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Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« on: May 27, 2016, 07:36:13 am »
Update 10.12.17
Actual Version is 1.8.0.0
Download here:
http://joe-c.de/pages/projekte/thermovision.php
-----------------First Post----------------------------------
Hello,
I will release the first version of my "ThermoVision_JoeC".
This project is based on my Thermoviewer Project:
http://joe-c.de/pages/posts/programm_thermalviewer_120.php#ver008
The Target of this Software is providing a alternative to other Analysis Software from the Manufactures of Thermal Cameras.
Since the implementation of the "Seek Thermal" Camera, it's more like a vision Software and to void any trademark problems it contains my signature as Name.
There changed something since the Thermoviewer... the Temperature Unit can be set (°C,°K,°F), the Language can be changed (actual only German and English. English is preset for this release).
And a panel system was implant, so each Block can be placed individual.
There was some *.bat files for the possible command line parameters, to startup with Seek or reset panels.

Seek Thermal Camera
The Core was found here:
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/yet-another-cheap-thermal-imager-incoming/msg916375/#msg916375
The Use is simple... click on the right side Tab: Devices->Device: Seek Thermal
And hit the button "Connect". If the driver is installed and the Seek to USB connected, the button should change to green and the Camera should stream the live image.
There were some Settings for the Camera:
The most of them should be known...Autorange, AVR (Average), Median, Reference (Frame)...
  • the Level and Span was values to calculate the Temperature. This was the coarse values for my camera(s) and for C°.
    Maybe it’s a good idea to view at 2 Objects, one <10°C the other >80°C. If you know the exact temperature of the objects, you can change the values Level and Span until you reach the same Min and Max values as the objects have
  • the "0° Landscape" was a combobox for the rotation of the Seek.
     Possible settings are:0° Landscape, 180° Landscape, 90° Portrait, 270° Portrait
  • if the "visual image from WebcamA" was checked and a Webcam was enabled (Device: WebcamA), every image from the Webcam replace the internal Visual image. If you has your seek together with a normal Webcam, you can store Thermal and visual image in one file (like FLIR images).
  • if "quick info at shutter" was checked, you get a small note label in the upper left corner.
  • If also "quick info before shutter" was checked, you get a small note label in the upper left corner, 1 second before the shutter closes (the Program notes internal the time between the Shutters and calculate the time to the next).

At last there is a nice Function to see the Quality of your Camera sensor.
The button "Show DeathPixelMap" generates a "Seek_DeathPixelMap.png" Image.
There is the calculated DeathPixelMap displayed and some extra info:
White Pixel = Usable (good)
Black Pixel = Defect
Red Pixel = unusable blank Pixel
Total: xx (number of Total Pixels...156*206)
OK: xx (number of usable Pixels)
Bad: xx (number of not usable Pixels)
NoPat: xx (number of Bad Pixels, which not are pattern Pixel)

The NoPat Value shows the quality of your Seek Camera. A perfect seek has here 0.
I attach my yet collected maps... there was Values from 124 to 4975.

FLIR Ex (Exx, ix, C2, maybe more...)
As the Thermoviewer before, this Program could grab a full thermal Frame, if the Camera was connected as RNDIS (better RNDIS_UVC) over USB.
Than there was 2 Funtions:
Init Grab: setup some start values.
Grab IR: read the Min and Max Values (from Scale or better, from mBox), store the Sequence, download and read it
if everything work like expected, it should be like:
  • Set your camera Resolution at the "Settings"
  • connect your camera with "Telnet"
  • chose mBox if your camera can use this measurement (E4+ can)
  • hit "init Grab" and wait a little bit... if mBox is selected you have to see a fullscreen mBox on your camera display
  • hit "Grab IR" to read a frame, after 4 Seconds (for E4+), the frame should be draw to the screen
  • for each next frame just hit "Grab IR"
For a better view of your possible capture, you can enable the WebcamB (needs RNDIS_UVC mode, see Attachments).
Previously I tried this with a C2 (at 80x60) and without Webcam with a i3 (at 120x120). But I haven’t this cameras anymore, so I can confirm, that they still work. But they should... maybe some other FLIR Cameras too. But not the old Cameras like E45 and E25.
If you can connect with "Telnet" and can trigger the Shutter with the "Terminal" and the Command "nuc" (just hit <ENTER> in the box), then a frame Grab should work too.

