25.8%)
Yes, I'd not considered buying a TIC before, but 320x240 resolution at this price justifies it (as either tool or toy!)
412 (47.3%)
Yes, I was going to buy an E5/6/8 class of unit but will now get the E4
40 (4.6%)
No, but am looking out for a cheap i3 to hack
39 (4.5%)
Not yet, but probably will if now that a closed-box hack becomes is possible
155 (17.8%)

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Author Topic: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown  (Read 2318596 times)

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Offline benifer

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8425 on: March 28, 2018, 02:54:56 am »
I can only hope that they will help me with the file. Thanks for the help.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8426 on: April 02, 2018, 03:53:42 am »
Can I use FLIRInstallNet.exe to run the Z3comb_v2.3.0.fif?
Because eFLIRInstall.exe will not run on windows 7 32 bit.
I'm trying downgrade 2.11.0 to 2.3.0 because the dll’s are different for the 2.11 hack. |O
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8427 on: April 04, 2018, 10:05:50 am »
Read the whole thread searching for my issue no luck except this guys posts above but no outcome yet. Any help would be greatly appreciated, got this E4 with v2.11 and would love some better resolution. thanks in advance.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8428 on: April 04, 2018, 10:12:18 am »
I will dig out FW2.3 if I have it in my archives. I will upload it to a files site tomorrow if I find it, and comment here.

Fraser
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8429 on: April 05, 2018, 01:26:33 am »
I will dig out FW2.3 if I have it in my archives. I will upload it to a files site tomorrow if I find it, and comment here.

Fraser

Thank you my good man.  :phew:
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8430 on: April 05, 2018, 01:47:42 am »
I will dig out FW2.3 if I have it in my archives. I will upload it to a files site tomorrow if I find it, and comment here.

Fraser

Fraser, question for you:
Can I use FLIRInstallNet.exe to run the Z3comb_v2.3.0.fif?
Because eFLIRInstall.exe will not run on windows 7 32 bit.
or is the file you are you are digging up will take care of this issue?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8431 on: April 07, 2018, 12:43:16 am »
Well I guess no luck in finding the FW2.3, thanks for trying.

Anyone know if I can I use FLIRInstallNet.exe to run the Z3comb_v2.3.0.fif?
Because eFLIRInstall.exe will not run on windows 7 32 bit.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8432 on: April 07, 2018, 12:45:33 am »
Sorry we had visitors so no time to search. I will have a look in a minute.

Fraser
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8433 on: April 07, 2018, 01:19:09 am »
The FLIR Firmware 2V3 update pack is now uploaded here:

http://www.filedropper.com/flirexpn639v230updatepack

Just follow the included update instructions. I use the provided .fif installer so cannot advise on using another installer. I guess try it and see  :-//

Fraser
« Last Edit: April 07, 2018, 01:21:34 am by Fraser »
 
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8434 on: April 07, 2018, 11:54:25 pm »
Ahh great! thank you we'll give it a try and update how it goes. :D

 
The FLIR Firmware 2V3 update pack is now uploaded here:

http://www.filedropper.com/flirexpn639v230updatepack

Just follow the included update instructions. I use the provided .fif installer so cannot advise on using another installer. I guess try it and see  :-//

Fraser
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8435 on: April 09, 2018, 01:56:11 pm »
success! for those interested you can use the new version of flir tools to install FW if the old tool throws error codes at you. that solved my issue i was having. ;)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8436 on: April 10, 2018, 09:32:10 pm »
Thanks for the package Fraser!
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8437 on: April 14, 2018, 08:33:57 pm »
Hi all

I am willing to purchase a new Flir E4 if I know for sure I can perform the hack to E8.  I am located in Australia and are considering buying one from this company:

https://reductionrevolution.com.au/pages/flir-e4-e5-e6-e8-thermal-imaging-camera

Can someone confirm that all the E4's can be hacked to E8 or is that some E4's cannot be hacked to E8?

Regards,

alicudi
 

Offline elbartek

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8438 on: April 15, 2018, 08:56:02 pm »
Hi guys,

First of all, great thread... so much reading!

