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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #175 on: December 10, 2017, 01:06:19 pm »
Is there a way to update it or do I have to remove all files and get the new version?
 

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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #176 on: December 10, 2017, 06:34:36 pm »
Is there a way to update it or do I have to remove all files and get the new version?
the Folder Design was for parallel use of multiple Versions.
Just unpack the new version somewere and copy the Folder:
TVision_V1.8.0.0
into your Folder.

I you want to experiment with the generic DLL you have to copy or create the folders:
TVisionData\TCamDll1
TVisionData\TCamDll2
If not, just deactivate them on "Devices\Hide Devices"
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #177 on: December 10, 2017, 11:02:33 pm »
I don't think it's possible to throughput my Lepton sensor through the Android of my CAT. So there is only the indented way to access the camera.
 

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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #178 on: December 12, 2017, 09:42:43 am »
Wow, this is very cool. Works great with my Seek Pro so far!

One question: Can one do the external calibration using the internal shutter? There doesn't seem to be control over it, and I find myself currently getting the best image using the "Image as offsetcal (NUC without shutter)", but it needs redoing fairly often and external blocking...

R

PS: Is there documentation anywhere? I have no idea how to use the Planck calibration, for example.



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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #179 on: December 12, 2017, 10:34:18 am »
One question: Can one do the external calibration using the internal shutter?

As far as I understand, commands that control the shutter seem to be disabled, so there's no way to do it manually.
When I receive my Seek Pro I will be looking into making it work, perhaps some mode allows you to toggle it via USB.
 

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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #180 on: January 03, 2018, 06:33:15 pm »
Hi,
Is there any way to invert camera image in both X and Y in Thermovision ?
This would be great for single IR lens modders :)

Time for a self-reply:

It appears that both horizontal and vertical mirror flip to the image is possible from menu under right-mouse-click on the image area.
Took some time but found an answer. Great job.
 

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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #181 on: January 18, 2018, 12:47:21 am »
Something amazing about my seek pro on my PC
When I use the function "Device:Seek Thermal"  to get the image,I sometimes get a high frame rate (>14).
And the connect is not very stable, after about 200 seconds the seek pro stop working and the "stream" button turn to red and can never start stream. I have to connect it to my cellphone to "awake" it.
I Captured the communication between PC and seek pro,as the attachment 1,you can see the interval between two frames is about 60ms.

However,when I use the function"Device:TcamDLL" or modified SeekOFix,the interval is about 100ms .
My PC is Intel G4560 + 4G DDR4 RAM + 128G SanDisk SSD.
 

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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #182 on: January 19, 2018, 07:04:25 am »
good evening
And the connect is not very stable, after about 200 seconds the seek pro stop working and the "stream" button turn to red and can never start stream. I have to connect it to my cellphone to "awake" it.
I Captured the communication between PC and seek pro,as the attachment 1,you can see the interval between two frames is about 60ms.
it sounds strange... you have to disconnect from pc an connect to cellphone before you reconnect to pc?
i have no more a pro here, so i cant make more trys with it.
However,when I use the function"Device:TcamDLL" or modified SeekOFix,the interval is about 100ms.
TcamDll and Seek tap delivers not the same speed? i have to look about that.
thank you.
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #183 on: February 23, 2018, 10:53:28 pm »
Hello Joe-c,

First of all, THANKS YOU for this amazing piece of software. With my customzied E4 i'am now able to get very nice final IR pics.

I am looking how to merge IR and visual (like MSX with Flir cams) in the software ? Is it possible yet ?

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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #184 on: February 25, 2018, 02:21:17 am »
Hello and thank you.
I am looking how to merge IR and visual (like MSX with Flir cams) in the software ? Is it possible yet ?
Yes, here some Variations:
http://joe-c.de/pages/posts/version_1.4.4.2_199.php#VisVariations
In Tab "Visual":
-goto bottom left "Effects" -> Visual Relief
In Tab "MainIR":
-goto Tab "Functions" -> Illustration (on Top) -> Area "Visual Blending"
-enable Active and Visual Relief Overlay

-the Settings "Single" and "Visual Relief Overlay" will affect both Areas (MainIR and Visual).
I hope it Helps.
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #185 on: February 27, 2018, 01:46:55 am »
thank you.  :-+
first one with visual tab seems not working, no IR is displayed whatever ir overlay is checked or not.
is there any way to adjust visual position / zooming when workiing on main IR tab ?
 