FLIR Ex Images
The Program can read Images stored by the FLIR Ex Cameras, but not without extra tools yet.
You need to copy 2 executables in the "bin" folder:
bin/convert.exe  from here: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/convert.php
bin/exiftool.exe from here: http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/

After that, switch the file drop Target:
Menu: File -> Combobox: "Drop -> FLIR *.jpg"
Then you just can drag&drop your images.

Improvements
It was a massive restructuring since the Thermoviewer, I hope I found all issues.  :-/O

The Video function is inactive at the moment, I work on that.
Also I plan implanting a better Histogram, maybe as own panel window.
And if I read right, maybe the FLIR ONE could implant later too:
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-one-android-app-with-full-lepton-sensor-resolution/msg928630/#msg928630

If you have suggestions or found errors, let me know.
For screenshots just double click on "Screen" on the bottom left corner.
And maybe... sorry for bad English  8)

Some Information for those Users, who don’t know the Thermoviewer before:
-With middle Mouseclick on Image you place a Measurement Spot
-If the mouse pointer over a measurement object (Spot,Line,Box) it goes from gray to blue (focused)
-double click a m-object do select it in the "MeasGrid", there additional settings
-you can move the m-objects with holding mouse down and drag (color goes from blue to green)
-for m-Line you move with left mouse button too, but with the middle you only move the endpoint
-the m-Box can change the size wile drag the bottom or right corner (mouse cursor arrows change, and the color is yellow)
-in the menubar (right to "New:") you can enable the new m-object placement with the mouse (cancel with <ESCAPE>)
-there also some places with a mouse context menu, so don’t forget try the right mouse
-you can change the Level while drag with left mouse down in the Scale, right to the Thermal image
-you can change the Span with the mouse weel inside the scale
That ought to do...
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2016, 07:40:17 am »
Some Images from my X-Ray device, maybe interesting for somebody.

I don't remember any difference between the iOS and the Android version. They both connected over USB  :-+
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2016, 06:45:18 pm »
You have been busy. :-+

Those x-rays are really useful for me to position ntc resistor right on the middle of the back of the sensor.
 
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2016, 08:36:06 pm »
Hi Joe_c

Nice work 👍

What X-Ray machine are you using please ?

Best Wishes

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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2016, 05:18:36 am »
Hi  Joe-c,

this are great news  :-+ ( or with unicode 👍 )

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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2016, 03:50:54 pm »
Thanks  ;)

What X-Ray machine are you using please ?

this is a mobile C-arm Fluoroscope device, maybe for a mobile look of a fracture as a doctor.

i build a webcam in front of the Screen. with my own software and the image processing i generate this pictures.
the device can run up to 1 minute (internal self deactivation), but its time enough, to place the object and enable the image grab (the camera has 1280x1024 at 5fps... the images are a average of 40 images...) it takes around 4 seconds.

here is the project page:
http://joe-c.de/pages/posts/projekt_x-ray_7.php
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2016, 01:31:55 pm »
Hello,
I finished the next version. It's the first version i also put on my Website, you can download here:
http://joe-c.de/pages/posts/programm_thermovision_joe-c_184.php#Download
(change the Language to English with Menu:Options->klick on the gray field at bottom and select "lang_EN.txt")

The biggest change is the activation of the "Thermal Sequence" function.
with that you can store multiple Frames (same Size) in a single *.bmp file.
I choose bmp because it could be easy preview in explorer and has a fixed size head (image size is 162x166, no matter the size of the thermal frame inside)
Additional it can read the *.SEQ files from Flir cameras (i tested from FLIR C2,FLIR i3 and FLIR E4). The min and max values are not extracted yet (I don't know enough for that now), this values are fixed from 2 numeric boxes in the function panel, the Size of the Sequence have to be chosen first. But you can see the Frames much faster than FLIR-Tools. For older Sequences (like FLIR i3 with 120x120 Frames) you can deactivate the option "Frameoffset" at Tab:*.SEQ for better calculation of Frame count and navigation.

Additional some bug removements, like a issue with the Palette:Sinus Isotherm.
Remove a bug at load/save labels from Meas lines.
And the Implementation of the 2 Webcams is better. you can easy store images, open the driver window, list the available resolutions...
and some other tiny things.

I don't note any posts of Seek Thermal Death pixel maps... come on guys, show the quality of your sensors. it would be interesting to see the differences to other. My 8 Maps I get from some Cams are in the First post.

the next step is the implementation of the http://www.diy-thermocam.net/ to read in the images and stream a live image.
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2016, 03:09:23 pm »
Hi joe-c,

My sensors Death pixel map.
Bad pixels 3162 / 9.8% Oh!