Now, I just started hacking an old flir I7 that won't boot... So I figured the RX/TX on the port and the port configuration and success, I can talk to it... I got some interesting info from doing so.
Now, it seems my os image is corrupted... and hang on... I don't want to send it to FLIR... however I can't seem to find any firmware anywhere... you know, windows embedded CE + flir software in a firmware image kinda thing...

Would anyone be able to help me find that or be able to read the flash chip off his camera and send me that file? Or am I dreaming and this is not possible at all... 256p30bf is the flash chip on the board... 256Mb... If I'm not mistaken, it will contain the OS and the flashFS

Well, if anyone had a play with that... Please let me know, I would be grateful!

Thanks
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8439 on: May 08, 2018, 03:16:36 pm »
In case it is of use to anyone, I have an E5 with 1.0 hardware. I updated the firmware to V2.3 and tried to follow the Fubar instructions, including the initial backup. However, my camera only had a conf.cfg, no conf.cfc, and so the apply.py script would fail. I modified the apply.py script to only apply the changes to common_dll, modified the conf.cfg by hand, and placed these files back, and all worked after restarting. I first changed the resolution, then the noise generator, and then enabled the additional menu options. The additional menu options only partially worked, and required the additional menu FIF file to be run before the icons were available, I suppose. I hope this helps someone. I couldn't find, by searching this thread, anyone who started with a conf.cfg.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8440 on: May 08, 2018, 08:43:21 pm »
If your camera began life with an earlier version of firmware, it is a good idea to revert to that firmware before doing the upgrade and to use the appropriate upgrade hack for that version, and not the later hacks. The reason is that at certain points in the Ex series camera life, different hardware and associated firmware configurations were used. My FW 1.19 camera can be upgraded to the latest firmware versions but the hack is best done on the 1.19 and then upgrade to a later firmware, if desired. My 1.19, if upgraded to 3.12 will not necessarily play nicely with the hacks intended for a camera that left the factory with 3.12. There are significant differences in the firmware that loads even though they have the same version number.

You can find out what firmware your camera had when it left the factory by looking at my camera firmware log in my 'E4 Useful information' thread on this forum. Your serial number can be compared to other owners details there and you will see what firmware was used on your serial number.

The E4 Useful information thread is here....

http://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-the-useful-information-thread/

For early upgrades, your E5 behaves no different to the upgrade than the E4 of the same firmware.

I just checked. If your camera is HW 1.0, it would have been supplied with firmware 1.19 or earlier. It is the easiest firmware to upgrade as no encryption or othe protection was employed. Only CRC01 to be calculated for the configuration files. This is my favourite firmware as it also contains the full service menu that was removed by FLIR in later firmware versions to prevent its use for hacking. In comparison, firmware 2.3 is heavily bastardised by FLIR in an attempt to stop the upgrade.

The bad news is that Firmware 1.19 was not released as a user installable firmware package. Only 1.18 and countermeasured 1.20 onwards. 1.18 is a stable firmware that has the service menu. You can upgrade the camera running 1.18, plus tweak its menus etc to your liking, and then install a later firmware if you want, but you will lose th Service Menu as a result.

For others reading this response.... do not be tempted to revert to a much earlier firmware than your camera arrived with. As stated, different generations of camera hardware run differing firmwares. The earlier firmwares do not always play nicely with later hardware versions of which they have no 'knowledge'. As a safe option, take a look at my camera firmware vs serial number, and hardware version, list and decide which firmwares were used with your version of hardware. Do not install a firmware that predates your hardware unless you like taking risks with your cameras functionality.

Fraser
« Last Edit: May 08, 2018, 10:34:08 pm by Fraser »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8441 on: May 16, 2018, 08:47:48 pm »
I am looking for software in version 1.19.8. Has anyone?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8442 on: May 16, 2018, 11:18:04 pm »
It was never released by FLIR as a download and cannot easily be extracted from a camera running it.

The best you can do is load 1.18 that was made available by FLIR and may be installed in a HW1.0 camera.

There is little difference between 1.18 and 1.19 and both have the full service menu functionality and no countermeasures to configuration modification. Only CRC01 and CRC32 calculators are needed.

Fraser
« Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 11:20:40 pm by Fraser »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #8443 on: May 17, 2018, 05:40:52 pm »
Does anyone have 1.18?
From what I remember, it was probably released version 1.19.
 


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