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Offline gmit77

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #50 on: March 03, 2015, 10:05:38 am »
FLIR just informed us we need to wait 10 days to get the C2s  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #51 on: March 10, 2015, 09:53:44 am »
FLIR C2 is arriving today! as soon as they step in we take some images and publish here
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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2015, 11:33:31 am »
here we are, C2 available now free shipping to Europe don't forget to ask discount code PM
I start a new post named "FLIR C2 images"
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-c2-images/
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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #53 on: March 10, 2015, 03:11:15 pm »
here we are, C2 available now free shipping to Europe don't forget to ask discount code PM
I start a new post named "FLIR C2 images"
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flir-c2-images/
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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #54 on: March 10, 2015, 03:54:36 pm »
Any progress yet on the C8 hack?  :-DD
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #55 on: March 10, 2015, 11:40:33 pm »
FYI the new FLIR One has two detectors in it, which bumps up the resolution and overall quality.
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #56 on: March 11, 2015, 12:12:12 am »
FYI the new FLIR One has two detectors in it, which bumps up the resolution and overall quality.
The new F1 has the new 160x120 Lepton, presumably also the MSX camera
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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2015, 07:40:35 am »
FYI the new FLIR One has two detectors in it, which bumps up the resolution and overall quality.
Hmmm I didn't think that was the case, but will confirm with my source!
FYI the new FLIR One has two detectors in it, which bumps up the resolution and overall quality.
The new F1 has the new 160x120 Lepton, presumably also the MSX camera
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #58 on: March 12, 2015, 10:28:38 am »
FYI the new FLIR One has two detectors in it, which bumps up the resolution and overall quality.
Hmmm I didn't think that was the case, but will confirm with my source!

Flir have publically stated the new F1 is 160x120. 
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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #59 on: March 12, 2015, 10:30:50 am »
FYI the new FLIR One has two detectors in it, which bumps up the resolution and overall quality.
Hmmm I didn't think that was the case, but will confirm with my source!

Flir have publically stated the new F1 is 160x120.

Must have missed that! I wonder if they'll have the cores available soon and at a similar price to the 80x60.
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #60 on: May 13, 2015, 02:24:35 pm »
So the new F1 will have better resolution than their C2?
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #61 on: May 13, 2015, 04:40:13 pm »
Yes.

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A more powerful thermal sensor with four times the resolution for crisper and clearer thermal images. http://www.flir.com/flirone/press/FLIR-ONE-Android-iOS-FAQ.pdf
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #62 on: May 13, 2015, 08:53:53 pm »
Was it ever shown that the 4x resolution is because of a new Lepton, and not a new Lepton firmware? </wishfulthinking>
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #63 on: May 13, 2015, 10:24:43 pm »
Was it ever shown that the 4x resolution is because of a new Lepton, and not a new Lepton firmware? </wishfulthinking>
Lepton sensor is definitely 80x60 physical pixels - see my extreme teardown
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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #64 on: June 07, 2015, 12:57:46 am »
FLIR have posted some SDK documentation videos (for android & iOS) for the new FLIR One on vimeo: https://vimeo.com/flironedeveloper/videos

Hopefully the FLIR One gen 2 release is imminent... I've been waiting too long for this.

We also get to see some images straight from the new FLIR One in the screen recordings. The quality certainly seems better than Gen 1.




 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #65 on: June 21, 2015, 09:54:25 am »
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #66 on: June 21, 2015, 04:48:47 pm »
One interesting bit of information is that FLIR updated the FLIR one application on Jun 15th adding support for the second generation F1.  1.5.2 was highly stable with Rosebud on 1.0.9 firmware but since the 2.0.1 update it's extremely unstable evidently causing interconnectivity issues between the F1 and the host device requiring either a reboot or sled removal.  This happens to me constantly so much so that the application is unusable.  Seems Seek is making forward progress on the software side and FLIR is making negative progress. :(

180x120 would be very interesting, I'll be watching the thread.   The 80x60 is nice but 180x120 would be fantastic if it lands at a sub $300 USD price point.

Regarding the internal battery on the 2nd generation F1, I wonder what it's capacity is?
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #67 on: June 21, 2015, 09:30:56 pm »
Aurora linked a cost analysis study for the Seek Thermal in another thread, and even if the images where blurry (on purpose since they want you probably to purchase it) it looked like the manufacturing cost of the Seek is under $100. So they have a nice margin to play with.
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #68 on: June 21, 2015, 10:03:51 pm »
Here is a link to the PDF of the SEEK camera costing report, but it contains blurred data as they want to sell teh complete report for more than $3000.

http://www.systemplus.fr/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/S-C_RS201_Seek-Thermal-Camera_Sample_V2.pdf

And the earlier version in case it is different:

http://www.systemplus.fr/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/S-C_RS201_Seek-Thermal-Camera_Sample.pdf

An interesting insight into the cost of production even so.

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #69 on: June 21, 2015, 10:50:36 pm »

Regarding the internal battery on the 2nd generation F1, I wonder what it's capacity is?
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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #70 on: June 22, 2015, 01:12:13 am »
Interesting so suspect LiPo ~350mAh - ~550mAh for PHY case constraints?  Mike/Aurora would love to see a teardown on the F1 gen 2; if indeed it's 180x120 I'm going to be amazed at Moore's law accelerated if it's a Lepton.  Hopefully the price point is sub ~300USD which makes it competitive.  Curious to see how they handle the solenoid and automatic shuttering whilst they ... ... ... evolve a form factor and auto-shuttering that's currently available.

Been fairly happy with the 80x60 for approximations and under visible light the MSX blending helps but 2.0.1 FLIR ONE app was horrific.  1.5.2 was stable and if they're ushering this out to the generic public without proper QA it points to QA/QC issues and a "rush to market" competitive model.

All in all, great to see a comparison.  Good friend went with the Seek so we're actively (as scientifically as possible) comparing and contrasting the models.

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #71 on: June 22, 2015, 04:45:51 am »
I think it's almost confirmed that the new FLIR one will be much higher res.

I found FLIR's dev site... not very well hidden: http://www.flir.com/dev/flirone/

Under how the new FLIR one is better than the old one;

"A more powerful thermal sensor with four times the resolution for crisper and clearer thermal images."
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #72 on: June 23, 2015, 06:29:24 pm »
FLIR just released firmware 1.0.11 for the FLIR ONE gen1 which addresses the connectivity issues introduced in FLIR ONE 2.0.1.  It takes a few tries to get the firmware to "take" due to the connectivity issues.  Also, a battery of 100% is reported as less than 50% (seems math error) but 99% worked fine.
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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #73 on: June 25, 2015, 12:12:57 pm »
http://www.flir.com/flirone/display/?id=69324

New FLIR One Released.

iOS avaliable now, Android still pre-order (ugh)

$249 USD, same price as seek.
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #74 on: June 25, 2015, 12:15:13 pm »
http://www.flir.com/flirone/display/?id=69324

New FLIR One Released.

iOS avaliable now, Android still pre-order (ugh)

$249 USD, same price as seek.

No mention of resolution though....
Just ordered the Android & it says delivery expected Jul 30-Aug 13 :'(
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