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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #186 on: February 27, 2018, 08:32:31 pm »
Hello,
Cool application, respect for you. There are so many options that I will learn a lot of time. I am using Flir E4/8 on win 10 64bit and after installing zadig driver camera is not visible as mass storage. How can I restore that ? When i open flirinstall.exe for exit RNIDS i only see option "no camera selected"

Edit: I made mistake when using zadig i set drivers for "Flir Ex" and "Flir usb video" and should only Flir usb video. So do not change your hid usb drivers ;) After reinstalling drivers all works fine.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2018, 11:58:41 pm by Micz »
 

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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #187 on: February 28, 2018, 07:42:25 am »
first one with visual tab seems not working, no IR is displayed whatever ir overlay is checked or not.
this can have 2 reasons:
1. above the Visual image is a Mode selecting Box... if there was "only Visual" selected, you get only the visual image, for blending or visual isotherm select another mode there
2. maybe the image is drawn "out of range", on bottom right there is a button called "Positions" there you can see the X/Y offset and the Size in Width and Height.
You can make a right click and choose from Mouse Contextmenu the Function "Standard Offset", this calculate the Ir Image in the Center with little place to the borders. Its a good Startpoint for most cameras.
is there any way to adjust visual position / zooming when workiing on main IR tab ?
Yes... you net to activate Functions->Illustration->use Keyboard
than you can Move with WASD, adjust Width with QE and adjust Height with RF and with YX you can adjust the blending factor.
Another Keystrokes here:
http://joe-c.de/pages/posts/funktionstasten_und_tastaturbefehle_196.php
... on win 10 64bit ... After reinstalling drivers all works fine.
Really? i had massive problems with E4 and E40 using my Win8.1 and Win10 Tablet, on Win 7 x84 it just work like expected.
But if it just works  :-+
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #188 on: March 14, 2018, 03:42:40 am »
Hello,

I was wandering if I can use this software with a Guide M3?
Does it need a special dll?


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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #189 on: March 14, 2018, 09:00:40 am »
I was wandering if I can use this software with a Guide M3?
Does it need a special dll?
Hello to the new Home of one of Frasers Cameras  8)

there is not a special dll, but the "support" of the Guide Mx Cameras is from the early days and need to be improved.

How it actual works:
- select from Menu: File-> "Drop -> IR Decoder Image"
(this will thread all Drag&Drop Files to be open with the generic IR-Image decoder)
- goto Functions -> IR-Image Decoder and select from "Choose your type of Camera" the "Guide M3 (120x160 *.IRI)"
- after that, you can just drop your IRI Images and they should be acquired as Frame

sadly the translation to Temperatures is rudimental... you have an offset and a Span value (see "Setttings>>>" Subwindow).
This handles a Raw value as linear to the temperature... but most likely the raw value is linear to the radiation, not the temperature.
Anyway... here you can adjust the values to acquire "in the near of the real temperature".
if the image was dropped and loaded, the max and min value was shown next to the "Setttings>>>" Button (red for max and blue for the min). there you can adjust the temperature and the whole image was recalculated.

I sadly never get a response from Guide, how I have to read there format... Satir (*.SAT) and Testo (*.BMT) also don't answer.
maybe I should use the Planck calibration also for IR Decoded images, this is probably a better way than using a 2 Point calibration style.

Hope it helps.
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #190 on: March 14, 2018, 09:16:24 am »
 Hello,

Yes I got one of Fraser's camera !

Thanks for the explanations. I also managed to read raw value from IRI file and did a 2 points calibration for temperature but it doesnt work well. I took 2 pictures and span and offset are quite different :( I will try to improve it.

Thanks for your help

 

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« Reply #191 on: March 22, 2018, 08:49:15 am »
Hi,

Love the Thermovision software!
It got me curious if there would be any interest in implementing the Palette Generator palette files into Thermovision for creating custom thermal palettes? Either by using the exported flir .pal file, or the palette generator save file (.ppg). Both formats are easy to parse.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2018, 09:26:10 am by MyThermalWorld »
 

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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #192 on: March 24, 2018, 06:08:20 am »
Hi,

