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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #50 on: August 24, 2016, 07:10:04 am »
If you've got an FTDI-based USB adapter you can invert polarity in software.
 

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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #51 on: August 24, 2016, 06:31:41 pm »
@Kilrah,

Thanks for the suggestion but it was just as easy to fit a 74HC04 in the end and I like the little CP2102 PCB that provides 5V and 3V3.

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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #52 on: August 24, 2016, 06:44:17 pm »
I installed a 74HC04 hex inverter in my Tau test jig to invert the UART TX and RX lines. Hooked it up to the laptop, ran the FLIR Tau GUI software and ...... my laptop immediately connected to the TAU. Success  :D

Scrolling through the Tau GUI menus provided a full run down of the cameras configuration. The FFC shutter was set to external which puzzles me a bit. The Tau normally controls its own FFC needs but being installed with the optional modules that attach to its rear in the HS-324 could mean that the micro in those add on modules controls FFC events.

I carried out a camera Reset and manual FFC and was rewarded with a nice clean grey screen as you should get when no microbolometer is fitted. I will refit the microbolometer later but expect the camera to work fine now.

I attach pictures of the modified test jig and screen grabs of the GUI pages for informational to other Tau owners.

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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #53 on: August 24, 2016, 06:46:27 pm »
GUI screen grabs
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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #54 on: August 24, 2016, 06:48:44 pm »
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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #55 on: August 24, 2016, 06:50:06 pm »
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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #56 on: August 24, 2016, 06:51:13 pm »
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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #57 on: August 24, 2016, 06:53:33 pm »
After activating the test chart that is within the Tau.
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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #58 on: August 24, 2016, 06:56:03 pm »
The correct blank grey screen after a camera reset and manual FFC
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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #59 on: August 24, 2016, 07:53:22 pm »
Tau microbolometer reunited with the main PCB.

Tested and all working well.

The FLIR Tau GUI controls the camera without difficulty and all modes and options were tested. no faults found. the little Tau is working perfectly  :)
The GUI provides acess to all manner of modes that are not used in the HS324 and it is good to see that all except 'snapshot' mode are enabled and functional. X2 and X4 zoom works and even provides an electronic pan tilt mode when in Zoom mode.

Very happy about this. BUT, and it is a BIG but, is the add on module that normally commands the Tau working correctly ? There is a known issue with the early Tau module crashing. I need to get it running as a complete system and upload the later fixed firmware version to the controller module. FLIR released this as a fix for the H series cameras and it requires the add on controller and the SD card to install it. FLIR have not made Tau firmware available for direct upload via the cameras RS232 port.

At this point in time, the working Tau camera alone is worth to me what I paid for the HS324  :D

I just hope i can get the whole system up and running. A job for tomorrow me thinks.

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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #60 on: August 24, 2016, 07:56:22 pm »
Test jig and re-assembled Tau320 ready for assembly and testing
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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #61 on: August 24, 2016, 07:58:25 pm »
Pictures from the testing phase
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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #62 on: August 24, 2016, 07:59:43 pm »
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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #63 on: August 24, 2016, 08:01:18 pm »
X2 and X4 Zoom modes that include interpolation algorithms.
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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #64 on: August 24, 2016, 08:02:42 pm »
Radiometric mode enabled.

Spot Temp and Temp range screen annotation switched on
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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #65 on: August 26, 2016, 11:38:21 pm »
OK some comment on the TAU core crash that is detailed in this thread.

The core had crashed and locked up for reasons unknown. It would not activate its FFC shutter at boot and it was not producing a video image. It was effectively in a HALT condition.

Through fault exploration of the TAU circuit I was able to be confident that all supply rails and chips on the PCB were in a state where they should be working. This just left a firmware corruption or other similar software related cause for the cameras failure to produce an image. The firmware is not easily accessible on the TAU but if the firmware is intact and just a camera reset is needed, there is hope. I got some help with resetting the camera to a point that it would talk over its RS232 port. Once I was able to talk to the camera via its GUI, I was able to see that the FFC shutter was set to"External". That is to say, a external controller was telling the TAU when to generate an FFC event. Remember that this HS324 can record video so I an guessing that the external ARM processor that drives the TAU controls the FFC event so that it can stop the FFC whilst in video recording mode.

Why did the camera crash ? At first I blamed a known problem with early firmware but having re-assembled the HS324 to the point that i could test the complete system, I now believe there is another issue at work here.

I have set the TAU to internal auto FFC as a way of monitoring its boot sequence, and making it independent of the rest of the HS324. The HS324 was switched on and the normal boot screen of a colour bar chart appeared. The TAU booted and carried out the normal two FFC cycles as it should when set to AUTO FFC. All was looking promising. The HS324 has three power modes, OFF, Standby and ON. From Standby to ON takes but a second or two for an image to appear. From OFF to ON takes 90 seconds. I waited the 90 seconds and heard some odd behaviour from the TAU. It was making a varying whine and the FFC shutter sequence was repeating. I striped the chassis off of the TAU and the PCB's that attach to its rear so that voltage checks could be carried out. I could immediately see that the TAU was in a ON/RESET loop as the 3V3 rail monitor RESET LED and FPGA boot LED were blinking alternately. No wonder the TAU had crashed if it was in a ON/RESET loop for very long. Such is a recipe for disaster.