I don't note any posts of Seek Thermal Death pixel maps... come on guys, show the quality of your sensors. it would be interesting to see the differences to other. My 8 Maps I get from some Cams are in the First post.
joe-c

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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2016, 05:49:38 pm »
Hi joe-c,

I use your application named "ThemoVision" and the temperature is so weird.(a person sits here ,uses computer and the  hottest temperature is 13.5C)
Is it possible to correct it?

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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2016, 01:01:42 am »
I use your application named "ThemoVision" and the temperature is so weird.(a person sits here ,uses computer and the  hottest temperature is 13.5C)
Is it possible to correct it?
Sadly Seek don't provide infos about the Calculation, i usa a quick and dirty setting, until i know the right way...
  • the Level and Span was values to calculate the Temperature. This was the coarse values for my camera(s) and for C°.
    Maybe it’s a good idea to view at 2 Objects, one <10°C the other >80°C. If you know the exact temperature of the objects, you can change the values Level and Span until you reach the same Min and Max values as the objects have
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2016, 01:08:47 am »
I admire your ability.

I want remote control my hacked E4 by USB connecting.

This program is exactly what want.


But, I'm newbie. So I have some problems to use this great software. May I ask you some elementary questions?

1. How can I connect telnet?
  - I can see RNDIS mode in my E4. But it can not be activated.
     https://youtu.be/Fcy6DdPsH8E?t=2
     Same problem with this video.
  - I even don't know how to use telnet and set IP. Please give me detail explanation.

2. I can not find  'convert.exe' at this page(http://www.imagemagick.org/script/convert.php)

Thank you.
 

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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2016, 01:41:37 am »
I admire your ability.

I want remote control my hacked E4 by USB connecting.

This program is exactly what want.


But, I'm newbie. So I have some problems to use this great software. May I ask you some elementary questions?

1. How can I connect telnet?
  - I can see RNDIS mode in my E4. But it can not be activated.
     https://youtu.be/Fcy6DdPsH8E?t=2
     Same problem with this video.
  - I even don't know how to use telnet and set IP. Please give me detail explanation.

2. I can not find  'convert.exe' at this page(http://www.imagemagick.org/script/convert.php)

Thank you.

thank you too  ^-^

First, since Version 2.3.0 this Menusetting is disabled, you have to do it with "flir tools". i have a German "how do", but with images (RNDIS_einstellen.doc), inside the Ex-Tools here:
http://joe-c.de/pages/posts/programm_ex_tools_en_162.php#v009

and second, the "convert.exe" is part of the full "imagemagic" package, download here:
http://www.imagemagick.org/script/binary-releases.php
after install you should found it in install dir.

not that comfortable, i know, i will work later on it. :-/O
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2016, 08:17:58 am »
The new Version is out.
the next will follow in a few days because the DIY-Thermocam has a new FW Update a some hours ago. There was some huge changes for that device.

Additional there is a Camera comparison between Seek Thermal XR, DIY-Thermocam (Lepton3) and FLIR Ex (enhanced FLIR E4)
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2016, 07:57:11 pm »
Good job, those comparison shots really show off the technology gap. I was surprised to see the Seek perform as well as it did for you after cleaning up the image. Congrats.
 

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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2016, 07:00:46 am »
Any plans to release the source code?

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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2016, 07:33:52 am »
@joe-c
Great images :-+
Which algorithm do you use for denoise the Seek images?
I'm looking for a good denoise code for the Lepton 3 sensor ...

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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2016, 08:50:27 am »
Any plans to release the source code?
No, but it will remain Freeware. The source of the Seek Image acquisition is here in the Forum (V006 was the last.)
Which algorithm do you use for denoise the Seek images?
I'm looking for a good denoise code for the Lepton 3 sensor ...
the Processing is Interpolation x2 for all, for Ex and Lepton additional a Sharping filter and for the seek just a fresh reference frame from the Wall.
sadly the Seek shifts random pixel after the next NUC and so you have that image only for short time. so you need a double NUC for a clear image.

I tried some tests with the Frame ID6 but i never get a better image than before. Sadly Seek don't tell anything about her processing, i ask... and they told me that is "company confidential". and there is still no SDK.
but i don't give up yet  :-/O
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2016, 10:04:28 am »
Any plans to release the source code?
No, but it will remain Freeware. The source of the Seek Image acquisition is here in the Forum (V006 was the last.)

I respect your decision. That said, I do hope you'll reconsider it in the future. As far as I'm aware, there is no open-source thermal image analysis software other than the one for DIY-Thermocam. A free (as in freedom) program would be of great benefit to the thermography community.

