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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #575 on: March 29, 2017, 09:13:27 am »
Received the new FLIR E95 camera a few days ago. Here are some early images. Let me know if you want to see something in particular and I will do my best, haha.

That last image looks awesome! Love the detail from the radiator. I notice the resolution is 640x480 - can anyone explain why this is?
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #576 on: March 29, 2017, 02:58:48 pm »
Received the new FLIR E95 camera a few days ago. Here are some early images. Let me know if you want to see something in particular and I will do my best, haha.

That last image looks awesome! Love the detail from the radiator. I notice the resolution is 640x480 - can anyone explain why this is?
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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #577 on: March 29, 2017, 03:26:51 pm »
Chanc3,

FLIR upscale the image on their SCOUT II scope series from 320x240 to 640x480. I suspect they do the same on the new cameras.

FLIR are very much about making the pictures 'appear' better than the opposition. Hence the use of MSX to provide fine details.

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #578 on: March 29, 2017, 03:44:27 pm »
Ah, I didn't think that image was using MSX, but now that I look at it closer, you could be correct! Nice specc'd cameras - would be keen to know how accurate the measurement function is.
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #579 on: March 29, 2017, 10:17:31 pm »
Ah, I didn't think that image was using MSX, but now that I look at it closer, you could be correct! Nice specc'd cameras - would be keen to know how accurate the measurement function is.
I thought that was the thermal details too, and got amazed... So that's MSXed picture  |O
I guess that level of detail may only archived by cooled MWIR cameras.
How's the new Exx photo without MSX look like? Anyone have samples?
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #580 on: March 29, 2017, 10:38:36 pm »
Hey guys, those four E95 pics are WITHOUT the MSX feature. While MSX is great in certain situations, I mostly prefer to leave it off at higher resolutions.

For comparison sake, here is the radiator pic with MSX enabled. Because of the high level of detail and a slight parallax issue, it looks a little fuzzier to my eye.

 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #581 on: March 29, 2017, 11:02:37 pm »
Hey guys, those four E95 pics are WITHOUT the MSX feature. While MSX is great in certain situations, I mostly prefer to leave it off at higher resolutions.

For comparison sake, here is the radiator pic with MSX enabled. Because of the high level of detail and a slight parallax issue, it looks a little fuzzier to my eye.
That's really good to know, thanks.
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #582 on: March 30, 2017, 01:22:18 am »
Received the new FLIR E95 camera a few days ago. Here are some early images. Let me know if you want to see something in particular and I will do my best, haha.

Have you tried hacking it? :D

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #583 on: March 31, 2017, 02:43:01 am »
Received the new FLIR E95 camera a few days ago. Here are some early images. Let me know if you want to see something in particular and I will do my best, haha.

Wow - that thing does seem to get a good bit of detail out of the image!
You should make a separate post for it and put some more images up.
Played around a bit with one of your images for fun.
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #584 on: April 03, 2017, 02:06:37 pm »
Announcement coming on the 6th April - wonder what it could be?!
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #585 on: April 11, 2017, 08:21:38 pm »
Watch this space, new range announced to fill a gap currently in FLIRs line-up. Can't say anymore but should be something public towards the end of this month.

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #586 on: April 11, 2017, 08:51:57 pm »
Interesting :)

I was aware that they were releasing a new 'dual tech' visible/thermal security camera with 640x480 thermal resolution, plus they are about to release rage LEPTON 3 to OEM's for integration into 3rd party products.

A new range though ....... Hmmmmm I wonder which area of the market FLIR is going to target with that :)

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #587 on: April 24, 2017, 10:30:09 am »
This slipped through under the radar! Looks to be quite useful if you don't already have an E4 hacked to E8



FLIR ETS320
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #588 on: April 24, 2017, 10:46:32 am »
It is about time that we saw a thermal microscope ! They have been used in industry for many years. Maybe a bit specialist though ? As a dedicated tool it will not gave the wide appeal of a handheld thermal camera so is likely aimed at the production and research markets ?

Watching ants and insects through a thermal microscope can be fascinating. You can see their tiny muscles creating heat as they work. Bee's warming up their wing muscles are a great subject for such a microscope as well.

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #589 on: April 24, 2017, 10:57:10 am »
I just took a look at the specs......  what a disappointment !

45 Degree FOV with fixed focus of 70mm +-10mm !

Sadly this is not a thermal microscope as I mistakenly thought. Just a close up camera with fixed 70mm operating distance. Unimpressed.......it could easily have been made so much more versatile. At the very least it could have been offered with interchangeable lenses and a true microscope X15 lens for really small regions of interest.

As Chanc3 stated, an E4 can likely achieve the same with a ZnSe close up lense attached. With those you have a choice of 25mm, 50mm, 63mm and 100mm FL. Very shallow DOF though. Alternatively, adjustment of the E4 lens focus enables pretty good close up capabilities.

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #590 on: April 24, 2017, 11:12:29 am »
and I laughed a bit when the designer said "The Transistor was running very hot at 200c - and I could only spot it with the ETS320"......  If it really was 200c I guess it was trying to un-solder itself... and when did you stop finger testing... :) Yes you get burned from time to time - but that is kind of first test I do. But I might just be a bit silly.


