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Has the hackabiliy of the E4 made you buy one :  

Yes, I was already looking at the competition at a similar price, but the hack swung it to E4
274 (27.9%)
Yes, I'd not considered buying a TIC before, but 320x240 resolution at this price justifies it (as either tool or toy!)
444 (45.3%)
Yes, I was going to buy an E5/6/8 class of unit but will now get the E4
49 (5%)
No, but am looking out for a cheap i3 to hack
50 (5.1%)
Not yet, but probably will if now that a closed-box hack becomes is possible
164 (16.7%)

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Offline dtbp

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Re: Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3750 on: February 17, 2014, 10:05:39 pm »
Use EzCRC from Taucher (it's foolproof ;) )
Check visible resolution while deactivating MSX

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg332090/#msg332090

Mike, can you add this link to the first page to direct people to the EZCRC by taucher? Maybe that will assist people who aren't familiar with DOS commands.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3751 on: February 18, 2014, 12:19:25 am »
It would be an interesting idea to raise some funds to buy Mike a 1.21.0 to try hacking. I'd be open to donating a few pounds to the cause.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3752 on: February 18, 2014, 03:11:37 am »
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It would be an interesting idea to raise some funds to buy Mike a 1.21.0 to try hacking. I'd be open to donating a few pounds to the cause.

Kickstarter or something similar?

Anyway, in for $100. He saved me 50x that much and proved what we all knew - these sensors don't cost $5k, and the whole marketing strategy is based on lie.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3753 on: February 18, 2014, 03:17:34 am »
It would be an interesting idea to raise some funds to buy Mike a 1.21.0 to try hacking. I'd be open to donating a few pounds to the cause.


 In for a hundred
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3754 on: February 18, 2014, 03:38:07 am »
Interesting that we have not seen a single report of a camera loaded with 1.21.0 yet. I would have expected FLIR to have been shipping them by now. Some retailers order when a customer requests a unit and the shipping time in Europe is very short with overnight services used from Estonia to the Retailer.

New owners of E4's, please post your calibration date, firmware version and partial serial no. so that I may update the details on the 'E4 Useful information" page.


Ordered 2/9/2014 from tequipment.net via Amazon
cal date: 1/29/2014
Model: E4 1.1
Partial Serial:  63913xxx
Software 1.19.8
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3755 on: February 18, 2014, 04:19:01 am »
Ordered 2/14/2014 from Amazon
cal date: 1/30/2014
Model: E4 1.1
Partial Serial:  63913xxx
Software 1.19.8
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3756 on: February 18, 2014, 06:21:57 am »
It would be an interesting idea to raise some funds to buy Mike a 1.21.0 to try hacking. I'd be open to donating a few pounds to the cause.
Sorry - too busy with work and a pile of other toys to play with. I'll leave it to someone else to get stuck into it.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3757 on: February 18, 2014, 06:52:46 pm »
Aww, that's a shame. You probably know the E4 better than any of the rest of us.

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3758 on: February 18, 2014, 07:35:02 pm »
Quick question related to a quick test. Does anyone happen to have the following Win CE 6.0 files for the E4:

redir.dll
net.exe
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3759 on: February 18, 2014, 09:06:15 pm »
Quick question related to a quick test. Does anyone happen to have the following Win CE 6.0 files for the E4:

redir.dll
net.exe
I just checked my backup and these files are not on my camera.
Batch Thermal Images Editor (JPG, BMT, SNP, IRI, ISI, IS2, PGM, TIF, IMG, BMP):  https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg350556/#msg350556
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3760 on: February 18, 2014, 11:57:49 pm »
Got mine from Amazon 2/14
Firmware 1.19.8
"Calibration certificate" says 1/23/14

« Last Edit: February 19, 2014, 12:44:15 am by treefiddy »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3761 on: February 19, 2014, 12:03:13 am »
Got mine from Amazon 2/14
Firmware 1.19.8
"Calibration certificate" says 1/23/14

Guys, I'm sorry for the noob question, but I'm trying to find the files to be hacked.  I have seen "e4hack3.zip" referenced, but don't see it anywhere.  Please help.  Sorry again for the noobness.

first page, first post - link to latest hack info
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3762 on: February 19, 2014, 12:43:51 am »
Wow.  Sorry about that.  I read almost the entire thread and glossed right over that file link.


Thank you very much everybody.  Hell of a job.  I wonder if FLIR is pissed at y'all or if they are simply enjoying the flood of E4's they've sold as a result of this thread. lol

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3763 on: February 19, 2014, 12:49:10 am »
Probably a little of both.  I would imagine there's a few that feel as if they're losing profits, but like someone else already said, it's not like I would have gone out and bought an E8 just because I couldn't reconfigure the E4.

Mine just arrived from Amazon today and it had the 1.19.8, I'm really pleased with all the work everyone has done on this.  I hope I can return the favor to the community once I retire from my full time job and become a stay at home dad.  I noticed that the E4s at Amazon are on backorder with a 2-4 week estimated stock date, no doubt that those will include the new firmware.  Looks like I made it just under the wire.