I do have two other questions, though:

1. Would you be willing to accept code contributions from other developers?
2. Would you be willing to contribute code (or at least your knowledge) to a similar open-source project?
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2016, 01:55:55 pm »
1. Would you be willing to accept code contributions from other developers?
2. Would you be willing to contribute code (or at least your knowledge) to a similar open-source project?
1. Sure.
2. Yes, to both ways.

There is a lot of things i will build in later... Super resolution, maybe Panorama, some of the Functions from that:
http://joe-c.de/pages/posts/programm_ex_tools_158.php#v009

in the next Days  a release for the DIY-Thermocam will follow, to support the actual FW.  :-/O
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2016, 08:24:26 am »
the next Version is out...1.0.4.1:
1. the DIY-Thermocam is Supported since FW1.23
 (Known Issue: if you will change the Shuttermode [Automatic/Manual], the Camera stops communication and is no more accessible, until your restart the Camera... we work on this  :-/O
Switch the Laser and trigger the Shutter works)
2. new Window: Histogram is done and visible
3. new Window: Image Browser is done and visible. Reads Images as thumbnail from selected folders or Drives (DIY-Thermocam)
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2016, 12:43:43 am »
Amazing work! Thanks for your effort!

I am wondering if it is possible to use your software to blend/overlay a thermal image with an image taken with e.g. a canon s100 camera? (from what I understand this is not yet possible)

If not, would it be tricky to add the functionality that the user can modify e.g. an xml file and add his/her camera to that file, and that Thermovision then reads this file and adjust settings, parameters depending on the camera used?

Regards
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2016, 07:02:16 am »
Hello,
I am wondering if it is possible to use your software to blend/overlay a thermal image with an image taken with e.g. a canon s100 camera? (from what I understand this is not yet possible)
the canon s100 looks like a normal digital camera. Images from Cameras like that you can easy load as "visual" image.
See the Screenshot below... open your IR Image (which camera you have?) and make a right mouse click inside the "Visual" Window (inside the red box), then a mouse menu appear. If you click on "load Vis image" you can browse to your image and open it.
for this example i use a 2560x1920... this is to much, it works, but very slow.

So you can store both images, IR and Visual together in one "Thermovision" File (.jpg) by click on "quicksave" in the menu above (or hit <ENTER> in the textbox besides).
If not, would it be tricky to add the functionality that the user can modify e.g. an xml file and add his/her camera to that file, and that Thermovision then reads this file and adjust settings, parameters depending on the camera used?
well, there exist a "ir Decoder" function for read the raw values from many cameras. The Screenshot shows the "ds250C_we_ap_fi_le_static.gan" Map file for the FLIR E4 (Gain and Death pixel map).
If you get the raw image its still hard to find the right Offset and Span values to get usable temperature values.
(image is only load if the calculated Temperature is between -50°C and +500°C)
But maybe a "config file" style is a more comfortable way.

Maybe i later implant a extern editable config file to easy drop or open other images.  :-/O
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2016, 10:16:03 pm »
Thank you!

Yes, the Canon s100 is a regular digital camera.

I don't have the LWIR camera/sensor yet. I am following several threads on e.g. eevblog to get a better understanding (of sensors and post processing alternatives) to allow me to decide.

With that said, I am tempted to go with a Lepton 3 and see what I can do with images from such a low cost sensor.

I will probably return to this thread once I actually have thermal images and have used Thermovision.

Thanks again!

Regards
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2016, 06:33:32 am »
Version 1.0.5.0 is done now:
- it has a new Cal window (actual only 2 point calibration)
more infos here: https://learn.adafruit.com/calibrating-sensors/two-point-calibration
this works for Seek Thermal (manual enter the reference values) and the
DIY-Thermocam (using the internal manufacture calibrated spot sensor)
- has a fullscreen mode
- upports export as 16bit *.tif
- autoselect for filedrop could be selected
- communication kernel for DIY-Thermocam improved

there was some *.rtf files to describe the 2 point calibration process for the DIY-Thermocam in the bin/ folder.
they are maybe in bad english... feel free to improve and share those files  O0
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2016, 11:33:01 am »
hiya Joe-c. Been using your latest version. Works great with my Seek. I have yet to go through all the photos ive took, so ill post some later.
 
Couldnt figure out the calibration feature though...ill fiddle with it later along with some of the other features
Any way i can add my own color palettes?

Anyway... :clap: :-+
 


 


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