Author Topic: Therm App unlock 25HZ (Read 26674 times)

iampm · « **on:** June 02, 2016, 01:46:45 am »

Good news: 8.7 hz Therm App has already been unlocked to 25HZ by some teams.
Bad news: They charge about 300 dollars for this service.

encryptededdy · « **Reply #1 on:** June 02, 2016, 04:04:28 am »

Wow, nice. I came across some chinese forums discussing this but I wasn't aware it ended up being successful.

Makes sense though that the hardware is identical - the ULIS microbolometer itself doesn't come in separate 8.7 / 25Hz parts, so it must be done in firmware on the ThermApp.

nishul · « **Reply #2 on:** June 02, 2016, 06:04:39 am »

Very interesting! could you provide more information about the 'teams'?

I found this link posted on the 'nachi.org' - http://www.ulis-ir.com/index.php?infrared-detector=pico384p-037. It says the thermal image sensor used in Therm-app camera is capable of doing 50Hz

iampm · « **Reply #3 on:** June 02, 2016, 07:33:37 am »

As far as I know, they did it by tearing down a genuine Therm APP Hz model, did some research and accordingly modified the firmware of 8.7hz model (may requre tearing down, I guess) .

Sorry there are no names for the "teams", they just use Tencent Group and of course no details are revealed since they want to make money from it.

Bill W · « **Reply #4 on:** June 03, 2016, 01:09:15 am »

As Israel aren't in the Wassenaar Arrangement this will be a bit different to the usual export control requirements encountered with TICs.
However still embarrassing for ThermApp to have been cracked if it is as simple as swapping over some code.

Bill

www.fire-tics.co.uk

Motero · « **Reply #5 on:** June 05, 2016, 08:43:09 pm »

This is very interesting, someone has tried?
I do not understand the procedure of unlocked, if I wanted to try it , any advice for me?
Thanks and regards

iampm · « **Reply #6 on:** June 07, 2016, 11:18:04 am »

Quote from: Motero on June 05, 2016, 08:43:09 pm

This is very interesting, someone has tried?
I do not understand the procedure of unlocked, if I wanted to try it , any advice for me?
Thanks and regards

It seems that you need a 25HZ model first.

I find some videos, not sure if you can watch them:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTU5MjgxODYwOA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTU5MjgxNTk2OA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTU5MjgxOTQyNA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2

cnxunuo · « **Reply #7 on:** September 20, 2016, 07:07:20 am »

i have paid 2000 rmb to the team who crack it.

successfully upgraded to 25hz

this is how it works:

they have a genuine 25hz one, read out the EPCS4N fpga config flash,

flash other device with the same S/N code rom.

then, they send me the android folder, so that first time it connect to my phone,
the app dont need to go online to download the factory calibration bin file, and use the calibration file for the device that 25hz rom came from.

========

now i only have a logic analyzer,
i sniff out the epcs4n's traffic (3ch),
but dont know how to encapsulate the raw logic file to flashable altera file.......

maex · « **Reply #8 on:** September 22, 2016, 08:11:54 am »

What does the ThermApp with the old folder contains?

I have read my EPCS4N with an external programmer as M25P40. My serial have I found at 0x70000 as 4 byte hex, after this 0xEF 0xBE 0xAD 0xDE.

0xAD 0xDE = 0xDEAD = dead?

So I can change my serial to something else, only the app cannot find calibration data on the server .

bitera · « **Reply #9 on:** September 23, 2016, 05:32:50 am »

Yes, I can upgrade to 25hz Therm App.
But, this is a fee service.
Other, 3D IR can also be achieved.

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This method not only needs to update the firmware, but also needs to collect data for image correction and provide supporting software, this is the charge service.

In addition, we can provide free optimization of the SDK to facilitate you to write applications to support optimal, fully compatible with the SDK and the official version.

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Davidli · « **Reply #10 on:** December 22, 2016, 08:57:26 am »

Haha?I got you guys. after you update the fresh rate to 25Hz, you may need biger Lens. we provide 33MM 60MM lens for Therm app with lower price.

Davidli · « **Reply #11 on:** December 22, 2016, 09:00:34 am »

Attached 60MM lens picture.

bingo600 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 23, 2016, 10:24:04 am »

Some of the last posts belongs in buy/sell

/Bingo

PrinzDaniel · « **Reply #13 on:** December 23, 2016, 10:26:10 am »

I´m interessted in the ThermApp 25Hz Upgrade.

Can somebody write me a pm who can help me?

Greets Daniel

tomas123 · « **Reply #14 on:** December 23, 2016, 01:57:31 pm »

IMHO it's a copy of the 25Hz firmware

Davidli · « **Reply #15 on:** December 24, 2016, 07:51:34 am »

Quote from: 3roomlab on December 23, 2016, 06:50:54 am

any of them tried hacking the Q1? it be funny if that and the therm app share same firmware.

are you sure that?

Jeroen3 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 28, 2016, 01:11:19 pm »

Quote from: maex on September 22, 2016, 08:11:54 am

I have read my EPCS4N with an external programmer as M25P40. My serial have I found at 0x70000 as 4 byte hex, after this 0xEF 0xBE 0xAD 0xDE.

0xDEADBEEF in little endian. Typical joke value. Is this what they change?

Bruno28 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 07, 2017, 11:34:02 am »

Has anyone found a way to upgrade for free? If someone has done this and paid, I'm sure they can share the folder with us?

bowhunter-57 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 07, 2017, 12:46:43 pm »

Very interesting post,I'd be up for an upgrade on my 8.7 to 25HZ.

jeffreythe00 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 09, 2017, 12:59:26 am »

^would also be interested and may even chip in a few bucks

Davidli · « **Reply #20 on:** March 13, 2017, 09:39:44 am »

Lens for Therm app with lower price.

Bruno28 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 13, 2017, 09:42:59 am »

Quote from: Davidli on March 13, 2017, 09:39:44 am

Lens for Therm app with lower price.

What are the prices?

Davidli · « **Reply #22 on:** March 13, 2017, 10:11:52 am »

what size do you need?

frenky · « **Reply #23 on:** March 13, 2017, 01:14:43 pm »

All of them.

bowhunter-57 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 13, 2017, 04:31:55 pm »

Post a price on all of them,thanks


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