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| djsb:
I'm on 21.4.1 and I can use release 10 for perpetuity. I can do designs in Altium and import them into Kicad. I'm happy with using Kicad forever from now on. If Altium comes begging in the next few years they can forget it. They've had enough money off me as it is already. |
| hwasti:
--- Quote from: djsb on December 15, 2024, 11:19:43 pm ---I'm on 21.4.1 and I can use release 10 for perpetuity. --- End quote --- Not for perpetuity. Only for as long as you can have a version of Windows that allows that version of AD to run. Microsoft constantly "improves" the internals of Windows, which breaks old software and it seems to be happening more frequently in recent years. To use AD10 or AD21 in perpetuity, you will have to be able to run discontinued versions of Windows, which may not install on newer hardware and/or may require you to run offline due to vulnerabilities. When will things break? I do not know, but unless Microsoft has a major change in direction, it will happen sooner rather than later. Good luck. KiCAD seems like a better option. But I am holding out for a few more years with my AD24. I am hoping they will add more features and move more towards an Altium like UI. Maybe it is just wishful thinking. |
| aries1470:
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on December 12, 2024, 11:52:50 am --- --- End quote --- I bought Circuit Studio because I didn't need full blown Altium Designer. [/quote] Hi 2N3055, I wanted to ask for your experience with it, since on their website it is on "special" at $495, $200 off, but just entered my details with a promo they have going for 40% off, but I think that that is for Altium, but no harm in asking when they contact me, right? My question is, and to anyone else too for that matter, that I am still using the free version of Eagle and it still needs to dial home once in a while, to verify its licence once every 90 days or so. I have been using it since the early naughties, and would like to know, since it can import easily Eagle files, is it worth purchasing, and I do not care about "cloud" as I use it only a few times in a month every quarter or so, so a total of maybe 1 month in a whole year. I need only schematic, board, bom is an extra. I use "SamacSys" (Component Search Engine) for parts that I do not have and it works great and also another website - SnapEda - and they both output Altium lib's too. TIA everyone. |
| PlainName:
I used CircuitStudio to design a resonably sophisticated product. I'd otherwise have done it in Proteus so it was a bit of a learning experience too. After having done it, though, I wouldn't go back for new projects. It has the flavour of adult Altium but the GUI is quite different. Nevertheless, if you're au fait with CS then AD is just a matter of learning menus and toolbars rather than the ribbon that was once the rage. Oh, and the extra features. The guts of it are there, though, and things like design rules are essentially the same. If you want to get into the Altium style and have little money then CS might be the way to do it legally. But bear in mind it is a dead product and any bug you find won't be fixed. It may or may not work on future OS upgrades (though I guess that's the same with Eagle, now). It's also artificially limited by slowing down when the project gets big enough for them to think you should be using AD. Don't know what that limit is (it's apparently not fixed but a gradual thing) and I don't think I've hit it yet. I'd suggest you get a trial of it if you can, and realistically anything different to what you've been using will seem terrible UI-wise. But I've used lots worse than this one, and few better. FWIW I just fired up my copy I last used 5 years ago, and was pleasantly surprised that it Just Worked. Opened an old project and it felt OK - I could use this to do stuff, I reckon. But won't because I ugpraded to AD when it was cheap :) |
| Smokey:
--- Quote from: hwasti on December 16, 2024, 02:43:46 am --- --- Quote from: djsb on December 15, 2024, 11:19:43 pm ---I'm on 21.4.1 and I can use release 10 for perpetuity. --- End quote --- Not for perpetuity. Only for as long as you can have a version of Windows that allows that version of AD to run. Microsoft constantly "improves" the internals of Windows, which breaks old software and it seems to be happening more frequently in recent years. To use AD10 or AD21 in perpetuity, you will have to be able to run discontinued versions of Windows, which may not install on newer hardware and/or may require you to run offline due to vulnerabilities. When will things break? I do not know, but unless Microsoft has a major change in direction, it will happen sooner rather than later. ... --- End quote --- Nothing a virtual machine can't fix :) |
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