-Tim
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3764 on: February 19, 2014, 12:51:14 am »
I bought the E4 when I did specifically because of the 1st post of this thread.  I'm sure FLIR saw a spike in sales when the new firmware was discovered.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3765 on: February 19, 2014, 12:51:35 am »
Wow.  Sorry about that.  I read almost the entire thread and glossed right over that file link.


Thank you very much everybody.  Hell of a job.  I wonder if FLIR is pissed at y'all or if they are simply enjoying the flood of E4's they've sold as a result of this thread. lol

I also see the reference to the "free offer" for a borescope, but only see an old form.  Is that offer good for ones purchased through Amazon, or is it only for the distributor mentioned?

USA authorized dealers. Go to the flir site and look for promotions to find the offer. ( and I would guess pissed)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3766 on: February 19, 2014, 07:50:55 am »
I also looked in my backup files for the two Mrflibble wanted... can't find them either.  Sorry
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3767 on: February 19, 2014, 09:06:46 am »
Wow, that's beautiful.  Thanks for the info guys!  I'm curious to see if there's a way to unlock the E5 and E6 resolution.  I'd like to test various resolutions for future use. 

I'd bet FLIR comes out WAY ahead with this info out there.  Even with the simplicity of the hack, the vast majority of their normal customers wouldn't be able to navigate the steps.  They have sold a minimum of 200 cameras that they otherwise wouldn't have, including some from me.  The cost of production is the same with any model, so the only cost would be the relative few who were going to buy a higher end model but got an E4.  Maybe they can contribute a new E4 to Mike for the new firmware? ;D



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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3768 on: February 19, 2014, 01:06:26 pm »
Interesting that we have not seen a single report of a camera loaded with 1.21.0 yet. I would have expected FLIR to have been shipping them by now. Some retailers order when a customer requests a unit and the shipping time in Europe is very short with overnight services used from Estonia to the Retailer.

New owners of E4's, please post your calibration date, firmware version and partial serial no. so that I may update the details on the 'E4 Useful information" page.

A pair of fun things talking with resellers:

AFAIK tme.eu received new shipment today, when I asked last week
thay had 1 in stock on their website, but they told me "no stock"
and the new shipment was waited for today with FW 1.21.0,
and on their site today they have 4 in stock.

I asked also conrad.it last week, on 13 or 14 February, they kindly
answered my questions and asked me why I was so interested in
that particular FW version. At the time I asked they had the cameras available,
then on Monday this week they told me that the camera was not available
and the new stock will have "last release" firmware, and that the version
I asked for was not available anymore. And in last few days their site showed
no stock, new stock was waited for 27 or so. Today they have them
in stock again...

Some FW updates on stocked units maybe?

If the new FW version will not be hacked, I'd like to know
what do flir marketing people think about the glitch in monhtly
sales of E4 cameras during these 2 months  ;)

By the way, this thread is dangerous, made a 1k2 euro hole in my pocket...
I'll post data of mine when I will have in my hands.
Fabio Eboli.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3769 on: February 19, 2014, 02:06:25 pm »
Well I've done it. Almost 2 months later, I have finally read through all 254 pages of this thread during my spare time on my lunch break and I must say - well done guys! It was great reading through it all and following the process of the modifications coming together - and a shame to read about the latest firmware sending people back to square one!

I work for a large thermography company in the UK, so I'll try and provide any input where I can!

@Dave, great to see some alternative software out there, but unfortunately it crashes when I try editing any thermograms from our Flir SC640.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3770 on: February 19, 2014, 02:16:05 pm »
Wow, that's beautiful.  Thanks for the info guys!  I'm curious to see if there's a way to unlock the E5 and E6 resolution.  I'd like to test various resolutions for future use. 

Just use the E4 solution, same HW base.

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3771 on: February 19, 2014, 02:18:31 pm »
@Dave, great to see some alternative software out there, but unfortunately it crashes when I try editing any thermograms from our Flir SC640.

Yes, I did it with my E4, so only tested on E4 images. You can send me your image and I will try to get it work.
Batch Thermal Images Editor (JPG, BMT, SNP, IRI, ISI, IS2, PGM, TIF, IMG, BMP):  https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-e4-thermal-imaging-camera-teardown/msg350556/#msg350556
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3772 on: February 19, 2014, 02:19:26 pm »
I asked also conrad.it last week, on 13 or 14 February, they kindly
answered my questions and asked me why I was so interested in
that particular FW version. At the time I asked they had the cameras available,
then on Monday this week they told me that the camera was not available
and the new stock will have "last release" firmware, and that the version
I asked for was not available anymore. And in last few days their site showed
no stock, new stock was waited for 27 or so. Today they have them
in stock again...

Some FW updates on stocked units maybe?
One UK dealer has confirmed that Fluir have been pulling stock back from dealers for "Upgrade"
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3773 on: February 19, 2014, 02:20:04 pm »
Just a quick note on 1.21.0:
I've received a private inquiry from somebody who's unit has 1.21.0 - so Mike: the've pulled the trigger.

PS/EDIT: Dave's forum print/search functions do crash on this thread (again) ... this thread has broken all limits :)
« Last Edit: February 19, 2014, 02:24:36 pm by Taucher »
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #3774 on: February 19, 2014, 03:41:59 pm »
Spoken to a couple of the bigger UK Flir dealers, all awaiting stock at the moment  :--
 


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