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Electronics => PCB/EDA/CAD => Altium Designer => Topic started by: snoopy on October 01, 2024, 09:03:39 am

Title: Copy Room format does not copy designator format correctly
Post by: snoopy on October 01, 2024, 09:03:39 am
I never noticed this before but I realised just copying formatting of designators from one room to another does not quite get it right !

As you can see from the before and after the room copy, the copy of the designators have shifted up and off-grid !! I tried it on an earlier version of Altium and got exactly the same result so the bug has been there for quite a while :(

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Title: Re: Copy Room format does not copy designator format correctly
Post by: thm_w on October 01, 2024, 08:38:52 pm
Its not shifted up, its center aligned or right aligned and the text became longer so takes up more space, no?
Title: Re: Copy Room format does not copy designator format correctly
Post by: T3sl4co1l on October 01, 2024, 09:33:37 pm
Calling it a bug is a tall order. :)

You didn't even mention what version(s) were tried -- how can it possibly be a bug if, the thing it's a bug of, isn't defined?

We have no idea what the properties and state of all the objects are (particularly the Text's).  Most likely the behavior is intended.  But there's not much to go on, here.

It's far more likely, you didn't realize some setting changed, or, what effect it would have when moving components in various ways (namely by channel update).

So, not sure what your aim is?  If asking for help, it's incomplete; if making an observation, it lacks details that might help others.  If you came here to vent -- that's fine, encouraged even (well, to a very minor degree, I mean no one particularly likes venting for the sake of it, but dumping on Altium from time to time is fair enough-- >:D ), but, just be precise and say what you mean, be honest.  With yourself, most of all -- lashing out and saying something is a bug as your first conclusion, is a bad look: it's as if you could never make a mistake, so clearly, it must be the software not anticipating your every intent.  It's okay to be wrong once in a while; take a step back, check your assumptions, poke around and investigate, find out what's really going on.  It can be very difficult under circumstances, I know; stress from, whatever, work, relationships, life in general, take your pick, shuts down the curious part of the mind oh so rapidly.

Or, just a friendly reminder, get up and stretch, drink some water, relax, take a break, whatever. Especially helpful around software as complex as Altium. :)

Tim
Title: Re: Copy Room format does not copy designator format correctly
Post by: snoopy on October 02, 2024, 09:33:37 am
Calling it a bug is a tall order. :)

You didn't even mention what version(s) were tried -- how can it possibly be a bug if, the thing it's a bug of, isn't defined?

We have no idea what the properties and state of all the objects are (particularly the Text's).  Most likely the behavior is intended.  But there's not much to go on, here.

It's far more likely, you didn't realize some setting changed, or, what effect it would have when moving components in various ways (namely by channel update).

So, not sure what your aim is?  If asking for help, it's incomplete; if making an observation, it lacks details that might help others.  If you came here to vent -- that's fine, encouraged even (well, to a very minor degree, I mean no one particularly likes venting for the sake of it, but dumping on Altium from time to time is fair enough-- >:D ), but, just be precise and say what you mean, be honest.  With yourself, most of all -- lashing out and saying something is a bug as your first conclusion, is a bad look: it's as if you could never make a mistake, so clearly, it must be the software not anticipating your every intent.  It's okay to be wrong once in a while; take a step back, check your assumptions, poke around and investigate, find out what's really going on.  It can be very difficult under circumstances, I know; stress from, whatever, work, relationships, life in general, take your pick, shuts down the curious part of the mind oh so rapidly.

Or, just a friendly reminder, get up and stretch, drink some water, relax, take a break, whatever. Especially helpful around software as complex as Altium. :)

Tim

I am using version 24. All I want it to do is to mirror the formatting to other identical channels. Not a big ask but it seems to move the designators off grid. Tried many different combinations and tested it on earlier version 19 but identical results. Loaded up the example audio mixer project and sure enough it is doing the same thing. Perhaps something in my registry settings etc.

I am not too phased about it as I just have to spend time editing the other channels but perhaps it may be a bug that people have overlooked because it is only a small amount of discrepancy and most likely not noticable in most cases.

cheers


Title: Re: Copy Room format does not copy designator format correctly
Post by: thm_w on October 02, 2024, 08:34:44 pm
So you've verified the designators are left aligned?
Title: Re: Copy Room format does not copy designator format correctly
Post by: snoopy on October 03, 2024, 04:10:26 am
So you've verified the designators are left aligned?

When I assign two designators identical alignment ie left-bottom aligned it still moves the copied one off grid.

But I can also get it to do it on the mixer project by rotating one of the designators 90 degrees relative to the component. As you can see there is a slight difference in the text y-location from the original room to the copied room. You can try it yourself. See if you get the same result ?

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Just moving the designator around without any rotation doesn't seem to be a problem.

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