New Flir products

[Uho]

I fully agree with Fraser. If they put the optics   12 degrees will be competition the 24 degree  model matrix 240x180.

[kanzas19]

From what distance ...

The picture was taken from a distance of 30m.
Unfortunately in TK there is no pallete "Rainbow" - it's my favorite.
(Can we install it?)
I bought it for trips to the forest. I like to watch the small animals, birds.
(I'm not a hunter)
TK is a handy, small but the picture is worse than Flir i3 improved from 60x60 to 100x100 pix.
If it were, you can inexpensively replace the detector for a better and add a rainbow palette that would be great.
If no...what a pity.

[Ben321]

The Tau series has been around a few years now. In its most basic configuration the camera is Digital only with a 14bit data interface. In order to use it with other communications or video protocols additional interfaces have to be added to to the TAU2.  The TAU core is highly configurable in firmware and as such it can be locked down by FLIR to what ever configuration they desire. If they want to limit its abilities or its interface options, they easily can.

The FLIR core website provides plenty of data on teh connectivity and configuration. There is even free firmware configuration software for download. Such configuration can be disabled by FLIR though.

http://www.flir.com/cores/display/?id=54717

Composite video/USB interface module

http://www.flirshop.com/product/tau-vpc-module/Tau640-Accessories

I have met the TAU2 in professional CCTV cameras as it is a high performance core at a commercially reasonable price. Those TAU cameras were locked down to composite video only and regrettably I had no way to test the 14bit interface functionality. Sorry I can't offer more help on this.

Fraser

Is there a way to hack the firmware settings in a Tau2, just like there is with the E4? Can't you just undo FLIR's "lock down" of the camera, by uploading a new configuration file to it, via USB?

[Fraser]

Simple and short answer..... NO.

The Tau is very different to the Ex series

Fraser

[Chanc3]

New Exx cameras just announced. Full press release below:

FLIR Launches New Generation of Advanced Thermal Imaging Cameras for Electro-Mechanical, Plant and Building Professionals
Completely Redesigned Exx-Series Offers Intelligent Interchangeable Lenses, Laser-Assisted Autofocus, Higher Resolutions, and a Larger, Brighter Touchscreen

WILSONVILLE, OR -- (Marketwired) -- 02/16/17 -- FLIR Systems, Inc. (NASDAQ: FLIR) announced today three new Exx-Series advanced thermal imaging cameras for electrical, mechanical, and building applications: the FLIR E75, E85, and E95. The redesigned, Wi-Fi-enabled Exx-Series features intelligent interchangeable lenses, laser-assisted autofocus modes and area measurement functionality, improvements to FLIR's patented MSX® imaging technology, and a larger, more vibrant 4-inch touchscreen. These distinctive features, combined with increased sensitivity and increased native resolution, will help professionals identify hot spots or building deficiencies before potential problems become expensive repairs.

In redesigning the Exx-Series, FLIR developed a new range of compact intelligent, interchangeable lenses that the camera automatically recognizes and calibrates, eliminating the need for manual calibration. The Exx-Series now also features laser distance measurement that assures precise autofocus to improve temperature measurement accuracy, and specifically for the FLIR E85 and E95 models, provides the data for on-screen area measurement in square feet or meters. In addition, the FLIR E85 and E95 models offer increased thermal detector resolutions with up to 464×348 (161,472 pixels), and measure temperatures up to 1,500 degrees Celsius.

In conjunction with FLIR Tools™, the FLIR E75, E85, and E95 are the first Exx cameras to offer UltraMax®, FLIR's embedded, super-resolution process that improves effective resolution by four times -- up to 645,888 pixels -- and thermal sensitivity by up to 50 percent. All models also feature significant improvement to FLIR's MSX technology, which now utilizes a 5-megapixel visual camera for improved image clarity and readability. These improvements, combined with a display that is 33 percent brighter and 30 percent larger than previous Exx models, yield more vibrant and detailed thermal imagery.

The Exx-Series cameras also feature a rugged, water-resistant design and scratch-resistant Dragontrail™ cover glass over an optically-bonded, projected capacitive (PCAP) touchscreen. A simplified user interface delivers faster, more intuitive operation, and coupled with enhanced Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and Meterlink® connectivity, archiving and report generation has never been easier.

"Redesigned from the handle up, the new series of Exx cameras is a significant achievement in terms of advanced functionality, performance, and ease of use in thermal cameras for electro-mechanical, plant, and building inspections," says Andy Teich, President and CEO at FLIR. "With an ever-broadening base of users who demand thermal cameras that are compact, capable and easy to use, the advanced Exx cameras check every box."

The FLIR E75, E85, and E95 cameras will be available for sale in March through established FLIR distribution partners and the FLIR.com store. For more information, visit www.flir.com/exx-series.

No pics yet!

[frenky]

First pics 




PDF flyer:
http://www.datatec.de/shop/artikelpdf/785020301_d.pdf

more:
http://www.tequipment.net/FLIR/E95/
http://www.transcat.com/flir-e95-advanced-thermal-camera

[frenky]

And some videos which are note ready jet?
https://www.youtube.com/user/BatterFly2002/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0

[tomas123]

the resolution is mystic 
E75: 320 x 240 (76,800 pixels) 
E85: 384 x 288 (110,592 pixels)
E95: 464 x 348 (161,472 pixels)

320x1,20 =384
320x1,45 =464

384 x 288 is a "common" microbolometer size, but what is the real sensor resolution for this series?

480x360 or 640x480

[Fraser]

Resolution is suspiciously unusual. Looks like they have a 640x480 pixel FPA in that camera. Software hobbling at work again.