 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #591 on: April 24, 2017, 12:01:10 pm »
and I laughed a bit when the designer said "The Transistor was running very hot at 200c - and I could only spot it with the ETS320"......  If it really was 200c I guess it was trying to un-solder itself... and when did you stop finger testing... :) Yes you get burned from time to time - but that is kind of first test I do. But I might just be a bit silly.

The the hottest transistors on most of my designs have 150-200 volts on them, so I'm not going to do the finger test! It's one of the main reasons I like thermal imaging.

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #592 on: April 24, 2017, 02:23:26 pm »
ETS320 is priced at approx $2500

https://www.testequity.com/products/33467/

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #593 on: May 09, 2017, 06:43:05 pm »
FLIR just announced the T500 series: http://flir.com/t500Series

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #594 on: May 09, 2017, 07:58:52 pm »
I have been tempted by the T series cameras but, if I am really honest, I just do not like the design with the rotating lens barrel on the side of the display.

It is very much a personal preference thing but I felt the same negative thoughts towards the early NIKON Coolpix 990 digital camera with similar rotating lens barrel.

If I used these cameras for a while I may change my view, but for the moment I prefer the 'gun' shaped cameras like the Ex and Exx series. Prior to that I liked the camcorder format cameras like the PM series.

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #595 on: May 11, 2017, 02:35:35 pm »
More details about the new FLIR T500 cameras:

T530 is $9995, availability as soon as next week. More specs here:
https://www.ivytools.com/flir-t530-thermal-camera-79302-0101-p/flir-t530.htm

T540 is $13,995, also with a few available next week. Specs:
https://www.ivytools.com/flir-t540-thermal-camera-79302-0201-p/flir-t540.htm

Interestingly, you can get more resolution from the new E95 (464 x 348) for the same money as the new T530 (320 x 240).
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #596 on: May 12, 2017, 03:50:19 pm »
More details about the new FLIR T500 cameras:

T530 is $9995, availability as soon as next week. More specs here:
https://www.ivytools.com/flir-t530-thermal-camera-79302-0101-p/flir-t530.htm

T540 is $13,995, also with a few available next week. Specs:
https://www.ivytools.com/flir-t540-thermal-camera-79302-0201-p/flir-t540.htm

Interestingly, you can get more resolution from the new E95 (464 x 348) for the same money as the new T530 (320 x 240).

Yes that is correct. This camera range is to fill a current void in FLIR's line-up. Interestingly, they all use a 640x480 detector - should be interested to see what the T800 range brings and whether the lower models can be hacked to full res.
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #597 on: February 23, 2018, 12:00:43 pm »
New updated version of the CAT smartphone which features the FLIR Lepton core. No detailed specs yet, but I suspect this will use the Lepton 3 module.

Looks much nicer, but I suspect poor spec and high price

https://www.catphones.com/en_gb/cat-s61-smartphone

EDIT: More details and pictures here: https://www.engadget.com/2018/02/22/cat-s61-smartphone-bullitt-thermal-camera/#/

£799!!!!
« Last Edit: February 23, 2018, 12:13:15 pm by Chanc3 »
 

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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #598 on: March 02, 2018, 06:36:48 pm »
New updated version of the CAT smartphone which features the FLIR Lepton core. No detailed specs yet, but I suspect this will use the Lepton 3 module.

Looks much nicer, but I suspect poor spec and high price

https://www.catphones.com/en_gb/cat-s61-smartphone

EDIT: More details and pictures here: https://www.engadget.com/2018/02/22/cat-s61-smartphone-bullitt-thermal-camera/#/

£799!!!!

Exact specs on the used FLIR module in the S61 are unknown, but from what I gathered so far the S61 actually seems to use the same thermal sensor as the S60 but with updated software allowing for a wider thermal range and an HD (rather than VGA) overlay of the rear camera image. In other words, no Lepton 3.

Looking at the datasheet of the Lepton, it seems to me that in the S60 it is only used in high gain mode, hence the limited thermal range. In low gain mode, the thermal range is expanded to over 400 degrees C and that would explain how they can get the wider range in the S61 while still using the same thermal sensor.
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Re: New Flir products
« Reply #599 on: March 02, 2018, 06:41:06 pm »
New updated version of the CAT smartphone which features the FLIR Lepton core. No detailed specs yet, but I suspect this will use the Lepton 3 module.

Looks much nicer, but I suspect poor spec and high price

https://www.catphones.com/en_gb/cat-s61-smartphone

EDIT: More details and pictures here: https://www.engadget.com/2018/02/22/cat-s61-smartphone-bullitt-thermal-camera/#/

£799!!!!

Exact specs on the used FLIR module in the S61 are unknown, but from what I gathered so far the S61 actually seems to use the same thermal sensor as the S60 but with updated software allowing for a wider thermal range and an HD (rather than VGA) overlay of the rear camera image. In other words, no Lepton 3.

Looking at the datasheet of the Lepton, it seems to me that in the S60 it is only used in high gain mode, hence the limited thermal range. In low gain mode, the thermal range is expanded to over 400 degrees C and that would explain how they can get the wider range in the S61 while still using the same thermal sensor.
My friend who works at flir confirmed it is just 80x60 :(
 


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