With the TAU power input rail now accessible I could see that the 5V rail was all over the place with very poor stability and dropping as low as 3V. The poor 3V3 power rail monitor IC had no choice but to reset the camera every time the supply dipped below the 3V3 buck converters minimum operating voltage. It is the buck converters that are producing the noise as they try to maintain their power rails. The sound is barely perceptible unless you place your ear right next to the PCB.

It is now pretty obvious that the poor TAU was a victim of a highly unstable 5V supply rail. I suspect that same unstable supply rail is causing similar issues for the ARM chip that controls the TAU. Hence no boot completion. Its supply monitor will also be having a minor fit if the supply keeps dropping. I shall investigate the cause of this irregular supply rail but at least I have something to chase down and a possible, ney likely, cause of the TAU crash.

Sadly I did not previously monitor the supply rails on the HS324 and the add on modules that attach to the rear of the TAU as my priority was to get the TAU functioning again. Knowing that the supply rail to the TAU was compromised would have helped explain the crash and I would not have searched so hard for a hardware fault in it that was not present. You live and learn eh  :)  I did learn a lot about the TAU hardware in the process though and I enjoyed exploring it so no worries really. The camera did need to be recovered from its crashed state anyway.

The next steps will be to check the power main power supply rail into the cameras 'Power & Video PCB' and trace its through the various Boost/Buck converters that are present in the modules. The fault could be a component failure that is leading to an overload of the 5V supply rail.

I did a quick check across the 4V8 Ni-Mh pack and was surprised to see it alternating between 4V94 and 3V6. Something nasty is going on. The rail cycles in sync with the TAU trying to Boot and I know the TAU current draw is correct. Something may be causing an over current event soon after camera power is applied. It is just a case of tracking down the guilty component  :) It could, of course be a poor connection in the sealed battery bay so that will be checked fist by replacing it with a current limited  bench power supply.

All good fun.

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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #66 on: August 28, 2016, 01:02:34 am »
As the TAU core is now fully functional again, I will end my commentary here as this is a thread dedicated to the TAU core and not the FLIR HS324.

I have another live thread covering the HS324 so will post any repair information on the HS324 chassis there.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-hs324-commander-thermal-camera-teardown-by-fraser/

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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #67 on: August 29, 2016, 10:50:58 am »
Thrilled you managed to get it working! and loved the process you took. The cores are very nice little IR cameras, although they are not very user friendly unless you have a special board connected to save the images etc. We ended up using a 3rd party control board to give us full radiometric images and video, for when we mount it on our UAVs.
 

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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #68 on: August 29, 2016, 01:04:29 pm »
Hi Chanc3

Yes I have seen those UAV add-on modules. Very nice :)

The Tau appears to be a pretty versatile little core that receives good support in the UAV community.

I am very pleased to have brought the little Tau back to life. If I were to have the time again, I would do things a little differently though.  I was too eager to dive into the Tau on this occasion. The benefits of hind sight eh :)

I did learn quite a lot about the Tau architecture and power supplies though.

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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #69 on: August 08, 2017, 07:49:18 pm »
Wow! There is one thing that confusing me. I don't see any high-speed ADC on the pcbs and it means, I guess, that the FLIR bolometer sensor has a digital video output?  ???
 

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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #70 on: August 08, 2017, 10:08:52 pm »
Modern Microbolometers have moved to integrated ADC's on the ROIC

Take a look at the ULIS web site and products for a view of current technology. The microbolometers 'on board' ROIC is getting 'smarter' and more heavily integrated with every generation.

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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #71 on: November 18, 2018, 02:57:32 pm »
Hi do you have this bord in spare?   
 

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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #72 on: November 18, 2018, 03:44:04 pm »
Hi,

Sadly I do not have a spare board. The TAU interface board belongs in my FLIR MS224 scope and will eventually return to it when needed.

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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #73 on: November 18, 2018, 06:58:20 pm »
Modern Microbolometers have moved to integrated ADC's on the ROIC

Take a look at the ULIS web site and products for a view of current technology. The microbolometers 'on board' ROIC is getting 'smarter' and more heavily integrated with every generation.

Fraser

Do you foresee a time when the ROIC will include things like a NUC stage followed by whatever output you want (digital video, data stream, LCD drive, PAL...)? It's a fair degree of integration beyond the present state of the art (as far as I know...) but, I suppose, possible.
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Re: Thermal Camera Teardown - The FLIR TAU 320 by Fraser
« Reply #74 on: November 18, 2018, 07:56:22 pm »
The latest ULIS offerings integrate many functions into the ROIC But they are not a 'camera on a chip' solution yet. The Lepton core is getting closer to what you describe. There are issues with a thermal camera on a chip as any form of true processing power on the imaging array die would generate heat. Die self heating is the enemy of thermal FPA's. Any design that placed any serious processing power on the imaging die would need to find a way to thermally isolate the heat sensitive structures from the heat sources. This would need to cope with conducted, converted and radiated heat energy. I see it more likely that we will see sandwhich designs that keep the thermally sensitive components physically separated from the heat producing processing elements by a thermal break. Active temperature stabilisation has been around a long time and these can help keep the die at a reasonable temperature. The downside of Peltier stabilisation is current consumption and bulk as a heatsinks is needed to dissipate the heat produced.

The Raytheon Thermal Eye 2000AS and its descendants are the sort of topology I see as the most versatile. The sensitive imaging microbolometer sits on the back of the lens module and links to the heat producing processing engine via a ribbon cable. Good thermal isolation is relatively easy to achieve in such a design.

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