Love the Thermovision software!
Hi, thank you.
It got me curious if there would be any interest in implementing the Palette Generator palette files into Thermovision for creating custom thermal palettes? Either by using the exported flir .pal file, or the palette generator save file (.ppg). Both formats are easy to parse.
Since version 1.0.7.0 there is an "extern Palette" choosable.
http://joe-c.de/pages/posts/version_1.0.0.0_-_1.4.3.2_194.php#V1_0_7_0

this can be a Picture like *.jpg or *.png, you just have to place the palette image in \TVisionData, select it and adjust the top and left offset, if your image has one.
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #193 on: March 27, 2018, 09:43:41 pm »
Since version 1.0.7.0 there is an "extern Palette" choosable.
http://joe-c.de/pages/posts/version_1.0.0.0_-_1.4.3.2_194.php#V1_0_7_0

this can be a Picture like *.jpg or *.png, you just have to place the palette image in \TVisionData, select it and adjust the top and left offset, if your image has one.

I can implement so that the palette bar can be exported to that folder. I'll implement that in the next version.

I attached a demo palette file (Demo.ppg) (note: attached file extension chagned to .txt due to eevblog file restriction) and you can see if you will implement it.
It basically consists of a list of points with 4 values representing the temperature in percentage and it's color in RGB.
# is comment
Colorpara: %; red channel; green channel; blue channel;

Than all colors in between the range is calculated by linearizing it or scaling the values.

---- Example ----
# Linearization parameters
ColorPara: 0;30;30;30;
ColorPara: 5,6;67;19;106;
ColorPara: 11,1;0;0;160;
ColorPara: 16,7;0;0;250;
ColorPara: 22,2;5;95;250;
ColorPara: 27,8;5;160;250;
ColorPara: 33,3;16;243;243;
ColorPara: 38,9;5;220;160;
ColorPara: 44,4;4;198;96;
ColorPara: 50;4;179;0;
ColorPara: 55,6;95;210;0;
ColorPara: 61,1;156;223;0;
ColorPara: 66,7;250;235;0;
ColorPara: 72,2;250;160;10;
ColorPara: 77,8;245;120;0;
ColorPara: 83,3;243;10;16;
ColorPara: 88,9;145;0;0;
ColorPara: 94,4;245;195;230;
ColorPara: 100;245;245;245;
---- Example end -----

These parameters gives this palette


« Last Edit: March 27, 2018, 09:45:31 pm by MyThermalWorld »
 
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #194 on: March 31, 2018, 06:05:27 pm »
Hi joe-c!

Thank you for excellent software, it's a bomb relative to software supplied by TE!

Only one thing I'm not sure about it.. can it record video?
 

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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #195 on: April 03, 2018, 05:26:22 am »
I attached a demo palette file (Demo.ppg) (note: attached file extension chagned to .txt due to eevblog file restriction) and you can see if you will implement it.
I have not much time yet, but its one the Todo List.
Only one thing I'm not sure about it.. can it record video?
Thank you.
and yes, there 2 different ways to do it. both can be found on "Functions" Tab.

1. "thermal sequence" store radiometric frames in a file. Each frame can regular be used for Measurements.

2. "Movie" will grab images in a *.avi file. the MainIR window or the Visual window (with overlay) can be used as source.

I hope you find what you looking for.
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #196 on: April 14, 2018, 05:19:07 pm »
MyThermalWorld you have a PM  :-/O.
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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #197 on: April 18, 2018, 10:00:51 am »
Hello Joe-C,
Here's some screen shots from when I try and connect to my DIY-Thermocam. I sent them via email to you, but maybe you didn't get them.
Let me know if you need anything else from me.
Thanks,

Jeff
 

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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #198 on: June 22, 2018, 12:51:16 am »
I'am trying to get this software to work on my Windows 10 PC. The Software runs but I'am unable to install any driver for my Seek Thermal camera. (Connected via Micro USB to USB-C cable) There are two devices appearing in the device manager when I connect the camera, but I wasn't able to install any of the drivers for those devices. Is there a guide somewhere on how to install the correct drivers?
 

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Re: Freeware Software for Thermal Analysis: Thermovision_JoeC
« Reply #199 on: June 22, 2018, 06:02:25 am »
There are two devices appearing in the device manager when I connect the camera, but I wasn't able to install any of the drivers for those devices. Is there a guide somewhere on how to install the correct drivers?
you need to install the zadig drivers (winusb).
https://zadig.akeo.ie/

See Attachment, its for the pro, but similar to the regular seek.
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