Watch out for the marketing speak as well. Super resolution can work but it definitely does not work as well as a camera with the true physical resolution that Super resoluton tries to emulate.

FLIR have also released some new maritime cameras, the M100 and M200. The M100 has manual tile only and the M200 has remote pan tilt. Flipping marketing people at work again. Maritime cameras normally need Pan and tilrwithnremote control dpso the M100 seems a little flawed.

The M100 and M200 are using the Boson core.

http://www.flir.com/cores/content/?id=74595&pi_ad_id=138570921491&gclid=Cj0KEQiAuJXFBRDirIGnpZLE-N4BEiQAqV0KGmy3PkpAIJXXg8yKrGbRmcb5kkqBdWwT_wyGoVH7hX8aAs9H8P8HAQ

Fraser

[Fraser]

M100 and M200 camera details

http://www.flir.com/home/news/details/?ID=82804

Fraser

[encryptededdy]

the resolution is mystic 
E75: 320 x 240 (76,800 pixels) 
E85: 384 x 288 (110,592 pixels)
E95: 464 x 348 (161,472 pixels)

320x1,20 =384
320x1,45 =464

384 x 288 is a "common" microbolometer size, but what is the real sensor resolution for this series?

480x360 or 640x480

I believe the FLIR T-Series 480x360 cameras use 640x480 sensors, so unless they developed a new 480x360 sensor then they're probably using a 640x480 sensor.

[ixfd64]

the resolution is mystic 
E75: 320 x 240 (76,800 pixels) 
E85: 384 x 288 (110,592 pixels)
E95: 464 x 348 (161,472 pixels)

320x1,20 =384
320x1,45 =464

384 x 288 is a "common" microbolometer size, but what is the real sensor resolution for this series?

480x360 or 640x480

I wonder how hackable they are. Anyone going to be the guinea pig and buy one?

[frenky]

I guess probability of Flir sending one unit to Mike is not really a huge one...

[Chanc3]

I believe the FLIR T-Series 480x360 cameras use 640x480 sensors, so unless they developed a new 480x360 sensor then they're probably using a 640x480 sensor.

They do indeed use the 640x480 detector and yes they are hackable to the full res

They are based on new Linux OS and apparently the bits we'd want to hack are heavily encrypted!

Pricing will be around £6K for E75 with either a 42° or 24° lens and around £8K for the E95

FLIR have dropped the price of the T640 by £7K, which hints at a new model with a 640x480 detector. The T600 and T620 are also "By request" now, which further supports this.

Expect to see a number of the older E30-E60 cameras hit the used market at a good price!

I'm going to see if I can order one of these in for work to retire some of the older cameras we still use.

[frenky]

http://www.datatec.de/Flir-Waermebildkamera-E95-785020301.htm

Here is E95 listed at 10k€ + VAT, that is approx 12,000€ for regular mortals. 

[Chanc3]

http://www.datatec.de/Flir-Waermebildkamera-E95-785020301.htm

Here is E95 listed at 10k€ + VAT, that is approx 12,000€ for regular mortals. 

Yeah that looks right, considering the FX rate.

Availability is 1st March.

[Fraser]

The lens on the E95 looks somewhat small in diameter to my eyes. It makes me wonder whether the Boson640 core is in the new model.

Call me old fashioned, but I like to see a nice large diameter lens on a camera 

Fraser

[Bill W]

Fraser,

Boson would be a 12u, the datasheet most closely lines up with Tau2 (industrial spec) with a 17u 640x510 in it as the 'sensitivity' is the least likely number to be adjusted by marketing.

Based on a 42° FoV and using the actual sensor pixel count of 640 horizontally gives a lens focal length of 15mm.  As you'd rarely go over f/1 it should only be 15mm diameter.
If the resolution uses less of the sensor then focal length reduces as does the front element size for an f/1.

Datasheet link says the 42° lens is a 10mm FL so f/1 is 10mm diameter anyway and says that the lens is not filling the sensor.  The 464 wide is probably 'real' pixels as that adds up to 10mm F/L.  Cheaper lens not filling the sensor.
Back to Frasers' point, this is the same outcome as a 640 sensor at 12u.

The lower apertures make the front element a little smaller and so worse sensitivity will result.  The 30mK is up to low 40's to 50mK just because of the lens apertures.

Bill

[sam1275]

No one mentioned the official new Exx webpage?
http://www.flir.com/instruments/content/?id=82350
I just post it here for reference.

[ixfd64]

Someone on the InterNACHI forums claims to have inside information that FLIR is dropping the prices of the older models: https://nachi.org/forum/f58/flir-updating-their-camera-lines-and-lowing-prices-119616

[Chanc3]

I've got the new 2017 price list in front of me (second revision this year already!): They dropped the price of the T640 by £7K and my FLIR contact confirmed that there are new cameras still to come...

[Fraser]

This demonstrates the profit margins involved with FLIR cameras these days. Try getting £7K off of a new car.... the salesman would likely laugh you out of the showroom I am not knocking FLIR though. They are a specialist OEM and the industrial market will pay the prices being asked.

Fraser

[Milt]

Received the new FLIR E95 camera a few days ago. Here are some early images. Let me know if you want to see something in particular and I will do my best, haha.

[mikeselectricstuff]

I guess probability of Flir sending one unit to Mike is not really a huge one...

Seems unlikely

[frenky]

Received the new FLIR E95 camera a few days ago. Here are some early images. Let me know if you want to see something in particular and I will do my best, haha.

Very nice. Not sure if images are 10k$ nice.