New Flir products

[Chanc3]

I#'ve dropped my contact at FLIR a the question about res, hopefully he'll be able to enlighten us, as it'll be a shame if it is just the 80x60 and very not cool that they haven't stated it.

[TopLoser]

No mention of resolution though....

http://www.flir.com/flirone/press/FLIR-ONE-Android-iOS-FAQ.pdf

How are the new FLIR ONEs better than the original? 

Available in either iOS or Android hardware versions, FLIR ONE features: 
•    A more powerful thermal sensor with four times the resolution for crisper and clearer thermal images.
•    Automatic tuning. There is no need to manually tune the device for optimum use.
•    A lighter-weight design that is less than a third the weight of the original

[mikeselectricstuff]

No mention of resolution though....

•    A more powerful thermal sensor with four times the resolution for crisper and clearer thermal images.

Doesn't say if it's spatial resolution or better NETD..

[TopLoser]

No mention of resolution though....

•    A more powerful thermal sensor with four times the resolution for crisper and clearer thermal images.

Doesn't say if it's spatial resolution or better NETD..

Well they quote 0.1 degree differences are visible, don't know what the original was specced at.

Nice that the range has increased though (-20° to 120°C)

[TopLoser]

http://image-sensors-world.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/2nd-generation-flir-one-camera.html

FLIR CEO Andy Teich says in a Youtube video that the new Lepton core features 4x higher resolution than the old camera. Electronista says that the new Lepton has 180x120 resolution. The older generation Lepton used to have 80 x 60 pixel array.



http://www.macnn.com/articles/15/01/07/upgraded.thermal.imaging.for.mobile.devices/

The resolution has also been upgraded, squeezing 180x120 pixels from the thermal camera.

[mikeselectricstuff]

http://image-sensors-world.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/2nd-generation-flir-one-camera.html

FLIR CEO Andy Teich says in a Youtube video that the new Lepton core features 4x higher resolution than the old camera. Electronista says that the new Lepton has 180x120 resolution. The older generation Lepton used to have 80 x 60 pixel array.



http://www.macnn.com/articles/15/01/07/upgraded.thermal.imaging.for.mobile.devices/

The resolution has also been upgraded, squeezing 180x120 pixels from the thermal camera.

Both of those are old sources - it's possible they intended a high-res version but subsequently decided to stick with the old sensor.
If it is higher res, why would they not put it in the specs on the product page?
 

[marshallh]

Ordered android version

[TopLoser]

Both of those are old sources - it's possible they intended a high-res version but subsequently decided to stick with the old sensor.
If it is higher res, why would they not put it in the specs on the product page?

Find out tomorrow!

Items Ordered: FLIR ONE for iOS
Unit Price:   £199.99
Item Total:  £199.99
Quantity:    1
Delivery Estimate: 26 Jun 2015

[mikeselectricstuff]

This review mentions 160x120. Also long boot time suggesting they're still using the clunky linux ARM processor, which can't be good for battery life.

http://mashable.com/2015/06/25/flir-one-second-generation-review/?utm_cid=mash-com-Tw-main-link

[Chanc3]

Just spoke with my guy at FLIR and he said it is 160x120 Hope that clarifies it for some!

[Fraser]

Just ordered a FLIR One for Android.

Looks like it is priced to be a SEEK camera killer. If the resolution and image quality are as good as I am expecting, this camera will likely make the SEEK look a very poor performer indeed.

It is cheaper than I had expected for the UK.

Affordable decent quality thermal cameras at last  (hopefully  )

I will be using mine with a relatively powerful quad core Motorola MOTO G phone.

Aurora

[Muxr]

Just ordered an iOS version as well.

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Est. Delivery Date: Jul 1 - Jul 1, 2015

[Fraser]

The new FLIR One advertising campaign looks a bit Cheesy though

http://www.flir.co.uk/flirone/   

[NathanFowler]

Thanks all for being the test subjects, hopefully we can 100% confirm it's higher resolution so I can tell the wife why I need another F1 after having purchased gen 1 not one month ago 

[Fraser]

I suggest you resell your 1st Gen One quickly as the resale value of the lower resolution version is likely to fall significantly once the public get to know of the new model ?

What the new model promises, and hopefully delivers, makes the 1st Generation ONE look cumbersome and very low resolution.

For the thermal camera experimenter this could mean cheap LEPTONs from unwanted 1st Gen ONE units ?

Aurora

[frenky]

They have added resolution on their site: http://www.flir.eu/flirone/content/?id=62910#models

160 × 120 resolution thermal accessory with MSX for Android devices with a microUSB

[TopLoser]

They have added resolution on their site: http://www.flir.eu/flirone/content/?id=62910#models

160 × 120 resolution thermal accessory with MSX for Android devices with a microUSB

They can't spell 'Lightning' though...

[TopLoser]

iOS versions out of stock now, 1-3 weeks lead time now

[Fraser]

@Toploser,

I guessed sales would be high for this product. That is why I quickly got myself on what will likely be a long pre-order waiting list for the Android version. If the 2nd Generation is as good as I suspect it will be, expect it to be a very hot seller right up to Christmas 

FLIR reputation + 19200 pixels + neat format + £199 price = A Hot Product 

Aurora

[Muxr]

iOS versions out of stock now, 1-3 weeks lead time now

Glad I got mine in the nick of time. Been meaning to get one for awhile, but it was never a priority, good thing I waited.

[TopLoser]

Just arrived. It's tiny.

Curious mix of micro USB and Lightning connector - need to carry two charger cables. Otherwise it's verynicely made and feels high quality. Downloaded the app, plugged it in and it works. Can't see any screws or fastenings so I'll leave it in one piece for now. Very pleased.

[Fraser]

@Toploser

Thanks for the pictures 

I eagerly await the arrival of my Android version sometime in July/August 

Any chance of a thermal image of a warm PCB at the minimum focus distance ? Do you have a ZnSe close-up lens that you can place in front of the thermal lens to see how it performs in close-up on a PCB ? I feel sure such pictures will be of great interest to others, and it will show the improved resolution that is hopefully present 

Oh, and a thermal image of a cars recently run engine is always pretty impressive. Don't forget the very popular image of a cup of good old English tea either 

The only concern I have regarding these units that hang on the the phone is the potential torque induced damage to the I/O connectors. My iPad Lightning connector does not look like it was designed to be used as an anchor point for anything other than a cable. Is the Lightning connector on the ONE mounted in a rubber strain relief to permit some movement by any chance ?

Thanks again for the very fast posting of images.

Enjoy your new camera  I am Soooo envious 

Thanks to your kindness, I now have an excellent 3D printer. I will hopefully be able to produce a suitable ZnSe lens holder arrangement that will hold a 12mm diameter close-up lens on the front of the camera. I will need to consider the best securing method and ergonomics. With such a close-up capability the ONE will be a very useful tool to have around for PCB diagnostics (up to a temperature of 120C ).

Best Wishes, as always

Fraser

[mikeselectricstuff]

Another useful test image would be an image of a very sharp edge at a slight angle, which can be useful to judge resolution by the jaggies.
I'm still yet to be 100% convinced there is a new Lepton with 120x160 physical pixels.

[TopLoser]

If it can be done in a car or a tent over the next few days I will try...

[Fraser]

Happy Holidays Ian 

Fraser